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21 Sep 2011, 7:22 pm

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Someone jumped all over me when I posted in one of my (not infrequent) whiny moods the other day - and even accused me of being a troll! It felt like a serious breach of etiquette. There's plenty of places you can go to have someone tell you to "f*ck off", but WP shouldn't be one of them - ignore the post if it bothers you so much, don't kick someone when they're down...

just ignore the meanies as best you can. treat them as noisily obnoxious barking dogs, you wouldn't get all worked up over a dog barking at you, would you? the people who kick others that are down and out, have some bad karma coming to them. i would not want to be them at such a time.

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21 Sep 2011, 8:18 pm

auntblabby wrote:

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that is just a slippery slope statement. just because a person has existential complaints does not automatically lead into victimization of others.

ah, but the vast generalizations made against women are just fine, eh? No slippery slope there...just 'existential complaints'. And no, it doesn't automatically lead to victimization (but that's a strawman, isn't it). Only when everyone in the echo chamber validates that world view and reinforces it does it lead to victimization. In the short time I've been here, I've read threats of violence against women by members. And I've seen verbal abuse directed at members who are merely trying to help others. One can embrace those who negatively generalize women (and men, for that matter) and pretend it helps the poster; one can even stay silent and pretend it helps. But it doesn't. It only reinforces the downward spiral.

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21 Sep 2011, 8:56 pm

I don't know any other aspies besides on here...

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21 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

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Fnord wrote:

More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...

Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S

No ... this list is of things that Aspies do that make me mad. Well, things that embarrass me for being an Aspie. I mean, do certain Aspies have to put out more drama than a Telemundo soap opera? And if an Aspie has to ask if most Aspies are like this, then how much more does it seem to an Entie that all Aspies are like this?

... Especially that websites like WP are the only real contact that many Enties have with Aspies in any sense of social discourse.

I dunno ... it's like when one of the other engineers (who is African-American) seems to want to hide when some of the African-Americans on the production floor start acting like a bunch of "Boyz In Da Hood" stereotypes. I know that some Aspies can't help it, but it's still embarrassing when some clueless Entie points at a some herp-de-derp emo and says "Typical ass-pur-jer...", even though his cluelessness concerns the fact that an Aspie is standing right next to him (me).

No, I'm not going to "come out" just to have him turn against me as well.

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21 Sep 2011, 11:04 pm

AsteroidNap wrote:

To be complicit in that, without speaking up, is to enable that negative world view to the detriment of the speaker.

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So then in your mind it's the perfectly noble thing to do to listen to someone complain and rant about the 'evils of feminism' or other such b.s., and to turn a blind eye to that? I'm not going to coddle. I'm not going to be another voice in the echo chamber of discontent. Let's complain about Jews next, or...uhm..Blacks...or pick any other identifiable group. I'm not going to validate that negativity. If that makes me cold, then I'm the coldest-hearted bastard you'll ever meet.

But having said that, an individual, complaining in specific terms about a specific problem, is another issue entirely...a guy lamenting a break up with his girlfriend...a girl agonizing over why her bf won't communicate...those are complaints that are actualized in reality, not generalized fantasies. I can offer utmost sympathy and compassion for those individuals...and have.

quoted lotsa truths here. individuals with specific problems are one thing, but flaming hate directed at a gender (or race or religious group) is another animal.

The Haven is specially designed for people to vent frustration. i do not understand how anyone benefits when posters come into advice threads to spread bitterness: it doesn't do the individual any good, it doesn't do the OP asking for advice any good, it doesn't do the other contributors any good. it polarises people into arguments, it creates a hostile and negative environment where large numbers of people feel unwelcome - all for the sake of that person's "venting".

