18 Mar 2013, 8:32 am
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
She's a perfectly normal woman of above-average attractiveness, evidently there to look sexy
But the way she can be trashed as looking like a man should show people just how ruthless society is now as regards how a woman 'should' look - nothing less than perfection of a very specific kind is good enough
What of the perfection of the men doing the judging though? - that should be focused on as well in my opinion
Are they perfect looking?
No they are not
Do we get to pick their looks apart and make fun of their lack of xyz characteristics of perfection?
Funnily enough it rarely happens
Why is that?
There's a glaring inconsistency that is very apparent to me in how male and female appearances are discussed
Men can look how they like but woe betide the woman who doesn't look perfect
18 Mar 2013, 8:32 am
uwmonkdm wrote:
Here's a woman who looks feminine (and without makeup this time since people keep calling me out on it)
she has a square jawline that could appear masculine to some people (try googling it and you'll see that many people think along similar lines). i think maybe these things are just opinion for the most part. perhaps some people think that whoever they find attractive is feminine-looking and whoever they find unattractive is masculine-looking.
Last edited by hyperlexian on 18 Mar 2013, 8:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
18 Mar 2013, 8:34 am
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
AH ok. Definitely a woman then. Gosh where does Pitbull find these women? Clubs? Adult films? Streets of Miami?
18 Mar 2013, 8:34 am
luvsterriers wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
She seems poised to judo-flip him.
But, in terms of what men want: yes, we do very much enjoy it when a woman grinds her butt against our sausages.
But, in terms of what men want: yes, we do very much enjoy it when a woman grinds her butt against our sausages.
judo-flip?
She has her arm around his neck, and her butt positioned to serve as a fulcrum. One quick snap forward and over he goes.
Judo doesn't seem so popular any more--most of the kids are doing karate these days.
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18 Mar 2013, 8:39 am
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
If THAT considered unfeminine then hell...more than half of women would be so.
I think she would easily be seen as hot by plenty of men, not unfeminine at all.
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18 Mar 2013, 8:39 am
luvsterriers wrote:
AH ok. Definitely a woman then. Gosh where does Pitbull find these women? Clubs? Adult films? Streets of Miami?
casting agencies usually just do a general callout, or they look for people with a certain look if they have the budget to be picky. i've been in 2 music videos (one was rock, one was techno) but the budget was small so they were not that choosy. Pitbull's manager would have used a bigger production company that could have contacted agencies to seek out the best looking people who could dance properly and such.
18 Mar 2013, 8:41 am
18 Mar 2013, 8:41 am
luvsterriers wrote:
That girl you posted without makeup is she a celebrity? She looks pretty. Some women don't have to cake on the makeup to impress a guy! I have a friend who is full Korean and she doesn't wear any makeup and she has a boyfriend. Most of my female cousins on mom's side don't wear makeup or they put very little. They are still pretty. About Asians are men really that crazy over full and half Asian women, particularly Korean?? I'm probably then your average Korean and a little heavier. Most Korean women are like a Size 0 or 2. Way too thin I think. I'm a 6/8.
Yes it's Olivia Wilde.
(below is only my opinion - don't get started with nit picking it)
Men like asian women because they're known to age very well, they're more traditional, they value family and they're usually quite petite.. and it might be one of those "exotic" attractions. Personally I've always been around a lot of asian people so I never thought it was that foreign, but to the middle class white man in America I can see it being that way..
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anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
Maybe it's because she's taller than Pitbull
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18 Mar 2013, 8:41 am
luvsterriers wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
AH ok. Definitely a woman then. Gosh where does Pitbull find these women? Clubs? Adult films? Streets of Miami?
Or hardcore fans like you willing to get half naked just to be in his music clip
(Pun... INTENDED! 
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18 Mar 2013, 8:42 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
If THAT considered unfeminine then hell...more than of half of women would be so.
I think she would easily be seen as hot by plenty of men, not unfeminine at all.
Probably so but the other opinion is very common ie a woman not looking 'feminine enough' or 'like a man'
I've had it enough myself so perhaps I should take some comfort that even women in music videos who are meant to be looking sexy get it as well!
Can't people see how insidious this is - we will get to the stage where no one is feminine or masculine enough as the boundaries will be impossibly narrow.
I think the porn industry and media obsession with celebrity and appearance have caused this and it's only going to get worse
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18 Mar 2013, 8:43 am
No way will I be topless or wear tight clothing to be in any music video. I'm too shy. 
18 Mar 2013, 8:44 am
luvsterriers wrote:
AH ok. Definitely a woman then. Gosh where does Pitbull find these women? Clubs? Adult films? Streets of Miami?
It's a video. It's all fake. The people in charge of making the video find them.
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18 Mar 2013, 8:51 am
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
some guys like women who look less feminine. like for some reason apparently there is apparently a general cultural preference in Greece for women with smaller breasts, more developed arms, broader shoulders, and a more pronounced "v" shape.
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
anyway, she doesn't look particularly masculine to me, though it's a matter of opinion really.
she is in this video, towards the end.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI[/youtube]
If THAT considered unfeminine then hell...more than of half of women would be so.
I think she would easily be seen as hot by plenty of men, not unfeminine at all.
Probably so but the other opinion is very common ie a woman not looking 'feminine enough' or 'like a man'
I've had it enough myself so perhaps I should take some comfort that even women in music videos who are meant to be looking sexy get it as well!
Can't people see how insidious this is - we will get to the stage where no one is feminine or masculine enough as the boundaries will be impossibly narrow.
I think the porn industry and media obsession with celebrity and appearance have caused this and it's only going to get worse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rima_Fakih
I saw a lot of 'she looks like a man' (by Americans) about Rima Fakih due to her "hard features".
18 Mar 2013, 8:52 am
18 Mar 2013, 8:55 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rima_Fakih
I saw a lot of 'she looks like a man' (by Americans) about Rima Fakih due to her "hard features".
It's 2013, are we still taking the opinion of the American majority seriously?
I think she's pretty and feminine, and I'm usually not into indian girls.
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18 Mar 2013, 8:58 am
