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17 Mar 2010, 2:34 pm

Zen, you missed my point. Yes, the girl in the pics is attractive, but my point to the OP was that neither of us have met her in real life, so he's essentially bragging about having someone to fantasize about, and that me and him (or any other guy) have the same amount of actual intimacy with her...none.

I also agree with what Hope says...the guy tells us the girl's life story, where she's from, and then leaves his myspace and facebook for everyone to see. Out of curiosity, I looked at his facebook and it said "Single." So maybe he's just trolling and pulling a fast one on us?



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17 Mar 2010, 2:50 pm

I think the issue of her privacy is a separate issue from the fact that I thought that the photo of her in question was a pretty standard photo of someone. I didnt realise he had been careless with her details. But I still think that the future will be Gossip Girl X 20, people will likely know lots about people through the internet, even now you can check facebook and learn things about people you dont even know. The only way to stop this from happening to you is to largely stay off it.

And TheRange, I am not sure what you meant by what you said. I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt.

However I cannot resist posting this picture.... not that I am getting at you, but because the picture is so cool.

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17 Mar 2010, 2:54 pm

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I do have a question (mainly for hale bop) which I guess will show off how incredibly out of touch I am with the web world: Are fake internet girlfriends really a common problem? Is it particularly a problem in the AS community or is it common everywhere? I'm not really into the web a social networking thing (don't facebook, myspace, twitter, etc.) and I've only ever used it to connect with people I already knew in real life. This forum is a first for me.

I'm amazed to think that there is (and is need for) an established list of known fakes. Makes me sad.


Fakes are extremely common. And its not just internet girlfriends, it's using pictures of other girls for attention. I even came across a dating site with a girl using my photos and pictures of someone else passing them off as herself. Happened more than once. Maybe people can see why it hits a nerve with me.

People do that sort of thing for attention... also to get money from lonely guys, like a fake myspace profile I came across once. Its such a problem on the www there is a domain dedicated to catching them. Check out fakersbusted on google to see just how many people fake some pictures of girls and guys.

Liars and frauds. Anyone not aware of potential fakes needs to learn because its quite possible they will get duped. Sean is lucky that that girl isn't fake, so thats really good for him, other guys have not been so lucky. Its nothing to do with aspergers either.



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18 Mar 2010, 12:44 am

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The rack shot?

I actually had to go back and look at the pictures again to see what you're talking about. I thought "Did I really not notice that one of the pictures was showing off flagrant cleavage or something?"

No, I didn't. It's a picture of her reading. Out of curiousity, if it had been the exact same picture with a small-chested girl, would you still have thought it was inappropriate? I doubt it. What if she had been overweight, so you wouldn't assume the picture was intended to show off? Honestly, women have enough body shame issues without feeling like they have to hide their bodies away from sight.

(This is, of course, operating on the assumption that Sean had permission from her to post the pictures. Because if he didn't, he shouldn't be posting ANY of them)
I actually had to go back and double-check after reading that too and that's saying something since i of all people should have noticed if my GF's pic was showing "flagrant cleavage" or not :lol: .

& yeah, she's fine with the pics.

& honestly i think he was prolly just joking when he made "pleasuring ourselves to her pics" comment.
Seeing as it was TheRange who said it, and he seems to always pop up in my threads to antagonize me in some way or other.


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18 Mar 2010, 1:04 am

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I just dont agree. People the OP's age grew up with the internet, whereas older people are more cautious. In the future, people's lives will be lived more on the internet, not less...

And I think the guy who commented about masturbating over her photo would probably masturbate over a photo of ET, he seems that randy. I dont think posting a picture of a girl would suddenly change this.


@zen_mistress, you're entitled to your opinion. "Growing up" with the internet, however, is no excuse for being oblivious to how it's eroding our right to fundamental privacy - and how we're helping it along. And when that privacy is gone, it's gone. I'm not talking about folklore or urban legends, either. I'm talking about real and serious damage that can be done and is being done to people's lives because people put too much information out in forums and other websites that anyone can access. This young lady is a pretty girl, and she lives in Indianapolis, and she's on FB, and I believe we know her age and a lot of other details about her. At the very least, we know enough about the OP to track her down through him, because he's published his FB link. That's just not smart. And frankly, she should be able to depend on him to use better judgment in order to protect her interests.
Actually, i've been fairly careful about her details and keeping them anonymous. I'm intentionally vague on anything truly pertinent for just such reasons as you've pointed out.

evidence of that lies in that you've gotten your facts wrong. So i'm giving myself a high five right now.

-She doesn't live in Indianapolis
-She doesn't have a Facebook, so she isn't on mine
-and i actually meant roughly the same age when i said that. So no, no one here can say her exact age for certain either.

