To all you chronically lonely guys yearning for love

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@ViperaAspis:

So, I don't get to you in any way, is that what you're saying? I'm sorry, but your disproportionately angry and hateful reactions point in a different direction. Besides, your turn of phrase "when I feel attacked" says it all.

Several people have tried to refute me; some even had good points that I hadn't considered yet (such as Makuranoshi or DrS). But you only offered an odious lIttle display of self-righteous moral superiority, presented as a series of meaningless diatribes. Boohoo, how unfair I am in giving young men advice you neither appreciate (fair enough) nor understand! Boohoo, dddhgg the corruptor of youthful morals! In a way I pity you, for having stepped on your sensitive heart so harshly (deny as you will), but I'm in no mood to spare someone who calls me a venomous, bitter racist.

You claim to have proved that following my advice leads one to be such. No, sir, what you have proved is what a sanctimonious goody-goody loser you are, and that you know nil about "telling people to behave" or "discrediting" other people. The only weapon in your oratorical arsenal is the old ad hominem-gun, and even that one you screw up badly.

You have in no way discredited me, if that was indeed your aim, but instead you've gravely offended the intellects of the guys for whom the advice was intended, since you assume that they're all brainless asses who can't think for themselves, and that it falls on you, brave ViperaAspis, to defend their fragile little minds from the immoral poison that big bad dddhgg is spreading. Guess what? They don't need you and your self-righteous tripe, and your "defense" is wholly ineffective as well. My influence isn't really so important as to implant ideas into minds that didn't contain them in the first place.

I could go on, but I won't. I'm very sorry that I can't have a normal discussion with you, without backstabbing and hysterics, but now I see it's pointless to even try. This is the last you'll hear from me, VA. I won't waste another word on you (OK except these).

Ah, here comes the PC thought police with screaming sirens.

Did it really escape your mind that accepting things about people and making fun of them don't preclude each other? My best friend is quite fat - a fact that we've both accepted completely. But I can't help making fun of his big belly, and so can't he. We were having dinner the other day. He said, "What a delicious meal you've cooked; i really can't get enough of it." Said I, "O, I was just trying to give you a heart attack before you're 40, fatso." (Implicit prejudice: all fat people have heart attacks.) "Oh, that's why you've put all the lard into it, you scoundrel." Big peals of laughter. On another occasion he called me a Korean Jew, because I like buying and selling things for a profit. I thought it was hilarious. So what's your problem with this? Aren't we supposed to laugh about each other's characteristics? Are we to reverently mute ourselves about our differences? But that would be taking away one of the things I like so much about him so much, his total irreverence for my sensitive points and his own. (He's white himself by the way.)

It's an undeniable fact, by the way, that most people whining and whining about racism are white (and generally well-educated) nowadays. Perhaps this is due to some guilt complex about things that happened in the colonial era, but I'm no sociologist, so this is just my conjecture.

It bugs me, finally, that some people have the nerve to suggest that I'm racist myself. My parents are white, my (adoptive) sister is indian, some of my intimate acquaintances are non-white muslims, and the few black people I know generally are very friendly and outgoing to me. How I could be even slightly racist and still accepted or even loved by all those people is totally beyond me.

Do you even understand what racism is? Cause your posts indicate that you do not. So, for you own edification, "Racism is a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others."

So, let's review, shall we? There's your original interpretation of Bill Cosby speaking German as simply hee-larious; your sweeping generalization about politically correct white people; your friend's hee-larious remark about you being a "Korean Jew" because you like "buying and selling things for a profit" (yeah, if you're not Jewish, you don't get to laugh at people making racist remarks about being Jewish and claim that as proof that you're not racist); and another remark about most people whining about racism being white. Hmmm....I'm not suggesting you're racist, I'm declaring that you're racist. And your "I come from a multi-racial family" card doesn't mean a thing - it certainly doesn't negate the racism in your views. You're not the only one who comes from a multi-racial family, pal. I'm betting if you displayed your vitriolic racist attitudes to the people you claim as friends IRL, you wouldn't find yourself either loved or accepted.

