Obsessions that lead to a broken heart

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06 Jun 2006, 2:45 am

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There you go butting in again, I clearly defined my responsive pattern to initial insults. Emp, you are an a***hole, just look at your posts. Now mind your own business you jurk.

If you are going to call me a jerk, at least spell it correctly.

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You have nothing to do with this post, enough with it.

You say I have nothing to do with it, despite the fact that you specifically mention me by name and call me an a***hole again? You are not making any sense, as others have said. And you are contradicting yourself. The only thing you are succeeding in doing here is making yourself look raving mad.

I have a suggestion. How about we both leave this thread. Look, I will even let you have the last word. Post another message if you really must, and then I will ignore it (and probably will not be able to comprehend it anyway), and then we both stop posting to this thread. I will not be posting anything more to this thread in reply to you (altho' I may respond to others).



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06 Jun 2006, 8:29 am

For the people who are still on topic here...

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The first is always the worst because you don't understand the emotion involved. Once you understand that part, you can say to yourself that you realize that you like a person because of your autism and not because of love - you really don't know this person well and the autism is causing you to think there's something there that isn't.


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There IS a way out of obsessions. It's tricky, but if you're aware of what's going on in your head and pull all the right stops, you can get out of them pretty easily.


Good advice from both of you. Although I've made little progress in this area myself, those strategies are the ones that help me the most - recognize what's going on and call yourself on it. Call it what it is/be honest about yourself about it, and realize that it's not normal - that other people don't think that way and it could lead to behavior that's not socially acceptable. (And don't trust your own judgement if you think what you're thinking/doing is ok - remember that our judgement is skewed because we're aspies.)



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06 Jun 2006, 9:12 am

neongrl wrote:
...Although I've made little progress in this area myself, those strategies are the ones that help me the most - recognize what's going on and call yourself on it. Call it what it is/be honest about yourself about it, and realize that it's not normal - that other people don't think that way and it could lead to behavior that's not socially acceptable. (And don't trust your own judgement if you think what you're thinking/doing is ok - remember that our judgement is skewed because we're aspies.)


I would say that our judgement is skewed because we're human, not because we're Aspies. Aspies don't have a monopoly on obsessions with people; many, if not all people become infatuated with a person at some point in their lives. Therefore I don't think there's any need to brush it off as 'just an Aspie' thing', because it's not abnormal - it is in fact very normal.

I'm not saying that we should act upon infatuation, though. Just that we shouldn't be so quick to conceptualise our behaviours as 'abnormal' just because they're undesirable.



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06 Jun 2006, 2:23 pm

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There you go butting in again, I clearly defined my responsive pattern to initial insults. Emp, you are an a***hole, just look at your posts. Now mind your own business you jurk.

If you are going to call me a jerk, at least spell it correctly.

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You have nothing to do with this post, enough with it.

You say I have nothing to do with it, despite the fact that you specifically mention me by name and call me an a***hole again? You are not making any sense, as others have said. And you are contradicting yourself. The only thing you are succeeding in doing here is making yourself look raving mad.

I have a suggestion. How about we both leave this thread. Look, I will even let you have the last word. Post another message if you really must, and then I will ignore it (and probably will not be able to comprehend it anyway), and then we both stop posting to this thread. I will not be posting anything more to this thread in reply to you (altho' I may respond to others).


Emp so you've made me appear like a jerk and a fool and now you're after SC. Why are you out to critize, make people look stupid the way that they aren't for saying things that I or anyone else says wrongly. Why are you out to crush me? Why would you turn on me and everyone who also has AS. Some here like you some here hate you. I'm one of those that don't like you. I'm with SC that are a major pain in the butt. I hate what you did to me. You make me turn into one of those NT people which are always bulling every but I'm not an NT and I'm not out to bulley anyone not even Fiz. I can't believe that everyone is turning against me just because of you. I really wish you hadn't gotten here. I'm not the only one who feels this way. You don't need to feel like you need to correct everyones English on this forum. You a editor of this site. You screwing everyone Emp. Everyone posts and their words you are screwing them to make other people feel dump and stupid. Some are feeling that you are purposely making people to chose sides. One doesn't not to have a basis. This isn't politics and this isn't a political debate. This isn't to be made to chose sides. To be one against the other. We don't need a war of words here. I'm standing up against you because you've done nothing but destory me. So would you please get end all this meaningless correcting and butting in when you aren't wanted. Thank you.


