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That's probably why your post made most sense to me. Your reaction seemed the most natural reaction for a neurotypical woman.
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It has nothing to do with being "smooth." Conversations aren't that hard to start, anywhere. Comment on something you can both see in a funny way, or is in the immediate vicinity.
You learn social skills by going out and talking to people, not by coming up with weird, stupid things to say "because you get a kick out of it." It's transparent that the only reason the original poster "gets a kick out of it" is because he doesn't have the other option, "having a normal conversation with someone." Which, to someone who's never done it, may sound stupid or whatever...but meeting people and making friends beats the hell out of asking them about "supercroc" or whatever dumb BS he was talking about. Nobody's going to care, you're not "making someone's day." They're going to think, "what the f**k?" and then forget about you. That's just how it works.
Coming up with retarded-ass things to say "because being rejected that way will be less painful" is pathetic. I understand it protects your ego, but seriously, would you rather have someone reject you for being yourself or like you for some ridiculous line?
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pick up lines are pointless semantics, in that even most NTs I know personally view them as pointless.
Sadly, to really talk to women, its more of a spur of the moment type of thing. We have to think fast and adapt to the situation, so yeah... not fun for most aspies, including myself.
as for the supercrock.... I know a few women that will turn it around into supercock. On is related to me, and the other is her best friend :/
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Sometimes you bump into someone and you have but a fraction of a second to decide what to say. At other times you have perhaps about half a minute. At New Year's I had two chances to start a conversation with a woman who was clearly interested in me, only lasting a fraction of a second and the other no longer than a minute. As much as I wanted to, though, I couldn't come up with anything to say. I simply choked an never managed to say a word with her.
The few times I did manage to overcome my fears and start a random conversation with an unknown woman without having prepared anything, I ended up leaving the scene after a few minutes because the consersation dropped dead... so just starting a conservation without any preparation is just destined to end in an even more ackward situation.
I have no problem meeting people when I have enough time to think of topics to talk about and figure out who the other person is because I say a word to him or her. However when you want to meet people at a bar, you don't have these options. You have to think fast, respond fast and be at your wittiest at the same time. Maybe you can teach us how to do that, but as extraverted as I am and as much as I've trained myself in social interaction I simply cannot get past the eyecontact and first contact stages in flirting unless she's introduced to me or I first met her online... Unfortunately getting introduced to someone is rare and the kind of women you meet online is often too unstable to have any sort of long term relationship with... So I'm a bit confused on how to move on from here.
You learn social skills by going out and talking to people, not by coming up with weird, stupid things to say "because you get a kick out of it." It's transparent that the only reason the original poster "gets a kick out of it" is because he doesn't have the other option, "having a normal conversation with someone." Which, to someone who's never done it, may sound stupid or whatever...but meeting people and making friends beats the hell out of asking them about "supercroc" or whatever dumb BS he was talking about. Nobody's going to care, you're not "making someone's day." They're going to think, "what the f**k?" and then forget about you. That's just how it works.
Coming up with retarded-ass things to say "because being rejected that way will be less painful" is pathetic. I understand it protects your ego, but seriously, would you rather have someone reject you for being yourself or like you for some ridiculous line?
i never said i was "making someone's day", i said i was going to leave them thinking "wtf" for the rest of the day, which therefore makes my day. i love that you guys are really so worried about me, but im pretty sure i can handle myself. i know they are going to think "wtf", it's my personal view of life that makes me laugh at creeping other people out. when i really want to talk to a girl on a serious level im not going to use a dumb pick up line period. the whole point is that im most likely never going to see the person again, so i can do whatever i want as long as it's legal....seriously guys i thought we've already gone over this.
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QFT - they're either like you or hate you based on what they read of your eyes and body language rather than the specific words coming out of your mouth.
The only thing I have noticed that women hate in conversation - talking about the weather or what they do (even if you met them through a friend); it seems like talking about anything hackneyed or too mundane is the best way of putting lead shoes on the situation.
In my experience, it's a combination of what you say and how you say it.... Both verbal and non-verbal communication are relevant.
The oposite is true as well. Don't talk about anything too deeply unless you already know they're very interested in the topic. Otherwise, they're easily going to get bored or think you're just too geeky.
Basically, the trick seems to be to be superficial but not too superficial, to appear tough but not too tough and to be nice but not too nice. Thusfar, I fail at that.
i never said i was "making someone's day", i said i was going to leave them thinking "wtf" for the rest of the day, which therefore makes my day. i love that you guys are really so worried about me, but im pretty sure i can handle myself. i know they are going to think "wtf", it's my personal view of life that makes me laugh at creeping other people out. when i really want to talk to a girl on a serious level im not going to use a dumb pick up line period. the whole point is that im most likely never going to see the person again, so i can do whatever i want as long as it's legal....seriously guys i thought we've already gone over this.
You will leave them thinking "wtf" for the next 10 or 15 minutes at most. People have far too many encounters in their day to spend more time than that thinking about some random weirdo who said something weird. If a young woman lives in a city, your attempt at weird creepiness will be crowded out of her mind but the dozen other weird creeps who said something both before and after you. I know you think you will really be rocking someone's world in a bad way, but you will lucky if they pay enough attention to it to bother mentioning it to the friend who texts them 10 seconds after you walk away.
True.
The amount of attention paid depends on location, though. In metropolitan areas people will probably not give you more than a few seconds of attention, but in rural areas where rarely anything happens you might become the topic of the day. I noticed that behavior or looks that shock most people in rural areas are often not even noticed in metropolitan areas.
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To be honest I have never used a pick up line seriously. Maybe thats why I fail at this?
Really though. Regardless of if I am direct or indirect in my approach, I am honest and try without bad lines. Of course I always get rejected so next time I will use:
Me: Do you work at subway?
Her: Uh.. no?
Me: Hmm.. I could have sworn you did. Everytime I see you I get a footlong
HAR HAR
But really, I will never do something that dumb.
I have used lines on girls I knew as friends in a joking way if I liked them slightly more though. That way, if they have no interest you can laugh it off together, and if they do well... ya. Sadly I have done allot of laughing >.>
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