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22 Sep 2011, 12:55 am

Use too many words and hog the microphone
STFU would really benefit many who engage in dissipative rhetoric

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22 Sep 2011, 8:33 am

I suffered the worst abuse from aspies who didn't know they were aspies. They'd point the finger at me for being different and then they'd group with people who didn't even want to be with them and try to convince the group what a weirdo I was. The group would buy it at first and then when they got to know the "finger pointer" they ousted them straight OUT of the group...and then that same "finger pointer" would blame me and actually get violent because they couldn't make it in the NT world. Such anger because they were "stuck" with me.
Well the day came when I punched back and set myself free from all those aspies who do this.
There is nothing more ridiculous than an aspie trying to "act" NT. I'm biracial and I've seen blacks do this to other blacks if they were in a white majority. Acting white and dishing out a lot of disrespect and contempt for other blacks...as if they themself were not even black...people have eyes! It's disgusting! People do this in all walks of life. Taking the attention off of themselves and magnifying every mistake of an individual in order to exclude them. "WE in and YOU'RE out kind of deal." I say go into overdrive and kick their asses!! ! If someone is going to dis you, then give them a damned good reason to do it!

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22 Sep 2011, 8:51 am

RightGalaxy wrote:

wow, thats kinda sick really.... and so common aye.

'Full NT emulation mode' is what auntblabby once called it.

I hope your so called friend who turned you in, gets to feel the shame of being a traitor to his own people

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22 Sep 2011, 10:44 am

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I suffered the worst abuse from aspies who didn't know they were aspies.

If they didn't know, then how did you know?

Maybe they were just clueless jerks.

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22 Sep 2011, 7:18 pm

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Blame women and ignore the fact that they have unappealing qualities.

This. Or when they paint all women with the same biased brush because they are unable to get dates. The problem isn't with the women, it's their attitudes.

There is nothing more unattractive than a guy who generalizes and thinks you'll act in certain ways when they've never even met you.

It's not because of my attitude, it's because of me being a pathetic bum. I'm ugly, slow, poor, un-charismatic, uneducated, friendless and jobless. I'm a 25 year old hermit that does nothing but sit in the house, watch anime, porn, and play video games all day.

That's why I'm hopeless at dating

You write as if it where a bad thing

You sound like myself and many of the men here :wink:

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22 Sep 2011, 7:28 pm

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The elitism mindset and discrimination against "NT's". In some cases it seems so extreme to me that I can draw parallels with Nazi Germany. This really angers and upsets me. Every person is unique. There is no "us" versus "them" in any context.

That's a bit stretch , their are more parallels between eating animals and Nazism Peta where on the money with their 'Holocaust on your plate' how do you think Hitler was able to exterminate so many Jews in such a short period of time ?

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22 Sep 2011, 9:03 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

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Yeah this sucks. People who do this are morons.

Even so, if you understand where "Nazi Germany" came from, this shouldn't be a surprise and easy to understand. The only reason Hitler came to power was because of Versailles. That treaty signed after WWI was the only thing every german believed was unfair oppression of them, and Hitler promised a way out of Versailles, using nationalistic pick-me-ups such as racial superiority doctrine. "Nazi Germany" wasn't some demonic tide brought forth by black mages, it was the predictable social response of a nation that felt it had lost it's dignity.

Those aspies you're talking about feel the very same way, so what'd you expect?

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23 Sep 2011, 3:39 am

Don't Get Mad. Get Glad. :idea: I don't know many other aspies, but there was a guy who served at a restaurant with me who was very probing & gossipy. I didn't really get mad, i just don't prefer people I don't know well to be in my business. He didn't do anything an NT wasn't capable of :wink:

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23 Sep 2011, 4:43 am

When they associate everything they say, do and think on having AS, without no evidence that anybody could just think say, do or think this particular thing. Also when they attribute every single feature on their body on having AS, as though they're thinking that all NTs are built this way and all Aspies are built that way. Ohh, it's so annoying!! !! !! !! !!

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24 Sep 2011, 12:38 am

Fnord wrote:

8. Believe that being an Aspie has a causal connection with issues of gender identity.

In my case, there most certainly is a connection between my Asperger's and my GID issues.

Can't be helped. If it embarrasses you, or any other Aspies, to be associated with me........oh well.

I guess we won't be "hanging" any time soon.

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24 Sep 2011, 1:49 am

Their ignorant opinions leave me no doubt why they don't have any friends or girlfriends.

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