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13 Nov 2010, 11:10 am

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They're a form of isolation, and really in the real world unless you're stereotypically Asian/nerdy/geeky, the typical NT or socially popular person shuns people who spend time in front of an XBox/PS3/Wii.



f them then. This is what I like doing and I'm not going to change because some idiots out there think it's uncool.



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13 Nov 2010, 11:33 am

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Man, this thread is tempting me to go back to the bar and have a few drinks and maybe pickup another girl's number.


So you're trying to make fun of me huh? Rubbing it in that I can't get girls and you can? One of my old friends used to do this all the time.

He was 10-20 times better looking than me and could get just about any girl he wanted. He always teased me. Calling me ugly ( being mean not just playing) making fun me being with a prostitute when I was 15, laughing that I never any before or since then. He used to brag about who he sleeps with the previous night or weekend, knowing that I have no shot of even talking to the girls he's been with.

Though I stop hanging around this person 1-2 years ago, I still have some resentment and anger towards him.



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13 Nov 2010, 11:39 am

MR20 I just want to say that with your attitude toward your situation that you will never be able to be accepted. Yes to make it in this world you will have to at least somewhat conform to normal societal rules.

Your Asperger's, your gaming, your anime, the way you have been treated, those are all excuses.

It doesn't matter what happens to you in life, what matters is your response. What is your reaction to a situation you are placed in? The reaction you need to have right now is to understand If you begin understand that just a little conformity will get you a long way. You don't have to lose who you are just because you meet some societal standards. Personally I'm a huge gamer but because I have taken the time to learn how to socialize, to mimic the body language, and to learn when certain things are appropriate that I am able to blend in and have jobs. Those who get to know that I'm a good person are much more willing to accept my quirks later on. Sometimes I wear nothing but gaming apparel when I go places... Hat, shirt, jacket, belt buckle, all gaming related stuff. No one minds because they know it's just a small part of what makes me.

and this quote fits for you also

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Because that’s the difference between people who heal and people who don’t: recognizing that the influences and conditions that created the person you are today really don’t matter; what matters is having the courage to do what it takes to fix the problems you have. Or you can let being ashamed of having problems or needing help limit your options, and limit your happiness and fulfillment in life. You can even keep blaming your parents, siblings, teacher, God, your disability, your disease, your birth order, whatever for your unhappiness. I’m sure all those factors have probably legitimately done their share of damage. The problem is that blame – even legitimate, well-placed, well-deserved blame - doesn’t do a goddamned thing to repair the damage. The power to heal is in each of us. The only real question is whether we use that power or not.
-HopeGrows


Take the time to make the best of your situation and REALLY do something about it.



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13 Nov 2010, 11:58 am

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MR20 I just want to say that with your attitude toward your situation that you will never be able to be accepted. Yes to make it in this world you will have to at least somewhat conform to normal societal rules.


f**k conforming if it makes me change who I am

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Your Asperger's, your gaming, your anime, the way you have been treated, those are all excuses.



Those are not excuses. It's the people fault for who I am today, for not accepting me. For shunning me and making me feel like an outcast. It's their fault for the way the world is today. They should all pay and they will. By burning in hell for all eternity.



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13 Nov 2010, 12:13 pm

You're not KenM are you?

The fact that you seem to have a Christian point of view is alarming to me but I won't go there.



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13 Nov 2010, 12:26 pm

MR20 wrote:
Mikelight wrote:
MR20 I just want to say that with your attitude toward your situation that you will never be able to be accepted. Yes to make it in this world you will have to at least somewhat conform to normal societal rules.


f**k conforming if it makes me change who I am

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Your Asperger's, your gaming, your anime, the way you have been treated, those are all excuses.



Those are not excuses. It's the people fault for who I am today, for not accepting me. For shunning me and making me feel like an outcast. It's their fault for the way the world is today. They should all pay and they will. By burning in hell for all eternity.


1) make sure to read my entire post

2) It's not everyone's fault that a few people treated you badly

3) They most likely won't be burning in hell



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13 Nov 2010, 12:32 pm

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You're not KenM are you?



