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30 Jun 2011, 8:38 pm

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Christians ruined my life. Therefore I never want to be near one or at least date one ever. I can't trust them and they can't trust me. :cry:


I am sorry that your experiences with Christians have been so negative so far :(

I really do think that parents shoving religion and other lifestyles down their children's throats often leads them to become Atheist or agnostic.I believe in teaching them yes..but once they become of age they have to start making their own choices.With that said I really do beleive your views on Christianity would soften someday when you were finally able to pull from under your moms thumb and experience the world more fully for yourself.Sounds like you've been exposed to a band of Christian fundamentalists all your life,and it has soured your outlook on all of us.When you say Christian's have 'ruined your life' are you just talking about your mom/family/church,or do you have experience outside of that.


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Please. She won't listen to reason. I feel like I'll be trapped by her overbearing bitchiness until she dies. She's only 47 so I don't think I can wait that long. :(


Also I was wondering why do you think you are trapped under your mothers rule until she dies.
Are you taking care of her?I live with my 75 yr old grandfather because he's too weak to do everything that needs to be done at the house.

Or is it because you're not sure if you would be able t currently survive with your own place and vehicle?Didn't you mention earlier that you don't drive?
I ask not out of disrespect but because I have seen some with aspergers/autism on these forums who admit they wouldn't do well on their own.


Well, family and church and those darn protesters at my college. Sorry, I'm tired of getting preached at about the condition of my "soul." Look, I don't need God. I already have an absent father who does nothing for me so what good is there in another "Father" who never speaks to me? :/

I'm learning to drive and I really suck at it. I also can't find a job and I don't know if I'd ever get paid enough where I could afford my own place and car insurance and all that. Everything is so expensive it's hard for people who are just starting out. :(


Other than the issues with your family, what do you not like about Christianity?

You mentioned homophobia. Some denominations (particularly Unitarians, Episcopalians, and Lutherans) even ordain gay pastors, and officiate at same-sex weddings (wherever it's legal).


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30 Jun 2011, 9:09 pm

Just wanted to say, I've recently been put on Buspar, which is taking some time to adjust to, and tonight I've also happened to be on a powerful muscle relaxer for an unrelated physical strain; the muscle relaxer isn't agreeing with me at all (I'm honestly starting to wonder if I'm allergic to it) and the combination has had very strange effects on my behavior and mental stability. I've always had frequent manic episodes and mild psychosis, but was having a very unusually severe attack, I wasn't in my right mind at all, and I sincerely apologize for my irrational, uncalled for replies.



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30 Jun 2011, 10:11 pm

You would actually be surprised about how many liars, nutters and weirdos use them. Mainly liars. There are SOOOO many liars on dating sites it's not funny. They lie about their age mainly, then their education, their photos, whether they are married or not, send out the same message to 100 girls pretending it's exclusive, what they are looking for, their child situation etc.

I've been on dating sites for 8 years and believe me, some of these aren't stereotypes.



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01 Jul 2011, 8:54 am

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Because it's harder for women to date when they get over age 30. The older you are, the chances of finding a man older than you is even harder. You have to look for divorced men, the scraps of other women. A lot of guys are chasing younger women so I need to get a man while I'm still young and decent-looking. :(


Well to be honest there are even a lot of people in their 20's that have married and divorced once or twice these days.If I were you I wouldn't be nearly as worried about having' the 'scraps of another woman' as I would trying to find a good man that will love you for who you are.It's just like how certain people say they will only settle for virgins.Don't get me wrong,I would be grateful to marry an inexperienced woman so we could learn intimacy together.But modern reality says that in most cases if you find a person you like,odds are that they've been with another man/woman sexually before.That doesn't mean that I wouldn't want to be with them though.

Same deal with the divorce thing.If I truly loved a woman I wouldn't let the fact that she was married before or had a child by another man get to me that badly.It may be awkward at first yes,but it shouldn't stop me from pursuing a relationship.

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I'm trying! But I suck at it no matter what I do. :cry:


You're doing fine I'm sure.The only way you could possibly 'fail' is if you let yourself and others persuade you to quit.I thought I would never be able to get my driving certification either.But i picked at my fear bit by bit untill finally I had that license in my hand.


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*sigh* I've applied to so many places and I don't think I'll ever get a call back. D:


One thing I've found is that if you merely apply you're unlikely to get the job.Hundreds of people do the same as you every month.The best course of action is to apply to a whole lotta places and then frequently call or visit the places you would most like to have a job at.They seem to much highly respect people whom will press the issue after the initial application.




