Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?
I don't see entitlement here; I see frustration.
If one stops seeing losing one's virginity as an impending need, and starts emphasizing things like studying, making friends, and enjoying life in nonsexual ways, I believe the path to losing one's virginity would probably be smoother.
I went through a desperate phase that lasted quite a while. When I stopped being desperate, I began to obtain tangible results.
MissKong wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
Those who lost their virginity early may have been virgins once, but they definitely don't know what it's like to be still a virgin many years later, and not by choice.
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
No, it doesn't. "Not by choice" means it's not due to a choice to remain a virgin you made, because you didn't have a choice. But I'm sure you're well aware of this. Whatever attitude you gratuitously decide to ascribe to me to make me look bad is entirely your business and has nothing to do with what I actually said.
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MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
kraftiekortie wrote:
I was a virgin once. I remember the experience.
Don't tell me to shut up
I just think too much emphasis is placed on it. I placed too much emphasis on it when I was a virgin. I thought the very act of lovin' would solve all my problems.
Nope...They still remained!! ! !
Don't tell me to shut up
I just think too much emphasis is placed on it. I placed too much emphasis on it when I was a virgin. I thought the very act of lovin' would solve all my problems.
Nope...They still remained!! ! !
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I take it most non-virgins, were virgins at some point and can gauge weather it seemed people cared or not about it when they were. Hence part of why it shouldn't matter, everyone's a virgin at some point. Also even if people do care they only way they know is if you bloody tell them anyways....its not like they can take one look and be like 'VIRGIN!' and then shun you because oh god you never had sex before.
At best it seems most people IRL might see it a bit strange if someone is still a virgin past their early 20s...but I don't think its the stamp of banishment from any form of socialization some of you seem to think it is. And cannot speak for all females but I have never had 'is he a virgin or not' as one of the things I consider before wanting to be in a relationship.
At best it seems most people IRL might see it a bit strange if someone is still a virgin past their early 20s...but I don't think its the stamp of banishment from any form of socialization some of you seem to think it is. And cannot speak for all females but I have never had 'is he a virgin or not' as one of the things I consider before wanting to be in a relationship.
As other have explained it's not quite as you say, and it's more about being a late virgin than being a virgin. You can say that it's nothing etc etc but the reality of facts is that people can also dump you for being a late virgin.
This been said I am sorry for telling you to shut up kraftie and I apologize for my overreaction.
Yigeren wrote:
Because men care about having sex more than women do.
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-Top 10 Sex Myths-
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Idealist wrote:
That's right! Women want sex too. But women are MUCH pickier about who they sleep with. And this seems to confuse a lot of guys into thinking that women don't want sex as much as they do.
That also means a woman could believe she is much less interested in sex than she really is if she never sees a man who is up to snuff
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AR1500 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
Jamesy wrote:
Women have it easier in most walks of life than men today. It's easy for feminists to forget how men are unfairly stigmatised these days.
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Well, that was a mess and a half.
These bits struck me:
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Expected to chase and make the first move when it comes to the dating world
The corollary being that, if you're a woman, it is Not The Done Thing to chase the man you desire. So, you can want someone but do nothing about it except flaunt and flatter as best you can. On a bad day, the man you're after ignores your efforts (or is oblivious to them), and everyone else thinks you a trampy flirt. Pretty crushing.
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Shallow girls not giving you the time of the day just because your under 6ft
Whyever would you want shallow girls to give you the time of day?
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If your a 40 year old man trying to pick up younger women people think your a perv
Same the other way around.
AR1500 wrote:
That's right! Women want sex too.
As it is about a great deal of things, society is very confused about women and sex. This:
http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relatio ... h-more-men
is a really interesting read.
The common worry, still, is a woman's sexuality-as-weapon. She's making you want her (taking away control). She's leading you on only to deny you, for kicks. She's going to steal your sperm and raise your child alone. She's going to get pregnant to force you into marriage. She can get laid any time she wants - you can't. She's making you 'involuntarily celibate'. She slept her way to the top. And so on.
It's no wonder it's near impossible to have clear thinking on the matter.
