Do dateless men have a right to be picky?

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It's so nice to hear you say that.

I used to be a member of Ediets.com, a weight loss website. I used to visit the message boards there. I read numberous messages from females posters that said that once they lost weight that guys who previously ignored them or poked fun at them now wanted to hit on them now that they were thinner. These women say that they shoot these guys down every time. One woman said, "If you weren't interested in me when I was bigger, then don't come talking to me now." I don't blame these women for feeling this way. I'd shoot those guys down, too.

I wonder if it is a case those woman hating men. Would they understand why those men behave that way they do? If they did I wonder if they would behave the same way? Is it me or doesn’t anyone understand the laws of evolution.

Do those woman think that if man was to go out with woman regardless of their looks, that it wouldn’t have no consequences and the world would be a happier place. Fatter woman inherit many health and reproductive problems a man is subconsciously looking for a healthy woman to have children with, this is the case regardless of whether he want a child or not.

MORALITY WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC TRUTH TO BACK IT UP IS ERROUNIOUS

Most women would not want to date a man who used to poke fun at her and rejected her when she was fatter and who now all of a sudden wants to date her now that she is thinner and in better shape. What woman in her right mind would want to date somebody that used to mistreat them.

It seems that some of the men on this forum always want to say there is some biological or evolutionary reason for why they choose the women they do. I think its a bunch of crap. I don't buy any of it. I think they just use it as an excuse to be shallow. Maybe that crap worked thousands of years ago out in the bush. But look at your calendars! It is 2006! Most of us live in a civilized and industrialized society. Leave all that biological and evolutionary junk in the past.

I was overweight in school and well actually only a little heavy but I thought I was just horrible. In my parents words I became anorexic, not sure if I was, but I did end up weighing 89 lbs. I did have to exercise at least 2 hours a day and eat only one meal a day to lose that much weight. It was amazing how many girls and guys were suddenly speaking to me. I admit I truly enjoyed ignoring them and even cussing out a few of the guys. I didn't change my friends, but continued to be friends with the ones that had been nice to me from the beginning. One thing the experience taught me is people are shallow. Those that ignore you just because you weigh more than the current anorexic runway model are worthless scumbags. They probably are the ones that turn into abusers anyway.

I do see your point however you can only argue from that standpoint if you have perfect, or near perfect genes yourself. You are right in that heavy people tend to make heavy children but also Aspies tend to make other Aspies or Auties. If I was going to make babies I would never chose an Aspie partner because in my opinion it is immoral to make another autistic person. None of us have it easy and some have it really bad. So why put someone else here to suffer? Most Aspies and Auties do not work so why place another burdon on the welfare system either.

This is not meant to be disrespectful its just to tell you guys to get off your high horses. It doesn't matter if you are lucky enough to be a half way decent looking Aspie male who is slim or not, if you are an Aspie you are not God's gift to the gene pool. Neither am I. So this revoluntionary theory about not wanting to breed with fat people is irrelevant because you aren't good reproduction material yourselves and all women AS and NT can pick up on this very easily. So best work on your personalities because nothing else is going to get you anywhere. Learn to treat all people well regardless of what they look like.

Works both ways - if I built more muscle, got a great tan, and had the money to buy a wardrobe (well, had someone else do it do dress me up more like a fratboy) I'd have a lot of women checking me out who'd right now be giving me dirty looks just for being there. From a personal perspective its real easy to get pissed as heck and see these people as worthless vultures, unfortunately though again it just goes back to what we are and what governs our ability to find a person attractive - we're apes and that has more pull on our emotions and feelings than anything we ever try to manufacture. In friendships we can overlook stupid stuff like that for personality, in sexual relationships though it doesn't matter how well the book reads - no one will buy it if the cover isn't as good or better and many people will only care about the cover.

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Not everyone believes that autism is a disease. Maybe things would be different if MORE people had autism. I think one of the hardest things about growing up was not having someone like me around. If I'd had someone who understood me, I'd never have stopped being interested in my peers. The reason I became antisocial was because I don't like most people, it might have been completely different if I knew people like me.




[edit] techstepgenr8tion exposed as a edit freak!! !! !! !! !

Here's what's getting missed here - attraction or lack thereof is NOT a personal choice and NOT a result strictly of a shallow mind. Men, women, neither are better than the next just that both manifest their own eugenicism in different ways - men tend toward women with looks who are shapely and either have feminine demeanor or can really be on page with them, women tend toward either cowboys, gentleman thugs, extreme sports types, status, muscle, and money (aka. alpha male). Figuring that the animal/caveman/cavewoman parts of our brains are the same parts that control motivation, emotion, and are the same things that street drugs trigger good feelings in it just goes to show which part of our brains will always have more control in these circumstances.

Regardless of religion, not being able to accept the evolutionary animal basis of what we are (unless you've really had the luck not to have to face it yourself) is an almost surefire way to die really unhappy and jaded because anything else will set unrealistic expectations and the opposit sex will continue to and never fail at letting you down in that case. I wish what my parents and church raised me on till I was 20 or so, the idea what we're completely human, not animal, and have total control over our drives or be able to pray our way out of them, were true but its not and all that comes down to is us trying to assert something over ourselves that we as human beings don't have full rights to control. I wish that were true but you know what they say.... you can wish in one hand, do something else in the other, and see which hand fills up faster.

Ok, this is a double from the site jamming up - and apparently you can only 'delete your own posts', lol silly me

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Techno if you could think for a minute and go back to that time in boyhood when you felt that way would you have REALLY been responsive to someone else like yourself if they had been around? I ask because I've thought of offering to befriend a boy who has Aspergers whose mom is at her wit's end trying to help him. Similar to the Big Brother/Big Sister program but this would be like being an Aspie mentor. If someone is already anti-social wouldn't they reject even another person just like them? I have a feeling they would.

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Yeah we must be overwhelming the server. The board sends to have crashed several times the past hour. I don't understand why my quotes don't always work though.

The reason why they aren't working is that you didn't close the quotation marks in the quote tag.

I noticed that you had this in your post:


It would have worked if you did this:



Notice the difference: the " before the ] in the second code line.

Hope this helps.

Oh thanks! I knew it must be something really simple like that.

I'm reposting this because I think everyone is arguing pointlessly. It's not about whether you're so pathetic that you have to lower your standards but rather having the right standards to meet the right women.

I understand your point on not wanting to go out with someone who previously disrespected them.

It might be 2006 but I don’t honestly think that we have suddenly evolved to survive best in it. We have so many biological ties with the past, it is just unbelievable. Me as a logical minded aspie am not going to ignore them, and call them lies.

Why do many women still go for the muscular guy an age when muscles are not really need?

Why do man generally find big book woman more attractive when breast feeding children is not longer necessary because of powdered baby milk.

Why do so many woman find the bad boy type of person attractive even in an age where being a bad boy is at a disadvantage in society compared to how things was back in caveman time where survival of the nastiest was more important.

Why do many of us have craving for high energy foods( high calorie with loads of fat and sugar), when we don’t need to get fat for the winter anymore like the bears still need to.

Just because you might consider that we are better off without the scientific knowledge of human behaviour, does not mean that it is a lie. Seeing the truth in all its ugly form is what I am all about. I am not an NT I don’t have to live a lie. If you don’t like the ugly unromantic views of science then it is time to create your own morality based on mythology not science or better still become religious?