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Would you--an artsy, hipster-ish person--consider dating a moderate Christian/fiscal conservative?
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30 Aug 2009, 5:05 pm

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What I meant was how do I attract someone from a somewhat cliquish group if I am outside of that clique?



The question I would have for you is why exactly are you outside the clique? The artsy hipsters aren't going to be flocking to you if you are standing in front of the Republican Party headquarters.

Try volunteering at the art gallery or help set-up for the local film festival. Be an usher for the Improv group. Is there a local arts community and do they have events? Find their website and join their message board.

If you don't like art then I suggest not bothering, you will really have nothing in common with an artsy hipster. If you don't know anything about art then it is probably a good time to learn about it.

If you put forth an effort within a few days or a few hours you will be invited to the after parties. Artsy hipsters are usually very nice and free with the invitations. And for God's sake, don't yammer on and on about how you are fiscally conservative and can't stand wasteful government programs. State and local arts programs are near and dear to these people's hearts and are often on the chopping block during a recession.

Oh, and if you mention you are sexually uninhibited to artsy hipsters you might find yourself in the midst of an orgy. Keep that to yourself too.



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31 Aug 2009, 7:17 am

I don't go to GOP-related activities. I am not that into the party. I just vote for their candidates.

I don't know where these people hang out. I know that in Austin, it's 6th Street. In Houston, it's Montrose. Not sure what San Antonio's equivalent is.


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31 Aug 2009, 7:32 am

Austin

The Austin Art garage is having a reception on September 10th.

http://www.austinartgarage.com/

You can sign up for email updates in the lower left hand corner of the site.

On April 25-26 Austin is having a massive Art Fair

http://www.artallianceaustin.org/art_city_austin.html

You can join their elist for updates. Volunteers will surely be needed to pull off the fair.

Austin has a digital art movement. I wonder what that is about?

http://www.amoda.org/

Austin Art Center, looks interesting. Go there, check it out.

http://www.arenet.com/art.html

I've been to Austin, 6th Street is filled with frat boy drunks and girls with blue hair and piercings. I'm never one for meeting people at a bar but you can try it.



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31 Aug 2009, 7:35 am

I'm definitely not the bar type.


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31 Aug 2009, 7:43 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I'm definitely not the bar type.


Then I suggest either showing up at an art opening and acting interested, or getting involved with some artistic volunteering efforts. You should have liberal artsy hipsters crawling around you in no time.

Oh, and buy some new clothes before you go. The way you present yourself is very important to the artsies. Right now for men, silk screened tees and dark colored skinny jeans are in (but don't make them too skinny). No cargos.



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31 Aug 2009, 12:28 pm

I once worked in human services. We had to fill out tremendous paperwork to justify our every move to assure we were not "wasting services." This paperwork took up 50% of our time when we could have been helping people. Any slight error in the paperwork could result in budget cuts. We lost $1000 because a co-worker had an illegible signature. The government oversight hurts human services.

Add to that, human service workers work long hours they are not even paid for and use money out of their own pockets to help clients, since budgets are so tight.

I hate wasteful spending as much as you, but most of it is higher up, wasted by congressmen and special interest groups. That is what needs to be cut.

I have no problem with Christians. Many liberal artsy types are also Christians. But those of us who truly have the heart to help others are very put off by Republicans.


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31 Aug 2009, 12:52 pm

Oh dear, Whitetiger, does that mean you don't like me anymore? I still like you.



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31 Aug 2009, 1:11 pm

And to those who suggested that I may be Libertarian...you're right. But I vote Republican because the Libertarian Party has virtually no chance of ever winning an election at the state or national level.

And in Texas, most mayoral races are non-partisan.

And while I'm at it, here's an interesting fact. Phil Hardberger, mayor of San Antonio, is married to Linda Morgan, who survived the Andrea Doria sinking in 1956.


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31 Aug 2009, 6:15 pm

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Oh dear, Whitetiger, does that mean you don't like me anymore? I still like you.


Oh no, of course not! I have friends on both political sides. I can only get intimate with someone who shares more similar views though, as in m-f relationship.


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01 Sep 2009, 5:46 am

Ideally, I would like an artsy conservative, but no such person exists.


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01 Sep 2009, 8:29 am

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If the attraction and similarities are not mutual to begin with, why bother :?


Agreed. Tim_Tex, you remind me of the hyper-conservative "business-type" males who routinely wandered in packs into my favorite Chicago night spot (a g*th/industrial/punk club that was home to every manner of "freak"), to rudely gawk at and attempt to paw the bondage gear-clad women, whilst simultaneously mocking and ridiculing the male club residents who were similarly dressed.

As a religious right-winger, what's the "draw" for you to these folks and their lifestyles? Are you sexually repressed? Is it a way for you to live vicariously through them? I'm really trying to understand, here...


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01 Sep 2009, 8:45 am

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DaWalker wrote:
If the attraction and similarities are not mutual to begin with, why bother :?


Agreed. You remind me of the hyper-conservative "business-type" males who routinely wandered in packs into my favorite Chicago night spot (a g*th/industrial/punk club that was home to every manner of "freak"), to rudely gawk at and attempt to paw the bondage gear-clad women, whilst simultaneously mocking and ridiculing the male club residents who were similarly dressed.