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06 Jun 2006, 8:04 pm

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Emp so you've made me appear like a jerk and a fool and now you're after SC. Why are you out to critize, make people look stupid the way that they aren't for saying things that I or anyone else says wrongly. Why are you out to crush me? Why would you turn on me and everyone who also has AS. Some here like you some here hate you. I'm one of those that don't like you. I'm with SC that are a major pain in the butt. I hate what you did to me. You make me turn into one of those NT people which are always bulling every but I'm not an NT and I'm not out to bulley anyone not even Fiz. I can't believe that everyone is turning against me just because of you. I really wish you hadn't gotten here. I'm not the only one who feels this way. You don't need to feel like you need to correct everyones English on this forum. You a editor of this site. You screwing everyone Emp. Everyone posts and their words you are screwing them to make other people feel dump and stupid. Some are feeling that you are purposely making people to chose sides. One doesn't not to have a basis. This isn't politics and this isn't a political debate. This isn't to be made to chose sides. To be one against the other. We don't need a war of words here. I'm standing up against you because you've done nothing but destory me. So would you please get end all this meaningless correcting and butting in when you aren't wanted. Thank you.


When will you people learn? He's not "after" anyone. He jsut critisizes stupid posts, which wally has made several of in this thread. Look other peoples worlds do not revolve around you, so stop thinking they do! No-one is out to get you, they just reply to silly posts. (like this one)

No-one is "choosing sides", I'm on no-one's side, I am just alone. I will tell anyone (including emp) if I disagree with something they say.

You might want to read the entire thread next time also, before you make some of those comments.



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07 Jun 2006, 8:19 am

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Emp so you've made me appear like a jerk and a fool and now you're after SC.

If you appear like a jerk and a fool, you did it yourself, and I only observed and commented on it after the event. How about you take responsibility for your own messages, instead of trying to blame me for what you wrote yourself? I did not make you write what you wrote.

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Why are you out to crush me?

I am not out to crush you or "get" you. If I criticise a message, I criticise it because of the content of the message, not who wrote it.

I cannot respond to the rest of your message because it is all just a big monoparagraphic mad rant, and what can one say to that?



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07 Jun 2006, 12:14 pm

Emp hates Christians, he has al ong history on this board attacking them. When people stand up against it, he will hate them as well.. I call it the social gravitational hate force within him.

I commonly switch letters around if they sound the same. Part of my dyslexic principles at times. Also MS Word does change words around, such a a mistype typing to fast, then I just paste it over to quickly to notice.

He's what I call digging deep to try to get other haters to hate me by making fun, instead of facing what it is he does here with trashing Christians consistantly. I just have the audacity to stand up to it and make an example of his horse poo.



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07 Jun 2006, 1:54 pm

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The problem is fact is fact, delusion is not fact. I will make judgments concerning others, judgments and false belief are entirely different things.


Yes, but is overreaction a matter of judgement or false belief? You make such a big deal about facts, and yet fail to bring up facts yourself to prove what hostility you have faced. Someone asked you if you were sniffing glue because you said something he found nonsensical--mild disrespect, definately, but hardly enough to start an emotional rampage.

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Keep the post material relevant to the post. Go an argue the imagined government sponsored 9.11 scenario in that post.


I wasn't arguing for my views about 9/11 in my post. Where did you get that idea? And it's very ironic that you told me to keep the posting material relevent to the post when I was saying the exact same thing to you in my last post, in the very sentance in which I brought up the other thread.

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This is between me and some people who thought it would be funny to call me names, I kicked butt and I didn’t even need bubble gum. I suppose a few did not expect to be opposed so harshly, I might have even startled them.


I understand your position--believe me. But what I'm saying here is that these guys weren't being trolls. I'm sorry, but it just really seems like you overreacted. This seems even more the case because you're still not contradicting the points I bring up or answering my questions. You're still referring to this "disrespect" in a vague way, and boasting your self-defense. Again, self-defense is fine, but when you're defending yourself against attacks that aren't coming, that's another thing entirely. It's also another thing entirely when your attacks go further than the attacks that assaulted you.

I want this thread back on topic as much as anyone, but sc, you're making it off-topic as much as the "trolls" you so deplore--as am I, but at least I admit it. Do I have business here? Perhaps not. But I have the right to post in a thread as much as anyone, and I am concerned for the wellfare of these forums. I love these forums. I hate seeing conflicts on them, and I'm here to try and work it out. Sc, just step back and look rationally at your behavior. Not in relation to anyone else's, just your own, on your own. As I said, I fully respect one's right to defend oneself and one's views, but does it not sometimes go too far?



