ValentineWiggin wrote:
The fact that men are expected to approach women is arguably an *obstacle* for women, in that they are (more so than men) expected to passively-wait to be asked out, which, in conjunction with the fact that a few women are asked out left and right, whereas, often, average-looking or even ugly ones are never asked out once, would make it seem that your theory about women having it "easier" is shot, except wherein BOTH the male and female are exceptionally-shy, AND they both have a similar level of overall desirability to the opposite sex. It is easy as a man to think women as a whole just passively-wait for men to approach them, if the only ones you pay attention to are the ones who get approached by men in the first place.
So your point is that if a woman has no suitors, then she is forced to become the initiating side, and since that is not along the line of cultural expectations, that makes it more difficult?
My earlier point, by the way, was intended to be like you said: both man and woman are equally and very shy, and equally attractive to the opposite sex. Comparing a male model to an average-looking female would be silly indeed.
wefunction wrote:
Artros wrote:
Rereading this post, I realise that all the flames I diverted in the last post are now going to roll over me again, but I just can't resist. >.>
The fact that you think any response you may receive in this discussion regarding this topic is automatically "flaming" you indicates the core problem with your perception to the issue. By the context of your own words, I have already been accused and condemned for attacking you without ever having said anything of the sort. Why do you continue to act defensively when there is no offense? I'm not going to engage you in a fight if that's what you're spoiling for. I am willing to discuss the issue, which is why I bothered to point it out in the first place instead of letting the ignorance continue.
That particular line was a very poor attempt at banter. I was, simply put, unsure of how you'd view my post. I know that some people can be very touchy about this kind of subject, and given my earlier mess-up, I tried to work in something amusing to break the ice. I did not see it in the way that any response you made was going to be flaming.
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05 Aug 2011, 9:50 pm