As a religious right-winger, what's the "draw" for you to these folks and their lifestyles? Are you sexually repressed? Is it a way for you to live vicariously through them? I'm really trying to understand, here...


actually the same folks attend the yearly hippie gathering here in Oregon, to try to paw the hippie girls and laugh at the guys, and all the time acting like complete tools thinking they are being 'alternative', and behaving like complete morons.
it is more to do with believing the propaganda spewed by detractors about said 'hippies' rather than any real animosity. They were told that 'anything goes' and they think that is the norm.
but I don't think 'da Walker' is one, necessarily.


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01 Sep 2009, 8:53 am

Oh, dear. I was quoting DaWalker, not directing my comments toward him. My comments were exclusively for Tim_Tex, who I believe is *seriously* barking up the wrong tree... Sorry for the confusion!

Edit: Fixed original post to clear up any misunderstanding. :)


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01 Sep 2009, 9:05 am

I guess I could call myself an artist since last week the New York Times did a rather lengthy article on my art, and I don't even live anywhere near New York.

However, I would hardly consider myself a hipster. I do live a little bit of an alternative lifestyle, travel extensively and have some rather interesting hobbies. I am quite good looking as well, as I take great pride in my appearance.

Having said that, I am routinely asked out by conservative men who are pretty boring. They have jobs and houses, but not much more. I find what the men want is a woman that will entertain them with fascinating stories, hang out with them so they have a pretty girl on their arm, and a woman who act interested in whatever they have to say especially when they talk endlessly about their racist politics and stock portfolios.

What these men don't want is to participate in anything that I enjoy, tolerate a woman who is constantly on the go and interacting with other people, and to listen to anything that I have to say that isn't an entertaining story. What they do want is a woman that will sit beside them on the sofa while they watch TV, play video games and eat cheese steaks.

I figure that once Tim actually dates one of the cute artsy liberal hipsters he won't be as enamored as he once was, especially after she drags him out to 5 gallery openings in a week and she talks incessantly about her art and her artiste friends.



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01 Sep 2009, 9:15 am

Granite wrote:
I guess I could call myself an artist since last week the New York Times did a rather lengthy article on my art, and I don't even live anywhere near New York.


OMG, that's fantastic! :D *Green with envy*


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What these men don't want is to participate in anything that I enjoy, tolerate a woman who is constantly on the go and interacting with other people, and to listen to anything that I have to say that isn't an entertaining story. What they do want is a woman that will sit beside them on the sofa while they watch TV, play video games and eat cheese steaks.


Of course! It's all about their raging Neanderthal egomania.


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I figure that once Tim actually dates one of the cute artsy liberal hipsters he won't be as enamored as he once was, especially after she drags him out to 5 gallery openings in a week and she talks incessantly about her art and her artiste friends.


I don't see it getting that far... ;)


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01 Sep 2009, 10:27 am

I'll jump in with what other posters are saying. It's easy enough to understand why you want somebody who has something in common with you: fiscal conservatism. The harder and more important part is figuring out what it is you are actually looking for when you say you want someone "artsy".

Is it because you consider yourself artsy too? That an artsy conservative woman would actually be someone just like you, rather than someone with a marked difference? If you consider yourself artsy, you should be hanging around the venues of the particular art you are interested in.

Is it because you think an artsy person will make no moral judgement on your choice of entertainment, specifically that she will not find the Simpsons or South Park to be immoral? That is true. She would be very unlikely to find them immoral since an artsy person generally doesn't deem certain types of art immoral and in fact recoils when others make those judgements. However, she may reject them just as strongly on aesthetic grounds. Would that be a problem for you? If what you are actually looking for is somebody who will not judge your favorite entertinment to be immoral, "artsy" is an uneccesary restriction. There are plenty of un-artsy women who pass no moral judgement on such things, they simply aren't interested in either creating art themselves or delving very deeply into the art of others. They may not even consider Simpsons or South Park or your favorite movies to be art and share your interest in them without being artsy as such. Or not share your interest in them. In these days of DVRs and DVDs, a shared taste in shows and movies need not be a requirement so long as the other person who doesn't share your taste doesn't think less of you for liking them.

Is it because you think an artsy person will have an exciting personality and lifestyle and you want to be freed by somebody more exploratory and openminded? Fair enough. The free spirit who frees the inhibited man appears in many, many movies so it must be a common desire. Since these movies mostly qualify as "chick flicks", there must be a number of women who see themselves as that free spirit.

Is it because you think an artsy person is more sexually open? Other posters have some not-pleased words about that and I agree. It really ticks women off to be the member of a group that a man thinks is sexually open and therefore he is all but guarenteed of "getting some" just because she's in that group. I've been in that situation and those men repulsed me, as they repulsed the other posters. When travelling, some men had preconceptions about the promiscuity of American women and assumed that I would leap into bed with them because I was American and they were...men. What do women hear when men like this approach? We hear "you[---]chicks are all a bunch of sluts so you should have sex with me because you have sex with any man". Don't be that man. Even if you don't actually get kicked where it counts, she's thinking about doing it. Fair warning.