Also i make a point not to include any of the pics she had her name added digitally into.
and the pics i do use can't be traced directly back to her through it's image URL because i take precautions against such things by using an image hosting site as a medium.



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18 Mar 2010, 1:08 am

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Zen, you missed my point. Yes, the girl in the pics is attractive, but my point to the OP was that neither of us have met her in real life, so he's essentially bragging about having someone to fantasize about, and that me and him (or any other guy) have the same amount of actual intimacy with her...none.

I also agree with what Hope says...the guy tells us the girl's life story, where she's from, and then leaves his myspace and facebook for everyone to see. Out of curiosity, I looked at his facebook and it said "Single." So maybe he's just trolling and pulling a fast one on us?
actually it prolly says "single" because i'm hardly ever on facebook so i saw no point in updating it :lol: .
Essentially all i use that for nowadays is to play games on, Like Mafia Wars for example.
It's not that great, but strangely addictive 8O


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18 Mar 2010, 1:15 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Aspiewifey wrote:
I do have a question (mainly for hale bop) which I guess will show off how incredibly out of touch I am with the web world: Are fake internet girlfriends really a common problem? Is it particularly a problem in the AS community or is it common everywhere? I'm not really into the web a social networking thing (don't facebook, myspace, twitter, etc.) and I've only ever used it to connect with people I already knew in real life. This forum is a first for me.

I'm amazed to think that there is (and is need for) an established list of known fakes. Makes me sad.


Fakes are extremely common. And its not just internet girlfriends, it's using pictures of other girls for attention. I even came across a dating site with a girl using my photos and pictures of someone else passing them off as herself. Happened more than once. Maybe people can see why it hits a nerve with me.

People do that sort of thing for attention... also to get money from lonely guys, like a fake myspace profile I came across once. Its such a problem on the www there is a domain dedicated to catching them. Check out fakersbusted on google to see just how many people fake some pictures of girls and guys.

Liars and frauds. Anyone not aware of potential fakes needs to learn because its quite possible they will get duped. Sean is lucky that that girl isn't fake, so thats really good for him, other guys have not been so lucky. Its nothing to do with aspergers either.
Haha yeah, i used to get adds from fakes all the time on myspace .
They were sooo obvious :lol: .
And always the same. It'd be some profile with a standard few hot pictures, usually having only a few friends by the time i got the add (prolly because most other people also recognized it as a robot account and steered clear), and every time there'd be no real personal info and just typical bare bones stuff.


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18 Mar 2010, 2:05 am

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Actually, i've been fairly careful about her details and keeping them anonymous. I'm intentionally vague on anything truly pertinent for just such reasons as you've pointed out.

evidence of that lies in that you've gotten your facts wrong. So i'm giving myself a high five right now.

-She doesn't live in Indianapolis
-She doesn't have a Facebook, so she isn't on mine
-and i actually meant roughly the same age when i said that. So no, no one here can say her exact age for certain either.

Also i make a point not to include any of the pics she had her name added digitally into.
and the pics i do use can't be traced directly back to her through it's image URL because i take precautions against such things by using an image hosting site as a medium..


So, you're high-fiving yourself because she's on myspace instead of FB? Seriously? You're setting the bar pretty low, dude.

It's fine with you that you've provided masturbation material to anybody with a computer? Cause I don't guess there's any way to take "precautions against such things" - except of course, to refrain from publishing body shots of your gf. I'm sorry, I cannot believe you care about this girl, because a man who cares about a woman would do everything he can to protect her. Sorry dude - this whole story is just a fail....entertaining at times, but a fail.


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18 Mar 2010, 3:10 am

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It's fine with you that you've provided masturbation material to anybody with a computer? Cause I don't guess there's any way to take "precautions against such things" - except of course, to refrain from publishing body shots of your gf. I'm sorry, I cannot believe you care about this girl, because a man who cares about a woman would do everything he can to protect her. Sorry dude - this whole story is just a fail....entertaining at times, but a fail.


Because men don't care about/aren't attracted to faces? I am so confused about your stance on this. If you were anti picture-posting entirely I'd at least understand where you coming from, but the idea that facial shots of a pretty girl are okay and anything that drops below the neck are evil and objectifying is frankly bizarre. Women are whole people, not just heads, not just faces, not just bodies. And if people are going to masturbate to pictures of someone, there are probably just as many people walking around masturbating to a mental image after having seen them in public. I think this kind of logic is a slippery slope that leads to things like women not being allowed out of the house with more than their eyes showing.

For what it's worth, I'm with you 100% on the idea of protecting someone's personal identifying information, but as for photos, if she okayed them, he did nothing wrong.



