Do you prefer the woman to make a move?

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Do you prefer th woman to initiate first kiss/makeout session/sex?
Yes, the woman should initiate 74%  74%  [ 49 ]
No, the man should initiate 26%  26%  [ 17 ]
Total votes : 66

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09 Jun 2010, 9:58 pm

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Okay I'm sorry :lol: , that was mean. But you will be lucky to find maybe three of the above all in one person. You are just setting yourself up for more disappointment and a hatred in men. That would just put all the pressure on me to fill those expectations.


I know many guys who are all of the above.


I bet those guys have very high standards thou


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09 Jun 2010, 11:57 pm

nick007 wrote:
Greenmouse wrote:
countzarroff wrote:

Okay I'm sorry :lol: , that was mean. But you will be lucky to find maybe three of the above all in one person. You are just setting yourself up for more disappointment and a hatred in men. That would just put all the pressure on me to fill those expectations.


I know many guys who are all of the above.


I bet those guys have very high standards thou


They do. I was interested in two of them and I had no luck. They both rejected me.



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10 Jun 2010, 4:50 am

Matt88 wrote:
I think its about twice as difficult for an aspie to initiate than someone who isnt an aspie. I've only ever asked a girl out once and that was when I was 100% sure we had a connection after we had been on a date and hadnt spent more than a day apart. Of course i got rejected at first but then we dated for almost a year. I learned a lot and im still worrysome about it. Personally I dont feel any gender has a duty to initiate. I think more women should though since in our culture its still expected men should do so.


Indeed. It's so ironic women these days like to consider themselves as emancipated unless it comes to dating. Then they want things as traditional as possible. I guess they only want the upsides of emancipation but not the downsides.

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I'm 21 and i've only been in 4 relationships.


I'm 28, had my first girlfriend at the age of 19 and had 5 girlfriends in total, which is still quite a lot according to Aspie standards. I wouldn't complain if I were you.

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Only 1 of those of those were initiated by me.


I initiated all besides the first. Usually I tried just sitting close to her and if she still felt comfortable, I let me hands wonder off and see how much she allowed. If she didn't stop me, I looked for a good moment to kiss. It's by no means the best approach to follow but at least I was able to use this technique smoothly...

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I still have trouble understanding all the subtle signals women give out. I wish things were more straightforward but i know thats never going to happen. Anyways thats my experiences.


True. I also still have trouble understanding all their subtle signals, however my best friend (a lesbian woman) does the best she can to teach me the ropes and I recently met a straight woman I do somewhat connect with who knows I have Asperger's Syndrome and who does her best to understand why I barely respond to her flirting attempts even though I'm interested in getting to know her at a level beyond friendship.

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I know many guys who are all of the above.


You know many guys you THINK are all of the above. Many women your age don't have a clue how to read men, neurotypical or not. You gals are so guided by your emotions you can be easily manipulated to believe anything from some random as*hole who knows how female emotions work... and then they complain afterwards that all men are pigs. How frustrating and irritating !



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11 Jun 2010, 3:29 pm

Alla wrote:
Aspie guys, do you prefer the woman to initiate the first kiss/makeout session and then sex?


Of course, always. Yes. :wink: I like it that way.


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16 Jun 2010, 12:47 pm

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Knowing how to play the dating game does NOT show that you're a good partner, a good husband or a good father. IT does NOT show a man is protective, tender, full of leadership, creative, intelligent, soft, rich, compassionate, and a baby-lover. All it shows is his ability to get women into bed. More often than not, the best partners, the best husbands and best fathers totally suck at the whole dating game yet many women seem to be clueless about that.


I was talking about dating a man for months or years before marriying him. NO sex until the wedding night.

The man should prove he's going to be a good leader for his family. So he has to be the first to make a move.

I agree with you when you say some men are only looking for sex, and that's irrelevant.

Élodie


And what is this outdated, sexist notion based on? Women can lead just as well as men.

Here in the U.S., nobody or their dog postpones sex till marriage (Except for some very religious holdouts), and nobody bats an eye!

This is further proof that John Lennon was right when he said that "woman is the N of the world".



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16 Jun 2010, 1:44 pm

Some time around the start of the year I went on 'dates' with the same gal. We met up through interwebs singles place (it's a wonder I tells ya'!) and went had coffee, did a day trip on the road... and bowling...
At the end of the first 'date' (first time I'd ever actually 'dated'!) I wondered wtf I was meant to think abouts her (judge someone after 3 hours! get real!)
At the end of the second 'date', I knew it was a giant decision time. Send signal or not? I chickened and didn't (I was overloaded and confused so did nothing)

Now, in discussion with another lady-friend, she suggested that were I interested, I could give her a little kiss on the cheek or something (and as a guy I am to make such an event occur by manipulating lead-up events). My instant reaction (and where my rant fits in to the thread) was that I am really uncomfortable entering someone's personal space unless there's so much sexual-tension it's tangible to even observers.

Curiously, I think would have been uncomfortable had my 'date' initiated by kissing my cheek for the same personal-space reason. I am a fan of the guy initiating but much like other have said, it's something so totally mutual that it's comfy for guy and girl.



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16 Jun 2010, 9:52 pm

I'd have to say that either she has to make the move, or make it VERY clear that kissing/making out/sex is what she wants...

My girlfriends have always made the first move though...Hell with my current girlfriend I made it to 2nd base before 1st base. lol