The Male beauty standards: Harder to get?

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06 Aug 2009, 7:54 am

I also think your criteria is too narrow (but I can see where you get the stereotype, it was/is everywhere (at least in the US). Since you can't change the way your built, I would say this (at least from my own experience) CLEAN guys are more appealing! Seriously, make sure you smell good, as in do more than bathe & don't use AX (or however its spelled). Sorry, my HS (where I just graduated from) had a large pop. or terribly smelly (in a disgusting manner) or guys so I've developed a paranoia in this area. I would hope the emotional connection (only part I care about b/c I think I'm a demisexual) would be the most important part of a relationship. Some or many girls may prefer guys who either remind them of their fathers/ other male relatives or are the opposite depending on the scenario. Ex. Even If their is someone out their for me they would have to be my father's any creep like hims' opposite b/c our relationship (when we had one when I was little) was bad. Plus, some girls are not into the typical macho guy. I'm definitely not. I'd rather be alone forever, period.


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06 Aug 2009, 7:58 am

I do things to turn off guys too. Acting weird + saying I'm asexual works wonders! Could turning off NT girls be easy b/c many of them are superficial & narrow minded (asking as an autie girl out of curiosity). Is their a "How to get NT's to leave you alone thread"? (I want tips b4 I go to college to prevent past HS escapades)


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06 Aug 2009, 8:32 am

What we percieve as physical attractiveness is simply a first-glance at breeding potential. It's part of our nature as animals. Dogs sniff each other's butts to establish health, humans look at each other. Why would you not want healthy offspring? Both men and women tend to be physicaly attracted to people who can make up for thier flaws. A shy girl sweet girl may fall in love with a criminal because he's presenting genetic bravery. A short woman may fall in love with tall guy.

1. Size matters. Women don't want a guy shorter than they are (unless they are extreemly muscular), men don't want a woman heavier than they are. Bottom line, if your a guy, get in the gym. If your a girl, stay away from the cake.

2. Shape matters. The most attractive female shape has a 70% difference between thier hips, bust, and waist. Regardless of wieght or culture. Presumable this is natures way of saying-produces healthy offspring. For men it's more complicated, but a large chest/arm-to-waist ratio is important. Women are just as physicaly shallow as men.

3. A guy with skinny arms and a big gut is not attractive-because it says he's physicaly lazy and not a good mating partner. A guy with a big gut and a bigger arms is still attractive in a rugged way. A woman who is over wieght but has big breasts is also considered good breading stock. Ripped muscles attractive but not neccassary.

4. Over doing it- Both men and women can over do it and actually turn off people for a long term relationship. Bodybuilding men scare most women, because they are so obsessed with thier physique. Women with large amounts of plastic surgery or over manucured nails and hair are equally frightening. These people are more likely to be in relationships because there partner views them as a trophy and is trying to up thier social status.

5. Social power (fasion sense, money, rank, law enforcement, fame, talent, sense of humor) are a huge percentage of our genetic display of attractiveness. That's the reason men are usualy introduced by thier job. Teenage girls, unfortunatly, are usualy attracted to the teenage boys who are most likly to sire strong children but least likely to take care of them-rebels, gangbangers, jocks, and musicians, and trouble makers. It's simple biology.



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06 Aug 2009, 6:29 pm

An review of a commute shows that most men turn into bald, fat guys that perspire too much and dont know how to trim nose and ear hair. Thankfully I shave my head, my goatee is an 1/8 of an inch and nothing out of place. what I dont understand is where did the 'jock' body go? I lift weight and extreme rowing type exercises. , true I have a gut but it is bought and paid for and I can still carry the frig up the stairs by myself. Do 'we' (royal we) revert to the same transparent crap that every one else does.

I consider myself ME. a middle aged active bald man with big hands and blue eyes and a bit odd. well maybe more than a bit. if its a bad day.



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07 Aug 2009, 11:38 am

In other words, a guy who's capable of taking care of himself.



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07 Aug 2009, 11:15 pm

as i come o think about it, my views of men and women arent too narrow and they are exactly true. men want se. women want resources. simple as that. and im not going to change my opinion. there are no men who dream of their wedding day, or talk about a girls personality or how much money she has in the bank. I had a 38 year old teacher who was a guy and married and he still talked about sex and boobs, and he favored pretty girls even though most were snobby. Men dont care about personality as long as the girl isnt mean. men want sex, women want money. done. thats the truth. im not taking about girls. girls and women are two different things. men want sex from the time they are born till they die and thats all they want. girls like guys for how popular or cute they are, women want men for their money. period. and the confidence stuff needs to be thrown in the garbage, because a woman will date a rich/finacially_ secure insecure guy, or a rich/finacially_secure shy guy. This also shows that personality doesnt matter that much with both genders. there may be women who turn down the wealthy guy who's weird, but he's gonna have a handful of women knocking at his weird door.
and the 48 year old guy who had money who killed those women, he didnt get women because he was
1.) going for the wrong ones
2.) didnt get out (not even alittle bit)



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07 Aug 2009, 11:22 pm

and again not all women are like this. but all men do want sex, thats a fact, unless he's asexual. and there are women that date all kinds of men. :wink:



