02 Sep 2011, 8:13 pm
hale_bopp wrote:
Dionysus wrote:
OldFashioned wrote:
To the others. When I like a girl it's not because of her clothes, it's her personality, smile, face, eyes etc... Clothing is just the step towards making her perfect!
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it.
It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it.
It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.Now I am a prole, but how is "How do you do" better than 'pleased to meet you' let alone the correct way of doing things? Is that an American deep south thing or something? I'm fairly sure there's more to class than bizarrely obnoxious pedantry.
As soon as I read that it made me think his parents have a severe problem. It's just outright stupid.
Edit: his parents aren't even rich? WTF??? Are they even educated?
Dude, sort out your family issues before you date. Please. An upper class girl will never date you if you're not actually upper class. Wanting to change who you can get isn't the problem here. Your unhealthy family issues are.
Members of the gentry and noblemen are of much higher rank than the Upper Classes who are mostly newly rich business men whose ancestors were just common men and peasants. Members of the Gentry and Noblemen are of higher blood and status and so need not be wealthy.
But we're not here to discuss class, while most of you might probably think that it is a travesty that the nobility exists it is no less of a travesty for many noblemen that common people have access to education, social security and so on. I myself will not take sides in this conflict nor will I discuss the issue. I am what I am and if you don't like it go post on some other thread.
I think you all seem to misunderstand me. I have nothing against working class girls or middle class girls or whatever. I was just looking for advice on how to influence a woman's way to dress. I got your point now, you think it's bad. But I don't think it is as long as it is not forced upon her.
I am sure there are subtle ways to get her into that lovely red dress which you think would suit her really well, aren't there?
And for your information I have had crushes on working class girls with Bristol Dockworker accents before.
The gentry and the nobility lives and abides by a certain code of dress, morals and behaviours which you will not find in any etiquette book. It is something you are raised in and so you have certain standards, expectations and reservations as do my parents. I do not share these views but I don't want my parents to be unhappy.
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02 Sep 2011, 8:22 pm
OldFashioned wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Dionysus wrote:
OldFashioned wrote:
To the others. When I like a girl it's not because of her clothes, it's her personality, smile, face, eyes etc... Clothing is just the step towards making her perfect!
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it. It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it.
It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.Now I am a prole, but how is "How do you do" better than 'pleased to meet you' let alone the correct way of doing things? Is that an American deep south thing or something? I'm fairly sure there's more to class than bizarrely obnoxious pedantry.
As soon as I read that it made me think his parents have a severe problem. It's just outright stupid.
Edit: his parents aren't even rich? WTF??? Are they even educated?
Dude, sort out your family issues before you date. Please. An upper class girl will never date you if you're not actually upper class. Wanting to change who you can get isn't the problem here. Your unhealthy family issues are.
Members of the gentry and noblemen are of much higher rank than the Upper Classes who are mostly newly rich business men whose ancestors were just common men and peasants. Members of the Gentry and Noblemen are of higher blood and status and so need not be wealthy.
But we're not here to discuss class, while most of you might probably think that it is a travesty that the nobility exists it is no less of a travesty for many noblemen that common people have access to education, social security and so on. I myself will not take sides in this conflict nor will I discuss the issue. I am what I am and if you don't like it go post on some other thread.
I think you all seem to misunderstand me. I have nothing against working class girls or middle class girls or whatever. I was just looking for advice on how to influence a woman's way to dress. I got your point now, you think it's bad. But I don't think it is as long as it is not forced upon her.
I am sure there are subtle ways to get her into that lovely red dress which you think would suit her really well, aren't there?
And for your information I have had crushes on working class girls with Bristol Dockworker accents before.
The gentry and the nobility lives and abides by a certain code of dress, morals and behaviours which you will not find in any etiquette book. It is something you are raised in and so you have certain standards, expectations and reservations as do my parents. I do not share these views but I don't want my parents to be unhappy.
Well is there anything in your life other than your parents...seriously it is up to you, but you would probably be happier if you made choices based on what you want not what they want.
02 Sep 2011, 8:40 pm
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02 Sep 2011, 9:11 pm
02 Sep 2011, 9:32 pm
OldFashioned wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Dionysus wrote:
OldFashioned wrote:
To the others. When I like a girl it's not because of her clothes, it's her personality, smile, face, eyes etc... Clothing is just the step towards making her perfect!
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it. It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it.
It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.Now I am a prole, but how is "How do you do" better than 'pleased to meet you' let alone the correct way of doing things? Is that an American deep south thing or something? I'm fairly sure there's more to class than bizarrely obnoxious pedantry.
As soon as I read that it made me think his parents have a severe problem. It's just outright stupid.
Edit: his parents aren't even rich? WTF??? Are they even educated?
Dude, sort out your family issues before you date. Please. An upper class girl will never date you if you're not actually upper class. Wanting to change who you can get isn't the problem here. Your unhealthy family issues are.
Members of the gentry and noblemen are of much higher rank than the Upper Classes who are mostly newly rich business men whose ancestors were just common men and peasants. Members of the Gentry and Noblemen are of higher blood and status and so need not be wealthy.
But we're not here to discuss class, while most of you might probably think that it is a travesty that the nobility exists it is no less of a travesty for many noblemen that common people have access to education, social security and so on. I myself will not take sides in this conflict nor will I discuss the issue. I am what I am and if you don't like it go post on some other thread.
I think you all seem to misunderstand me. I have nothing against working class girls or middle class girls or whatever. I was just looking for advice on how to influence a woman's way to dress. I got your point now, you think it's bad. But I don't think it is as long as it is not forced upon her.
I am sure there are subtle ways to get her into that lovely red dress which you think would suit her really well, aren't there?
And for your information I have had crushes on working class girls with Bristol Dockworker accents before.
The gentry and the nobility lives and abides by a certain code of dress, morals and behaviours which you will not find in any etiquette book. It is something you are raised in and so you have certain standards, expectations and reservations as do my parents. I do not share these views but I don't want my parents to be unhappy.
Accept her for the way she is or look for someone else. Simple.
Why do care so much about what your parents think? Your username suits you.
03 Sep 2011, 10:01 am
OldFashioned wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Dionysus wrote:
OldFashioned wrote:
To the others. When I like a girl it's not because of her clothes, it's her personality, smile, face, eyes etc... Clothing is just the step towards making her perfect!
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it. It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.
As for my parents, clothes are not the main issue, it's behaviour. They'd have a heart attack if she said 'Pleased to meet you' instead of 'How do you do?' which is the way to do it.
It's not my choice, it's my family, they have expectations and I would feel bad if I disappointed them. How people view and judge me has a huge impact on how I feel.Now I am a prole, but how is "How do you do" better than 'pleased to meet you' let alone the correct way of doing things? Is that an American deep south thing or something? I'm fairly sure there's more to class than bizarrely obnoxious pedantry.
As soon as I read that it made me think his parents have a severe problem. It's just outright stupid.
Edit: his parents aren't even rich? WTF??? Are they even educated?
Dude, sort out your family issues before you date. Please. An upper class girl will never date you if you're not actually upper class. Wanting to change who you can get isn't the problem here. Your unhealthy family issues are.
Members of the gentry and noblemen are of much higher rank than the Upper Classes who are mostly newly rich business men whose ancestors were just common men and peasants. Members of the Gentry and Noblemen are of higher blood and status and so need not be wealthy.
But we're not here to discuss class, while most of you might probably think that it is a travesty that the nobility exists it is no less of a travesty for many noblemen that common people have access to education, social security and so on.
Many noblemen are fuckwits then. They are that threatened by the commoners being able to learn?
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