I have no idea who that is



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13 Nov 2010, 12:39 pm

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2) It's not everyone's fault that a few people treated you badly

Most of the people I've coming into contact with have treated me the sameway, so it's not just a "few"

3) They most likely won't be burning in hell

You know don't that. They're all evil. Evil = sent to hell



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13 Nov 2010, 12:54 pm

well, you have your answer. you have decided you will not change, and some change is always necessary for a relationship or a friendship. it can be small changes, like washing regularly or like not getting pi$$ed off at the whole NT world (being angry at everyone would not make you a very fun or engaging friend).

not one person in the entire world, whether NT or aspie, is completely accepted for who they are are, and there is good reason for that. we have to interact and live together in society, so if a person will not change themselves at least a little to become less offensive (smell-wise or attitude-wise), then they will create an uncomfortable environment for other people, and other people have no reason to have to accept that. so they will shun you.

you can make small changes and increase your chances, but if that is not acceptable to you then i'm afraid your situation will not change either.


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13 Nov 2010, 2:05 pm

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well, you have your answer. you have decided you will not change, and some change is always necessary for a relationship or a friendship. it can be small changes, like washing regularly or like not getting pi$$ed off at the whole NT world (being angry at everyone would not make you a very fun or engaging friend).

not one person in the entire world, whether NT or aspie, is completely accepted for who they are are, and there is good reason for that. we have to interact and live together in society, so if a person will not change themselves at least a little to become less offensive (smell-wise or attitude-wise), then they will create an uncomfortable environment for other people, and other people have no reason to have to accept that. so they will shun you.

you can make small changes and increase your chances, but if that is not acceptable to you then i'm afraid your situation will not change either.




I've tried changing, I've tried to do that for better part of the past 8 years. I've tried to fake interest in the stupid pop culture s**t people are into, I've tried at one point into time to dress with the latest fashion. It's never worked. No matter hard I tried I never fit in. So after awhile I said f it, I'm going to be myself and if people aren't going accept me forget them. I keep trying to tell you people that it's them not me, they're the ones that need changing.



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13 Nov 2010, 2:07 pm

You know what fine then. Enjoy your so called "friends" that are whores, bullies, selfish, self-centered, greedy, and evil bastards. They might rule this world with their evil now, but they will have to answer for it in the next life. All of them will pay for eternity and I'll have the last laugh.



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13 Nov 2010, 3:13 pm

This topic sounds almost like its fit for the haven rather than love and dating.

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Life isn't worth living. Who would want to live as me? I'd like the optimists and positive people to try and put a spin on this.


Yeah, people who are positive are an easy source of entertainment when you're bitter. The positive spin is-- You SOUND decently intelligent, even with all the problems and difficulties people with AS "could" or usually will have with a work environment, if you're smart enough to type out that post-- you're smart enough to at LEAST get a minimum wage job, save up invest and not go homeless.

Yeah, I think the same.. a lot of people are evil. Imo, every single living person or thing has a problem at least on PAR with AS. BPD, NPD, OCD, OCPD, molested as a kid, you name it. You should at least put forth the effort instead of taking the easy way out.



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13 Nov 2010, 3:15 pm

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You're not KenM are you?

The fact that you seem to have a Christian point of view is alarming to me but I won't go there.


kenM most probably committed suicide , got jailed or found a woman.

I am certainly sure it's one of the 3.



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13 Nov 2010, 3:27 pm

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kenM most probably committed suicide , got jailed or found a woman.

I am certainly sure it's one of the 3.


Sounds like quite a guy.



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13 Nov 2010, 6:03 pm

alexptrans wrote:
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kenM most probably committed suicide , got jailed or found a woman.

I am certainly sure it's one of the 3.


Sounds like quite a guy.


He had the same attitude as this guy, except he was 41, hated women, made threads about how all women should burn in hell, wouldn't change and wouldn't help himself.



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13 Nov 2010, 6:28 pm

Creatures that fail to adapt to their environment and surroundings go extinct. Adaptation is a very good thing, I highly recommend you try it, or at least think about it. Works for me :D