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18 Mar 2010, 3:16 am

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Actually, i've been fairly careful about her details and keeping them anonymous. I'm intentionally vague on anything truly pertinent for just such reasons as you've pointed out.

evidence of that lies in that you've gotten your facts wrong. So i'm giving myself a high five right now.

-She doesn't live in Indianapolis
-She doesn't have a Facebook, so she isn't on mine
-and i actually meant roughly the same age when i said that. So no, no one here can say her exact age for certain either.

Also i make a point not to include any of the pics she had her name added digitally into.
and the pics i do use can't be traced directly back to her through it's image URL because i take precautions against such things by using an image hosting site as a medium..


So, you're high-fiving yourself because she's on myspace instead of FB? Seriously? You're setting the bar pretty low, kid.

It's fine with you that you've provided masturbation material to anybody with a computer? Cause I don't guess there's any way to take "precautions against such things" - except of course, to refrain from publishing body shots of your gf. I'm sorry, I cannot believe you care about this girl, because a man who cares about a woman would do everything he can to protect her. Sorry dude - this whole story is just a fail....entertaining at times, but a fail.


okay, now you're just grasping at straws.
I shot down any good reason you might've had to be telling me off,
and now you're grasping at straws. awesome :roll:

the guy who even brought up the whole masturbating thing in the first place even came back and left a post complaining how we'd all misinterpreted what he even meant by his post. And the way he meant that post in the first place doesn't even support what you're saying. as for that other guy who said something along the lines of "i'd hit it", when i was single, i said stuff like that all the time. Any random guy in the town she lives in has the same privilege of seeing her, dare i say it..... with all her clothes on in modest poses 8O ?!?! Oh my god, i should totally blindfold every male in the vicinity to protect her from the "threat". The same threat that even looms should someone happen to glance her picture randomly when searching people on myspace. Making posting innocent pictures on here of all places so comparatively inconsequential that i must be a horrible & thoughtless person to have posted even a single picture. I really am a monster :roll: .

& finally, that's hardly much of a "body shot" it's only the upper half, not even the whole upper at that, she's prolly wearing like 3 layers and it's at an angle.
if any man were to actually masturbate to that i'd be very much surprised.
Lord knows that most men wouldn't waste the time to masturbate to a fully clothed partial picture when the internet abounds with all variety of free internet porn.
However not to say she's not worth masturbating to, she is. What I am saying though is that that particular picture, in my opinion, is not exactly likely to 'cause a world-wide pandemic of masturbation let alone compel the average passerby to drop his trousers and go at it.

& besides all that, i notice alot of your posts have that "holier-than-thou" ring to it. Honestly, it's kind of annoying at times.
Either that or i'll see alot of posts from you where you seem to be in "Guru" mode and at times you can appear somewhat jaded.

You don't approve of some of the things i do, but that's no excuse to get all self-righteous on me and blow a few simple pictures way out of proportion.
Just as I don't approve of some of the things you do, but incredibly i'm not making petty attempts to criticize you :? .

& to accuse me of not caring about her?... That's a low blow. I will suffer not another such grave insult upon my integrity. That is the one thing you could have said to make me truly angry :evil:


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18 Mar 2010, 3:52 am

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What I am saying though is that that particular picture, in my opinion, is not exactly likely to 'cause a world-wide pandemic of masturbation


Oh my god...this is going to make me cackle for days.



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18 Mar 2010, 4:26 am

Speaking personally, I only masturbate to images from my favourite porn sites or when I'm fantasizing about girls I met in the past.

As a connoisseur of masturbation, I do not yank my chain to just any old picture of a female.



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18 Mar 2010, 4:38 am

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Speaking personally, I only masturbate to images from my favourite porn sites or when I'm fantasizing about girls I met in the past.

As a connoisseur of masturbation, I do not yank my chain to just any old picture of a female.
exactlyy :lol:


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18 Mar 2010, 9:13 am

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Because men don't care about/aren't attracted to faces? I am so confused about your stance on this. If you were anti picture-posting entirely I'd at least understand where you coming from, but the idea that facial shots of a pretty girl are okay and anything that drops below the neck are evil and objectifying is frankly bizarre. Women are whole people, not just heads, not just faces, not just bodies. And if people are going to masturbate to pictures of someone, there are probably just as many people walking around masturbating to a mental image after having seen them in public. I think this kind of logic is a slippery slope that leads to things like women not being allowed out of the house with more than their eyes showing.

For what it's worth, I'm with you 100% on the idea of protecting someone's personal identifying information, but as for photos, if she okayed them, he did nothing wrong.