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...tried talking to mom about it and she's made me feel guilty for having needs again. "I've sacrificed a lot for you and you're just being a spoiled brat who doesn't care! I've been hurt by a lot of people in my life and I don't need my daughter doing it too." *sigh* Once again, I'm left frustrated and like my opinion will never be considered. D:


That sounds very selfish.
Seems she considers everything about her,and never thinks that a young person needs their own freedom and independence.You should ask her why making a grown woman bend to her expectations and you asking for your own space is in anyway disrespectful to her.



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01 Jul 2011, 9:18 am

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I've never lied on a dating site. If anything I'm too brutally honest, but that will never change. I always posted pics of myself and never said I looked like Brad Pitt or any other celebrity, and I have zero respect for most CEOs. Maybe I came across as pessimistic, but I wasn't insulting anyone and you're coming across as a condescending as*hole. What you said struck a very negative chord with me... for your information, I happen to be spending a lot of time helping to take care of my mother out of the goodness of my heart because she has cancer. So seriously, f**k you. I'm generally a nonviolent person, but if you'd been around to say that to my face I'd make sure you "turned the other cheek" and took a steel toed boot up your ass.


I wonder if you could show me ONE instance where I said these faults apply directly to you?

I said that in general these are the attributes that make people come away with negative outlooks on online dating.Maybe YOU have been honest with others online,but that doesn't mean the people you write will be.All it takes is one to be unfaithful or dishonest and the relationship will start falling apart.I was just trying to give my friendly 2 cents but after your rude little outburst there,you struck a big Neg chord with me as well. Seems to me that you're the one sounding like the A hole my friend.

Thats sad about your mom,hope the best for her.I've seen both my parents die in front of me at an early age,and I tended to my grandmother with Alzheimers until the day she died.You're not doing anything a lot of other people have done.Take a chill pill and stop jumping down my throat.



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01 Jul 2011, 11:58 am

Erisad wrote:
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4. "Why would a guy be willing to drive so far to meet you? He must be up to something bad." (Actual quote).



When my father gave me the speech about being careful because Mark might be an ax murderer :lol: I responded with...

"Thanks, I'm aware that I'm no prize. I've got issues. He's got issues and just maybe, our issues work together."

If anything, I've found that online dating is kinda nice because you can get to know about each other emotionally before there are any physical demands.


Yeah but my mom's like, "He could just be saying all the right things to get you feeling all secure and then he'll rape you or kidnap you when you meet." *sigh*


Unless the guy just straight out says he just wants to "kidnap" you and hookup a bunch of times.



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01 Jul 2011, 3:22 pm

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I wonder if you could show me ONE instance where I said these faults apply directly to you?

I said that in general these are the attributes that make people come away with negative outlooks on online dating.Maybe YOU have been honest with others online,but that doesn't mean the people you write will be.All it takes is one to be unfaithful or dishonest and the relationship will start falling apart.I was just trying to give my friendly 2 cents but after your rude little outburst there,you struck a big Neg chord with me as well. Seems to me that you're the one sounding like the A hole my friend.

Thats sad about your mom,hope the best for her.I've seen both my parents die in front of me at an early age,and I tended to my grandmother with Alzheimers until the day she died.You're not doing anything a lot of other people have done.Take a chill pill and stop jumping down my throat.


I'm sorry for your losses. I missed the context of what you said, I was not in my right mind in the least, and I apologize.



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01 Jul 2011, 4:13 pm

Xeno wrote:
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I wonder if you could show me ONE instance where I said these faults apply directly to you?

I said that in general these are the attributes that make people come away with negative outlooks on online dating.Maybe YOU have been honest with others online,but that doesn't mean the people you write will be.All it takes is one to be unfaithful or dishonest and the relationship will start falling apart.I was just trying to give my friendly 2 cents but after your rude little outburst there,you struck a big Neg chord with me as well. Seems to me that you're the one sounding like the A hole my friend.

Thats sad about your mom,hope the best for her.I've seen both my parents die in front of me at an early age,and I tended to my grandmother with Alzheimers until the day she died.You're not doing anything a lot of other people have done.Take a chill pill and stop jumping down my throat.


I'm sorry for your losses. I missed the context of what you said, I was not in my right mind in the least, and I apologize.


Apology accepted.
I got a little heated too,happens to everyone sometimes I suppose :)



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01 Jul 2011, 6:02 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Erisad wrote:
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Christians ruined my life. Therefore I never want to be near one or at least date one ever. I can't trust them and they can't trust me. :cry:


I am sorry that your experiences with Christians have been so negative so far :(

I really do think that parents shoving religion and other lifestyles down their children's throats often leads them to become Atheist or agnostic.I believe in teaching them yes..but once they become of age they have to start making their own choices.With that said I really do beleive your views on Christianity would soften someday when you were finally able to pull from under your moms thumb and experience the world more fully for yourself.Sounds like you've been exposed to a band of Christian fundamentalists all your life,and it has soured your outlook on all of us.When you say Christian's have 'ruined your life' are you just talking about your mom/family/church,or do you have experience outside of that.