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07 Aug 2009, 11:33 pm

MsDoubt wrote:
as i come o think about it, my views of men and women arent too narrow and they are exactly true. men want se. women want resources. simple as that. and im not going to change my opinion. there are no men who dream of their wedding day, or talk about a girls personality or how much money she has in the bank. I had a 38 year old teacher who was a guy and married and he still talked about sex and boobs, and he favored pretty girls even though most were snobby. Men dont care about personality as long as the girl isnt mean. men want sex, women want money. done. thats the truth. im not taking about girls. girls and women are two different things. men want sex from the time they are born till they die and thats all they want. girls like guys for how popular or cute they are, women want men for their money. period. and the confidence stuff needs to be thrown in the garbage, because a woman will date a rich/finacially_ secure insecure guy, or a rich/finacially_secure shy guy. This also shows that personality doesnt matter that much with both genders. there may be women who turn down the wealthy guy who's weird, but he's gonna have a handful of women knocking at his weird door.
and the 48 year old guy who had money who killed those women, he didnt get women because he was
1.) going for the wrong ones
2.) didnt get out (not even alittle bit)


If that were true my sister wouldn't be the one working two jobs and my brother in law wouldn't be the one without a job.

I'm a little confused in the area of sex. Women are also going to want sex but not always in the same way men do. Women are probably going to want something more than just the sex such as love or some emotional intimacy. Although this isn't entirely true with some females who have f**k buddies.

As for money, I believe a lot of that's changed...unless they're gold diggers. They're going to go for a guy who seems attractive in appearance although appearance isn't everything to a lady. They're also going to look for his interests, what his personality is like etc.


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08 Aug 2009, 12:52 am

The paradox with sex is that guys get all the credit, it's our advantage (passing on genes, recognition). Women get taken down a notch in the social circle the more they have sex. So it would make more sense if the woman something emotional in return to convince herself that the man isn't just using her. IMO that's where the obstacles for men come from, we have to convince her that she won't lose any reputation. Nothing stings more than losing a reputation to someone who didn't have much to offer and didn't care anyway.

Sure it's a narrow view, but it just explains some people. It explains what I see pretty well.



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08 Aug 2009, 2:29 am

:cheers:



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Yeah, I'm being an ass. :doh: :lol:


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08 Aug 2009, 3:34 am

MsDoubt, I disagree very much. SOME men may only care if she looks hot and isnt mean, but I personally care very much about her personality. I DO dream of my wedding day and being married to a beatiful woman, inside and out. Call me a liar all you want, because I know who I am. Im very picky, and thats why im still single. Not all men just want sex either. I know you are going to throw the whole primitave instinct thing on me, but you can train out of that and I know its true.

I can tell you right now without any dishonesty whatsoever, that sex is not ALL I want. What I truely want from a girl is a deep, loving relationship. Sex is just something that adds to it to make it better, but isnt a dominant criteria. I actually view having sex with someone who you dont connect very well with and arent in love with to be morally wrong. I can see a very pretty girl walk by, but the minute I find out she is a snobby priss, for example, I lose all attraction for her. She will still have attractive physical characteristics, but I will have no interest in having a romantic relationship with her as well as having sex with her. Ive always been like this.
Im not the only man in this world that is like this. It ticks me off very much when women are blind to that. You can state all your "facts" as much as you want. It may be hard wired in our brain to want to reporduce, but not every man is a pig. Dont let a few bad experiences with guys ruin all of our reputation.

I dont mean to attack you, this is just one of those issues that I will fiercly defend because its some way related to me. Im not a typical macho male pig and it angers me very much when a girl thinks she knows everything about me concerning this stuff. People's preferences in a partner are so vast and different, its completely absurd to say ALL guys only want sex and ALL women only want money. Im not an extremely intelligent person and ive figured that out even at an early age.


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08 Aug 2009, 5:47 am

MDD123 wrote:
The paradox with sex is that guys get all the credit, it's our advantage (passing on genes, recognition). Women get taken down a notch in the social circle the more they have sex. So it would make more sense if the woman something emotional in return to convince herself that the man isn't just using her. IMO that's where the obstacles for men come from, we have to convince her that she won't lose any reputation. Nothing stings more than losing a reputation to someone who didn't have much to offer and didn't care anyway.

Sure it's a narrow view, but it just explains some people. It explains what I see pretty well.


I totally agree. The terms "slut" and "player" describe the same thing: having sex with lots of people: but boy oh boy do they have different value judgements attached.



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Janissy wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
The paradox with sex is that guys get all the credit, it's our advantage (passing on genes, recognition). Women get taken down a notch in the social circle the more they have sex. So it would make more sense if the woman something emotional in return to convince herself that the man isn't just using her. IMO that's where the obstacles for men come from, we have to convince her that she won't lose any reputation. Nothing stings more than losing a reputation to someone who didn't have much to offer and didn't care anyway.

Sure it's a narrow view, but it just explains some people. It explains what I see pretty well.


I totally agree. The terms "slut" and "player" describe the same thing: having sex with lots of people: but boy oh boy do they have different value judgements attached.


That reminds me of this song. "Can't Hold Us Down" by Christina Aguilera.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/cant-hold-us ... ilera.html



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08 Aug 2009, 6:19 am

This is a verse from the lyrics...my favorite..read

"If you look back in history
It's a common double standard of society
The guy gets all the glory the more he can score
While the girl can do the same and yet you call her a whore"