Oh my, you sure are an unlucky man arent you?

I have AS, and i dont have a job, as of now of course since i'm still studying. I dont really suffer from anything else as much as i know.
I've been in 2 relationships so far. I've had 4 people have a crush on me after a cosplay convention, one of them even stalked me for abit.
I guess i'm not all that ugly as i think i am, but just extremly low on confidence.

My parents are turkish and muslims, but i'm an atheist.
If i REALLY wanted to, i could tell my dad "Dad, i've considerd it, i want to marry a turkish woman" and he would right away introduce me to alot of women, aka, visiting families and crap. he says himself i'm the kind of man a Turkish woman would want, a person who cares for his loved ones, who does not go out at weekends and etc. ( of course this dosnt mean you will be happy )

If i really wish to, i can be given those things, but i chose not to, as i want to find someone myself.

So all this crap said shortly: You are sadly wrong and WAY to pessimistic. Well ok, i'm pessimistic myself, but that dosnt mean i'm just gonna give up on life. If you're so pessimistic, then why continue to live?
I almost want to stay in contact with you for life, so when the time comes, i can stick your words right back into your mouth.
So have fun mate >D

@The OP: Wow, what an explosion. A good learning experience for me here it seems. The mods had talked you down and instead of helping, it seems I've riled you to the point of non-communication.

Careful with the direct insults. We've been tangental until this (you, starting it: "Senility has its perks"; me, finishing it: "if taking your advice leads to a venomous, bitter mentality..."). Note that in our previous exchanges, we're not directly namecalling. However, something like "you are a sanctimonious goody-goody loser" is a direct attack and is not allowed here. Ask a moderator if you don't understand the difference between attacking an argument and attacking a person as I have had little success in reaching you.

I'm not angry with you, nor do I harbor any hatred towards you. You have my word that any animosity stays within this thread (for me, anyway). It would have been nice to have this end in a discussion about Kant or classical music.

For the record, I don't believe lonely guys have any more fragile minds than anyone else, nor do I think they need defending. Speaking as a former lonely heart, most are made of some pretty tough stuff and I admire them for maintaining hope and for their perserverence.

So two thoughts as I end this:
1. Even Stephen Hawking was not only twice married but also had an affair and has sired three children! There is hope for everyone.
2. CP may put your body in a chair, but it doesn't mean your mind has to be in one as well. Be nice to people and they will respond in kind.

Not exactly strong reassurance. Stephen Hawking is an extremely successful theoretcal physicist. Hell, he's a celebrity.

I'd do him. If only for bragging rights.

you speak for yourself only

Thanks DM; I should have noticed that I needed to be more specific:

Stephen Hawking was married in 1965 before he even graduated from college! BEFORE he was "Stephen Hawking"!

He met his first wife in college (she was a language student) and they were together until 1991!! !! That's better than most 100% healthy and hale Neurotypical track records!

Though I don't care about relationships at the moment since I'm busy doing more important things, I disagree heavily with the OP.

Firstly, I'm a diagnosed Aspie and I have had girlfriends before - both NT and Aspie - and I'm sure I'll have more in the future.

Second, the posts on this forum will be mainly negative because people come here for advice. Therefore, the perception is skewed if the number of posts you've seen on a forum is your basis for thinking that all Aspies are doomed relationship-wise.

Such a depressing OP. If you care enough, isn't the slight chance worth it?

like marilyn and albert?

dddhgg was chased away from here because so many folk refused to accentuate the positive and ignore the negative. how many of us can say they've never stuck their feet in their mouths? how many of us can say we wouldn't want to be forgiven "70 times 7" for such? always cutting people to the quick throws out the baby along with the bathwater. i thought WP was supposed to be [aspiring to be] a welcoming place for refugees from the right planet, even if they are mixed-up and snarling like cornered animals. i sincerely hope it can still pursue this golden end - otherwise, what are we all here for?