Erisad wrote:
Please. She won't listen to reason. I feel like I'll be trapped by her overbearing bitchiness until she dies. She's only 47 so I don't think I can wait that long. :(


Also I was wondering why do you think you are trapped under your mothers rule until she dies.
Are you taking care of her?I live with my 75 yr old grandfather because he's too weak to do everything that needs to be done at the house.

Or is it because you're not sure if you would be able t currently survive with your own place and vehicle?Didn't you mention earlier that you don't drive?
I ask not out of disrespect but because I have seen some with aspergers/autism on these forums who admit they wouldn't do well on their own.


Well, family and church and those darn protesters at my college. Sorry, I'm tired of getting preached at about the condition of my "soul." Look, I don't need God. I already have an absent father who does nothing for me so what good is there in another "Father" who never speaks to me? :/

I'm learning to drive and I really suck at it. I also can't find a job and I don't know if I'd ever get paid enough where I could afford my own place and car insurance and all that. Everything is so expensive it's hard for people who are just starting out. :(


Other than the issues with your family, what do you not like about Christianity?

You mentioned homophobia. Some denominations (particularly Unitarians, Episcopalians, and Lutherans) even ordain gay pastors, and officiate at same-sex weddings (wherever it's legal).

If I may interject I believe that she doesnt have a problem with christianity itself, however she was forced/is somewhat forced right now to be a christian in several ways and when you get things shoved down your throat from an early age several people begin to develop some sort of hate towards them.

For example as a child I was put into golf classes(dont ask), I had to wake up very early every saturday to my class so when I was 12 I begun considering leaving it and I told my parents so, they said I couldnt leave it. Two years later I had stopped the classes and while I was at it I made a point on making sure I wasnt associated to it at any time(changed my style of clothing...)

Several years later I was with my parents watching golf tournaments live because instead of forcing me to go there with them they had invited me along to a near country for a couple of days to watxh the world competition(dont know the propper name)and I wasnt expected to dress a certain way any longer etc.



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01 Jul 2011, 11:04 pm

LULZ @ the presumption that "God" is de-facto the Christian one, and religiosity is default. :D


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02 Jul 2011, 12:07 am

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Well...as some of you know, my mother discovered my online dating profile last week and it didn't go well. I still have it (I don't think she knows that I reactivated it) and she gave me reasons why I shouldn't do online dating. Feel free to post some misconceptions about online dating or dating in general and disprove them. You can disprove it yourself or allow someone else to do it. Let's keep it clean people, mmkay? :)

1. "The men on dating sites are rapists. You can't expect to find anyone good on there. If they were good men, they would have found a girlfriend in their own area." (Mom said this one).

2. "Psssh, there aren't any REAL girls on dating sites."

3. "Everyone lies about their age on dating sites. They're all 40-something year olds prowling on teens." (Yes, my mom said this one too)

4. "Why would a guy be willing to drive so far to meet you? He must be up to something bad." (Actual quote).

And I'll let you guys come up with the rest. Feel free to disprove these with facts and examples at your leisure. :)


Ok, I have read through all of the posts, and here's what I think, for whatever it's worth. One, your mother does seem controlling and unhelpful. Almost 22, and you still have rules and things you're not allowed to do? Two, it would be very beneficial for you to depend on her less. Three, not having a car or job is hurting the chances at being less dependent on your mother. So here are my practical steps on how you could help this situation.

1) Move out of her house.
2) Move into a city with public transportation. Maybe the nearest city to your rural area?
3) Get a job, even if it's at Starbucks or a restaurant. Your profile says college graduate, I bet you could get something like that, and restaurants are nearly always hiring.
4) Find safe and solid roommates you can share rent with. There are plenty of websites to help with this.
5) Live like you've never lived before.

Just my thoughts, this is what I would do. Best to you.


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02 Jul 2011, 12:08 am

that its easy



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04 Jul 2011, 11:45 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
LULZ @ the presumption that "God" is de-facto the Christian one, and religiosity is default. :D

Well it's true that everyone has a right to their own opinions,that's what makes debating great.But indeed through my own opinions and experiences I have concluded that Jesus is the son of God.



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04 Jul 2011, 11:57 am

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I'm pretty much convinced that anything positive ever said about online dating is a misconception.

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