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Peacesells wrote:
AR1500 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Can you please explain to me how a guy "being a virgin not by choice" doesn't imply that that guy feels entitled to sex?
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
MissKong wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
AR1500 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Can you please explain to me how a guy "being a virgin not by choice" doesn't imply that that guy feels entitled to sex?
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
Lemme explain something to you and simplify things:
If you CHOOSE to ask someone out, they can CHOOSE to say "No" for Any.Reason. They. See. Fit!
In fact, they don't owe you an explanation and they sure as bloody f*cking hell don't have to justify it. Some women might say no because you're not tall enough. Dating and Sex is an area of life where people are going to judge you on things you don't have any control over. That's the ugly reality of many relationships: You often get LESS out of them than you put into them.
When I was a teenager I was constantly asking girls out in HS and getting rejected again, and again, and again, and uh-gain......
....And this continued into college. I got rejected 9 TIMES(same # of times Ferris Bueller skipped school) before I finally met my first gf.
Social stuff, be if friendship or dating, is NOT a meritocracy. It makes no difference how many times you and some others post this "think positive" self-help snakeoil BS. People hear just aren't buying it.
Entitlement means that you believe that other people are *obligated* to give you something. It isn't the same thing as simply wanting something. So this whole "you're not entitled to sex blah blah blah" is just another way of saying "know you're place and stay in it, peasant".
MissKong wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
AR1500 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Maybe some feminists want equality but some other feminists are crazy sexists who hate men. It really annoys me that you keep pretending that these feminists are a fairy tale, we even have some here other than you.
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Can you please explain to me how a guy "being a virgin not by choice" doesn't imply that that guy feels entitled to sex?
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
How long will you keep abusing our patience Katy? For how long will this madness of yours still mock us? To what extent will your unbrindled audacity carry itself?
I thought that English was your first language, don't you understand it? I thought that you were a college-educated women, has such level of instruction sunk so low?
When a guy is not virgin by choice it means by definition that a guy would like to have sex but doesn't find a mate, it by no means implies that he thinks that women are not giving him something he is entitled to. You are attributing to this defitnition something that has nothing to do with it and you are using it to put down people. Are you evil or just incredibly stupid?
Please do us all a favour and go see a good shrink instead of pestering us with your insanity.
Last edited by Peacesells on 01 Jan 2016, 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Idealist wrote:
I knew #3 was TRUE!! (From work experience - at the hospital)
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MissKong wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
AR1500 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
MissKong wrote:
That implies you're somehow entitled to sex, the "not by choice" business. You're not. Nobody is.
This implies that you are crazy and need to see a good shrink.
It's Katy-Kay back at it Uh-Gain......
Don't even reply that just encourages *her*.
She usually never responds to me though. And I am not sure that she knows she is wrong and is just trolling, some feminists really think that way.
What the HELL does feminism (which is, for the billionth time, about equality) have to do with some girls wanting nothing to do with some guys?
Can you please explain to me how a guy "being a virgin not by choice" doesn't imply that that guy feels entitled to sex?
Sly and Spiderpig freely admit that they don't talk to to girls, do not ask girls out and haven't in YEARS... because they got rejected by some girls years ago.
They aren't trying. They're alone because they don't try.
Hell, Sly insisted that a new, pretty female coworker who said hi to him and chatted with him occasionally did so with some sort of malicious intent because she had a boyfriend. Because making idle chit-chat is evil? Because a cute, outgoing, chatty girl made a purely friendly overture is nefarious?
Sly is a tall, okay looking, college-educated white guy with an inferiority complex. He barely leaves his room, reacts badly when females try to engage him in conversation and b*****s no girls ever want him. (How would girls find him or know he exists? There are no girls in his sad little room.
Spiderpig really, truly (and it goes without saying incorrectly) believes that merely talking to a woman who isn't interested in him, in a public place, in broad daylight will get him beat up or a restraining order filed against him. He talks to no girls ever. Hasn't asked a girl out in years!
Spidey, Sly aren't trying. They are single virgins by CHOICE. Because CHOOSING not to TRY to date is a choice. They're CHOOSING to remain virgins and blaming it on the women of the world!
+1
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You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.
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