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07 Jun 2006, 2:09 pm

You can play down the actions of others all you want. There is no over-reaction, just a cuase to stop what people are doing purposly. No one is tryign to take away your rights.

I have taken the initiative of creating another post for this, so to put this one back on track. Emp is a troll, a bully and an instigator. Anyone disagreeing with that just likes his ways of pissing others off.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 283#235283

Go join that post, the more people post here not having to do with the post, the more the initial trollers get there way with it.

Saying I overreacted to the idiot remarks (one after another then laughing about it) putting me down when I was nothing but kind in this post originally before others baited me is wrong. No one says those things to me, perhaps brat kids in high school, which perhaps they might still be.

I'm an adult, talking to me that way is asking for it. As I said don't do it again or else we will have another one of these occurences.

Learn some respect and with reguard to emp, I just returned the same level of nonsense to him as he has done with others for so long. He deserves it and more. I won't be happy until he is seen for what he is, an instigative man of hate who pleasures in what he does.



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07 Jun 2006, 11:49 pm

All I saw in this thread was sc saying something with flowery language, someone replaying with something like "What the crap did that mean?" and a bigass fight ensuing.

What on earth did I miss here? (Prefereably someone not involved should tell me)



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08 Jun 2006, 12:41 am

I just think you need to lighten up, SC. No-one's out to get you - you're reading into things too much.



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08 Jun 2006, 2:13 am

No, I’m not, not at all.. A few people decided to put me down so I let them have it. Then to lighten it up it was chosen to interpret it differently..

I don't tell people here to go sniff glue or say they do.. Some people like "poking buttons".. I made myself clear I would not accept it.

People simply overreacted and saying I overreacted, I suppose saying those things is now ok unless you or another person is being called it. Hell, someone even laughed at the put downs..

Nope, I reacted well enough and I don't tolerate it.

What if I said something bad about you, like the B word. I'd expect you to get really mad..

People should have minded there own business and stayed out of it, instead people tried to justify the put downs as acceptable humor.. I think that's a load of bull, obviously. I'm not stupid, but some believe me to be partially to even consider that.

Then somehow I'm in the wrong for doing what was done to me, that too is a load of bull.



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08 Jun 2006, 3:54 am

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What if I said something bad about you, like the B word. I'd expect you to get really mad..


People call me taht on a daily basis, and no, I don't get really mad. It was fair enough in my opinion to be annoyed at emp correcting the "couldn't care less" thing, I probably would have said what emp said to someone too, but I would also accept if the person retaliates.

But, I did not see the need to go into things such as Emp being a satanist or something..



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08 Jun 2006, 4:16 am

I dislike injustice social or otherwise.. Sort of like how I witnessed abuse and neglect with county medical in Fresno. For me not to speak out about it would be an injustice.. The same with emp, its similar.. This post has been taken over, the original topic something to do with nothing being discussed now..

I don’t recall my initially bringing up emp in this post... Yet I do recall my response to some arse remarks that the original person did, I don’t believe he has responded either. IF they wanted a reaction they got it, to much, to many people talking about the nonsense when it could have just been between the first individual and me..

I do suggest people, at least someone figure out the last relevant posts concerning the original topic and paste them to be responded to. I don’t even want to talk in this post, I find it all ridiculous and people should have left it between he and I, not he, I and them.



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08 Jun 2006, 12:03 pm

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Emp so you've made me appear like a jerk and a fool and now you're after SC.

If you appear like a jerk and a fool, you did it yourself, and I only observed and commented on it after the event. How about you take responsibility for your own messages, instead of trying to blame me for what you wrote yourself? I did not make you write what you wrote.

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Why are you out to crush me?

I am not out to crush you or "get" you. If I criticise a message, I criticise it because of the content of the message, not who wrote it.

I cannot respond to the rest of your message because it is all just a big monoparagraphic mad rant, and what can one say to that?


How much are you trying to make me believe that you're not out to get me? How can you convince me that you're not out to ruin me and I'll shut up.


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08 Jun 2006, 12:17 pm

The guy is a manipulator, I don't even know what he wastalking about, as if what I wrote was unjust and he is the victim. All he has done is attacked others of faith. I would not even worry about him, he is just that way.