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04 Mar 2010, 5:54 pm

hmmm

What is a real woman? If a woman gets breast implants is she now a fake woman? Or is it just in reference to photomanipulation?



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04 Mar 2010, 6:15 pm

To address Alana's earlier post, I'm sure I'm just a normal guy, not an addiction. Perhaps women are my special interest. What I mean is, when I talk to other women, I talk about other women...what makes them attractive or cool, and I get along with women who understand the dating game and the attraction game. Like I went on a date with a woman, my online female friend asked "how was it?" so I told her "the conversation went well but there was no romantic chemistry" so she said "was she ugly?" i said "no, she was decent" so she said "oh, just no wow! factor?"

On the said date, the woman and I spent a while talking about which female celebrities were overrated and which ones went under the radar, and she was pleased to hear my idea of attractive was not most guy's idea.

I honestly think I'm a one woman guy, but that I enjoy just viewing and psychoanalyzing other attractive women, rating women on the 10 scale with my friends, viewing naked pictures, watching porn, and so on. I also think that if I met the right one, a lot of that would go away. Even just dating my ex for a month, I couldn't see myself with any woman but her.



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04 Mar 2010, 6:47 pm

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If that's the case, why has not one older women (older meaning 40 and up) agreed to meet me on the dating site? They've said "You're adorable, if I were 20 years younger I'd have sex with you in a heartbeat, I have a hard time believing you're struggling to get women as it is." When I ask them to meet, they say "Too young, I have a brother/son your age, I'm not into that thing."


Because they aren't cougars and they feel guilty even contemplating it. The "if I were 20 years younger..." is the giveaway. As is the "I have a brother/son your age". The younger family member the same age as you makes them feel guilty and puts the brakes on it. At some point an older woman who has gotten past that guilt will have a wreckless "oh the heck" moment and then things will get interesting. I don't think cougars are all that common. A lot of women my age are wracked with guilt that men our age simply don't have. But they do exist.



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04 Mar 2010, 6:55 pm

Why do you have to judge women so much based on their appearance?



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04 Mar 2010, 6:59 pm

It's a "looks first" society. I wouldn't want some woman that didn't think I was at least somewhat attractive and thought she was settling.



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04 Mar 2010, 7:03 pm

Or you could possibly get lucky with a beautiful woman someday. I don't really see the sense in ruling out anyone you could find attractive point-blank like that.



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04 Mar 2010, 7:08 pm

My cousin is fat and ugly and has a pretty girlfriend that he's probably eventually going to get married to. Whenever we're at a family party, she checks out me and my brother like she's never seen a decent looking man before in her life. Now granted, I'm decent looking and my brother is really good looking, but I would be offended if were my cousin. If she's looking at his own cousins, who else is she looking at and potentially fantasizing about?

My point being, I want a woman that feels the same way about me as I do about her. And my other point is, while I'm judgmental about a woman's looks, I'm not hypocritical about it. If I'm not a woman's type, or for some reason she doesn't find me at all attractive, I understand, and I wouldn't want to be with her even if I had the chance to win her over with my personality.



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04 Mar 2010, 7:44 pm

Getting back to the original point of the thread...woman number 2 is going to visually appeal to a lot of guy's sexual desires. She's thin but curvy in the right places.

What I really want is someone like my ex, someone like woman number 1. The women I like - Elaine from Seinfeld, Daphne and Roz from Frasier - are kind of like "one of the guys." They're feminine looking, but they aren't girly girls. Roz and Elaine wear business suits and sometimes jeans and leather jackets despite the feminine, pretty face. My ex, though she didn't dress like that, had that kind of personality. It was like talking to a guy.

And I guess the other point of the thread is that for whatever reason, the girly girls like woman number 2 are going to appeal to a guy's sexual desires including myself because we're brainwashed to want a woman with a healthy, curvy body.



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04 Mar 2010, 7:51 pm

^Me too. If I can't be myself and talk like I normally do, I can't be with someone, no matter how attractive she is. I like to joke around and say stuff like "you freakin wacko", and if she can't handle that, well, it isn't going to work out.lol I'm not compatible with the snobby, or easily offended.


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04 Mar 2010, 8:02 pm

There's a difference between a Tom Boy or masculine female, and a feminine female who isn't a girly girl. I was talking to a girly girl type on facebook, a lot like woman number 2 only without the boobs, and you could tell she was easily offended by what I said or thought I was some sort of weirdo, and I wasn't talking to her like I was Screech from Saved By The Bell either. I just asked her if she watched the Patriots game, she said she did, so I said "I have a non sexual crush on Tom Brady" she said "hmm weird" then was about to type something else but didn't.

First, man-crushes are a common term nowadays. Second, I wasn't fully-serious either. Yeah, I admire the guy and he isn't bad looking, but I don't actually have a non sexual crush on him. My ex, I could talk to her without filtering.



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04 Mar 2010, 8:16 pm

^Yeah, I think that's key to a good relationship. I haven't met too many girls that I've been able to 'click' with, but with the ones that I have...it was great. I think I'm mis-judged alot, too. I probably come off as a bully, or maybe just a plain old as*hole,lol when in reality, I'm just a goof with a weird sense of humor. I can't say I have any man crushes though.lol I'm able to identify a good-looking guy if i see him, but I never have any sort of infatuation with them. I'm an alpha damnit,(not by choice, either :P )(maybe a tad cocky, too.LOL) so they're considered competion. :rambo:


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04 Mar 2010, 8:20 pm

I think you can tell right away whether you're going to click too. And I understand that sometimes you can click, but it doesn't last, or you click but there isn't enough interest on one sides or both to go any further.

But I'm just assuming, from hearing her interviews, a woman like Keeley Hazell, in the second pic, I wouldn't click with. I've learned enough NT social skills where I could keep my mouth shut for a few days just to get her in the sack, but long term, I want someone similar to myself.



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04 Mar 2010, 8:41 pm

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I think you can tell right away whether you're going to click too.



Oh yeah, I definitely agree there. Sounds like you also have a really developed ability to sense this, as I do. I think it's 'knowing youself', that allows this, along with some natural intuition. Most times, i can make this determination by hearing/reading only a few words. Well, at the least, I can't tell if compatibility is likely, or not.(with rather good accuracy)


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05 Mar 2010, 4:48 am

therange wrote:
My cousin is fat and ugly and has a pretty girlfriend that he's probably eventually going to get married to. Whenever we're at a family party, she checks out me and my brother like she's never seen a decent looking man before in her life. Now granted, I'm decent looking and my brother is really good looking, but I would be offended if were my cousin. If she's looking at his own cousins, who else is she looking at and potentially fantasizing about?

I personally don't consider fantasy very problematic. I also think that it is the norm.


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05 Mar 2010, 5:31 pm

i used to date a twin. anyone that has before will tell you if you sleep with a twin you naturally want to sleep with the other one