billsmithglendale wrote:
I wouldn't say I shun it (I'm very pro-white in the face of too much political correctness, or in the face of reverse racism, also known as "affirmative action"), but I don't stay in lockstep with it either, and I'm quick to criticize it.
--90% of my friends are some kind of ethnic minority
--Everyone I dated (and who I married) was non-white
--I enjoy ethnic cuisine far more than most white people, even by the L.A. standard.
--My musical tastes straddle multiple cultures and outlooks, and I'm not into Metal, Alternative, or any other stereotypically "white" musical genres.
My main issues with white culture have to do with some of the cultural snobbishness. I'm just as guilty of this, but I don't like being too insular. By the same token, I also don't like it when other ethnic groups are too insular -- this is America, we're supposed to blend, not be "separate but equal."
However, I also don't like it when white people (or any people) are too politically correct or too into the "white people are to blame for everything" mode that became so popular in the 1980s and beyond. I especially don't like the idolization of thug culture and ghetto black culture that started mainly in the 1990s here, though this has also happened in previous eras in this country (the 20s and the 60s). Putting an ethnic group on a pedestal that has had every chance to make things right with themselves, has had the country tripping over itself to please them for the past 50 years, yet still commits a disproportionate amount of crime, wallows in poverty and births out of wedlock (70% now, vs. 20% pre-Civil Rights), and if anything, has made the mainstream culture worse and trashier with their ghetto culture doesn't seem like a great thing to me. I don't think white guilt is a good reason to pander and turn a blind eye to self-inflicted problems in that community. Everyone else seems to be able to get with the program, why not this group?
Anyways, that rant aside, I don't particularly identify too much with other white people other than some common roots. Having married someone of another race and nationality has opened my eyes to the difficulties others face, and some of the wrong cultural assumptions we make.
P.S. -- I know Seattle has more African Americans than it used to, partly because of CA's third strike law, and partly because poorer immigrants pushed them out of neighborhoods here in L.A. (Compton is now a majority Latino), but have you actually been to Atlanta or the South at all? I can assure you that the African American folks you find out there will be a far cry from what you experience in Seattle, and not in a good way. I for one have been fairly shocked by the level of poverty and crime that the South has, even compared to the gang warfare and daily homicides we have out here in L.A. It really is the pits out there.
No man I've never been to the south, I've never been out of Washington State sans 5 hours in Vancouver during the Olympics, I wish I had some experience in other regions but I don't I didn't grow up in the type of family that I got to vacation to Disney World, I'm just sick of being jelous when I see others got to visit Atlanta, I wanna make it to the black mecca, I realize it's a lot harder down there and it'll be a culture shock, I realize a lot of people won't want me down there, I've taken everything into consideration.
The black people up here actually tend to be first generation or second generation Ethiopians and Eritreans and look more like middle easterners, a lot of Muslims which is even more of a hump than a normal black girl.
And for you guys talking about gangsta rap first of all gangsta rap is just a crappy rip off of reality rap from the East Coast, G Funk is the only decent west coast hip-hop IMO.
I don't mess with hood rap BTW, I like underground hardcore not that fake Scarface(Pacino not Brad Jordan) s**t.
I like s**t like the following:
Jedi Mind Tricks, Army of the Pharaohs, R.A. the Rugged Man, Snowgoons, Bloodline, Celph Titled,
Necro, OuterSpace, Juju Mob, Chief Kamachi, Reef the Lost Cauze, Jus Allah, D12, Bone Thugs N' Harmony, Onyx, Ill Bill, La Coka Nostra.
Pistonhead wrote:
I shun all cultures and incorporate what little positive aspects they possess into my own uniqueness.
Love the post man, I feel the same way to an extent, I'd cactually consider myself about half black half white culture wise even though I'm full white biologically, I just really find myself attracted to black women.
leeloodallas wrote:
You don't sound as if you're trolling to me... everybody's got preferences...
I can't say that I shun my own race/culture, but I do feel like an outsider sometimes. I'm 22yo, black and I've always been told that I talk/act white because I don't use slang, know all the new rap songs, read a lot, etc. It's kind of annoying...
I am attracted to black, white, and some hispanic guys, especially nerdy ones. I also have a thing for potheads but that's a different story. There aren't many black males my age that I know with a black gf (all hispanic), and I can't help but wonder if I'm screwed in finding a black guy who won't automatically write me off due to ethnicity over personality. Maybe I should look elsewhere, like outside of FL or the south? Surely there are black male 20'something's into black female 20'somethings in other areas? I wouldn't mind dating any type of guy though, so long as they're cool and not super religious (don't mind it from a scholarly perspective but as a belief it turns me off).
Knowing myself, I'll probably forget all my preferences when I meet a guy I really like. Funny you mention Atlanta OP; I was just thinking about Atlanta as a dating place. Don't try FL though; it's a hoebag convention (guys and girls).
Well I'm a troll on a lot of other sites, I enjoy it but I'm being serious on this forum as my Aspergers, OCD and bi-polar are no joke to me.
Damn, you're a 22 year old black female Atheist who's open to dating white guys? Damn, that works for me.
Yeah Atlanta seems like it's kind of the place to be right now, especially for black people.
Wasn't planning on Florida, I hear the Snake problem is out of control, the economy is terrible and the hurricanes are a big problem, my cousin who has ties to the area said everyone's trying to get out.
Keeno wrote:
It seems like this isn't an uncommon thing among Aspies, especially those who are love-shy or male lesbians. Hurtful experiences often lead someone to shun their own race or culture, because they feel they're somehow not in sync with their own culture and that the culture has failed them. I was in that stage once until I realised, being an Aspie, I'd probably feel that way wherever I happened to be brought up. So in my case, I happen to have been brought up in the UK, and developed a feeling of alienation from UK culture.
On Tuesday I watched the Scotland v Spain match with such a guy who's an Aspie, and Scottish, and he was supporting Spain, and seemed to really feel it, because he has come to hate the Scottish people and culture.
It's even more common for love-shy people to feel alienated from their culture, than it is for Aspies, because they have failed in romantic relationships where they were brought up, they failed in that most desirable of goals. Just visit the forum and you'll see what I'm talking about. Some such people, unlucky in love in the developed world, found partners in countries such as Mexico and the Philippines, though this isn't because they're better cultures, it's a question of economics and human development.
I feel ya, seems like a lot of people interested in interracial dating have felt snubbed by their own race at one point
Male lesbians?
Are you saying these guys basically bought wives from Mexico and the Philippines? Cause the mail order bride thing isn't something I'm interested in.
14 Oct 2010, 10:11 pm