Yes, Aspiewifey - you are confused. I never said that pictures that "drop below the neck are evil." That's clearly what you believe I said, but if you go back and read my posts, I said that posting that picture objectified his gf. Definition of objectification: "Objectification is an attitude that regards a person as a commodity or as an object for use, with insufficient regard for a person's personality." I do believe the source of your confusion is your misinterpretation of my posts.

As to why I think the face shot is "okay" - I guess I'm more inclined to go with that whole "eyes are the window to the soul" idea, so the pics of the young lady's face, IMO, do portray her character and personality (particularly the shot where she's making the goofy face).

"I think this kind of logic is a slippery slope that leads to things like women not being allowed out of the house with more than their eyes showing." Now to me, that comment is truly bizarre, because not allowing women outside of the house with more than their eyes showing is a classic example of objectification. In fact, I don't think I could come up with a more profound example of presenting/treating a woman as an object than to require her to wrap herself up like a package.


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18 Mar 2010, 9:25 am

...*sigh*.... Internet love...... :roll:
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Hows about letting this thread die?



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18 Mar 2010, 9:58 am

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okay, now you're just grasping at straws.
I shot down any good reason you might've had to be telling me off,
and now you're grasping at straws. awesome :roll:

the guy who even brought up the whole masturbating thing in the first place even came back and left a post complaining how we'd all misinterpreted what he even meant by his post. And the way he meant that post in the first place doesn't even support what you're saying. as for that other guy who said something along the lines of "i'd hit it", when i was single, i said stuff like that all the time. Any random guy in the town she lives in has the same privilege of seeing her, dare i say it..... with all her clothes on in modest poses 8O ?!?! Oh my god, i should totally blindfold every male in the vicinity to protect her from the "threat". The same threat that even looms should someone happen to glance her picture randomly when searching people on myspace. Making posting innocent pictures on here of all places so comparatively inconsequential that i must be a horrible & thoughtless person to have posted even a single picture. I really am a monster :roll: .

& finally, that's hardly much of a "body shot" it's only the upper half, not even the whole upper at that, she's prolly wearing like 3 layers and it's at an angle.
if any man were to actually masturbate to that i'd be very much surprised.
Lord knows that most men wouldn't waste the time to masturbate to a fully clothed partial picture when the internet abounds with all variety of free internet porn.
However not to say she's not worth masturbating to, she is. What I am saying though is that that particular picture, in my opinion, is not exactly likely to 'cause a world-wide pandemic of masturbation let alone compel the average passerby to drop his trousers and go at it.

& besides all that, i notice alot of your posts have that "holier-than-thou" ring to it. Honestly, it's kind of annoying at times.
Either that or i'll see alot of posts from you where you seem to be in "Guru" mode and at times you can appear somewhat jaded.

You don't approve of some of the things i do, but that's no excuse to get all self-righteous on me and blow a few simple pictures way out of proportion.
Just as I don't approve of some of the things you do, but incredibly i'm not making petty attempts to criticize you :? .

& to accuse me of not caring about her?... That's a low blow. I will suffer not another such grave insult upon my integrity. That is the one thing you could have said to make me truly angry :evil:


I'm not "grasping at straws" and I'm not "telling you off" - I'm expressing an opinion: you objectified your gf when you posted that last pic.

No, Seanmw, you should not "totally blindfold" every guy in her vicinity to keep her from being ogled and objectified. You should also not invite men to pay that kind of attention to her, and that's what you've done. (Btw, you're accepting the support of a guy who did objectify her by saying, "I'd so do her?" That comment is not a compliment. A compliment would be to say, "Wow, your gf is very pretty. You are lucky." What he said is disrespectful and disgusting and insulting. And since - by your own admission - you're guilty of publishing the same kind of crap about other women, then I guess I now understand why you believe objectifying your own gf is completely acceptable.)

It does take a level of maturity to realize that you should protect and respect the women you care about, because that's more important than the pride and satisfaction you might derive from showing her off, a.k.a., objectifying her. Making those kinds of trade-offs is what separates the men from the boys. If you want to be worthy of this young lady, I suggest you start acting like a man, and leave all of your, "I'd hit that," disrespect toward women back in high school.

As to me being "holier than thou" - that's hilarious. "Holiness" is definitely not my strong suit. But I do think I'm a lot wiser than you, and that is wisdom born of experience, making plenty of mistakes, and learning from them. You can take my advice or leave it - your choice. Also, I don't understand what you mean by being in "guru" mode, or what you mean by being "jaded" - but I'm sorry if my humanity is disappointing to you. Progress is my goal (improving the person I am), not perfection. I can live with that objective - I suggest you do the same. (Btw, not too smart to tell me you're not making petty attempts to criticize me, immediately after making a petty attempt to criticize me. Fail.)

It's too bad that your response to challenging your POV is to become angry. I wasn't trying to make you angry, I was trying to make you think.


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