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07 Oct 2011, 3:30 pm

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Could you realistically see yourself ever hanging out with, let alone dating a person I'm about describe. You probably wouldn't even want to be in a room alone with a person for an extended period of time.

The person is extremely ugly to begin with, and you can tell he's pretty slow and stupid by the way he acts, talks, and looks. His social skills are pretty jacked up, he spaces out at times and stares at random objects without knowing.

Here's the main thing; He has no knowledge and can't debate anything related to: politics, philosophy, art, evolution, religion, history, science, etc. The person knows this and keeps trying bring up his interests to start a conversation. Anime, video games, and random stuff happening on tv or the web.

I mean wouldn't you get very irritated, annoyed, and repulsed at the simple-mindedness of this person and try to avoid him at all cost?

Add that the person is a poor, friendless, uneducated (sped) hermit that still lives with his parents. Also, he can barely bathe himself and lives off SSI and foodstamps.

Wouldn't most women here consider a person like that a pathetic dumb loser that has no shot in hell at getting a date?




Would you date someone who thought you were ugly, slow and stupid, and didn't know anything useful? I hope not. You should have your standards too.



So you just basically asked me would I hang out with or date myself? The answer is a resounding no, as I've said pretty much in every post that I've made since I've been on this site.

That post just proves that I'm pathetic, repulsive, good for nothing, loser that should just off himself.


No, I asked you if you would date someone who thought so lowly of you.


I don't get what you're trying to say. If they thought that low of me, then why would they even be interested in a date with me?


Why would somebody date you if they thought lowly of you? There is no good reason. But there might be a bad reason. Somebody who was willing to date you even though they disliked you probably would have some evil plan in store for you. So that wouldn't be a good idea.

You continuosly insist that you are ugly, uneducated and poor. Trying to talk you out of that has proved unsuccesful so I won't try. Instead I'll say that you should perhaps try to date a woman who is also ugly, uneducated and poor. Probably several such women live within walking distance to you right now.

But here's the bigger issue? If such a woman wanted to date you, what would you do on the date? You can't invite her over to your house to listen to you complain about how she'll never want to date you again after spending time with you. So what exactly would you do? If you can't think up a serious answer to this question, then what is the point of wanting a girlfriend?


I'm in a pretty bad neighborhood, so that wouldn't be wise. I'm always on alert here for suspicious people passing my house, and it's one of the reasons that I haven't left my house in the past few years. I was robbed at gun point in my house a few years ago. My sister was traumatized, and I'll bet that's what led to her breakdown. It made more hard for me to trust people, as the person was friends with someone I used to hang out with.

I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.



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07 Oct 2011, 3:35 pm

MR20 wrote:
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Could you realistically see yourself ever hanging out with, let alone dating a person I'm about describe. You probably wouldn't even want to be in a room alone with a person for an extended period of time.

The person is extremely ugly to begin with, and you can tell he's pretty slow and stupid by the way he acts, talks, and looks. His social skills are pretty jacked up, he spaces out at times and stares at random objects without knowing.

Here's the main thing; He has no knowledge and can't debate anything related to: politics, philosophy, art, evolution, religion, history, science, etc. The person knows this and keeps trying bring up his interests to start a conversation. Anime, video games, and random stuff happening on tv or the web.

I mean wouldn't you get very irritated, annoyed, and repulsed at the simple-mindedness of this person and try to avoid him at all cost?

Add that the person is a poor, friendless, uneducated (sped) hermit that still lives with his parents. Also, he can barely bathe himself and lives off SSI and foodstamps.

Wouldn't most women here consider a person like that a pathetic dumb loser that has no shot in hell at getting a date?




Would you date someone who thought you were ugly, slow and stupid, and didn't know anything useful? I hope not. You should have your standards too.



So you just basically asked me would I hang out with or date myself? The answer is a resounding no, as I've said pretty much in every post that I've made since I've been on this site.

That post just proves that I'm pathetic, repulsive, good for nothing, loser that should just off himself.


No, I asked you if you would date someone who thought so lowly of you.


I don't get what you're trying to say. If they thought that low of me, then why would they even be interested in a date with me?


Why would somebody date you if they thought lowly of you? There is no good reason. But there might be a bad reason. Somebody who was willing to date you even though they disliked you probably would have some evil plan in store for you. So that wouldn't be a good idea.

You continuosly insist that you are ugly, uneducated and poor. Trying to talk you out of that has proved unsuccesful so I won't try. Instead I'll say that you should perhaps try to date a woman who is also ugly, uneducated and poor. Probably several such women live within walking distance to you right now.

But here's the bigger issue? If such a woman wanted to date you, what would you do on the date? You can't invite her over to your house to listen to you complain about how she'll never want to date you again after spending time with you. So what exactly would you do? If you can't think up a serious answer to this question, then what is the point of wanting a girlfriend?


I'm in a pretty bad neighborhood, so that wouldn't be wise. I'm always on alert here for suspicious people passing my house, and it's one of the reasons that I haven't left my house in the past few years. I was robbed at gun point in my house a few years ago. My sister was traumatized, and I'll bet that's what led to her breakdown. It made more hard for me to trust people, as the person was friends with someone I used to hang out with.

I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.


Ahh, this explains a lot :!:


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07 Oct 2011, 3:40 pm

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I'm in a pretty bad neighborhood, so that wouldn't be wise. I'm always on alert here for suspicious people passing my house, and it's one of the reasons that I haven't left my house in the past few years. I was robbed at gun point in my house a few years ago. My sister was traumatized, and I'll bet that's what led to her breakdown. It made more hard for me to trust people, as the person was friends with someone I used to hang out with.

I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.

i've had a break-in while i was alone in the house with my child, and on a separate occasion i have been robbed at gunpoint. i also had someone loosen the bolts on the front tires of our car, and i had to stop an assailant who assaulted my husband on the front lawn while my baby was in the house (we lived in the projects). there were other things i don't want to talk about here.

yes, all this was traumatic, but therapy helped. there is free therapy out there if you look. there is always a possibility of getting past traumatic experiences if you work at it. otherwise the criminals have won.


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07 Oct 2011, 3:49 pm

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Adapt? How?


You take a piece of your routine and you lay it down in a manner that corrects the problem.

I come back to hygiene because it is the easiest correction to make and the one that will, frankly, yield the most bang for the least effort. Clipping fingernails and cutting hair and shaving and showering and doing laundry all require a schedule. I say this from personal experience. If a schedule is what it takes, you make a schedule.

It took me a while to get into a routine of going out and interacting with humanity every day. I had a stretch after college where I was unemployed (more accurately, unemployable) and living at home and no one was pushing me to do much. I remember the one day I was talking to a neighbor and he told me, "Hell, I haven't seen you in so long I figured you moved out." I realized that I had to make a concerted effort to drag my ass out of the house every day, whether I liked it or not, even if I was dying of pneumonia.

When you meet people, you have to work on making eye contact and not being avoidant. Once you get a feel for that, work on nodding toward them, acknowledging their presence. Then you work on saying hello to everyone who returns the acknowledgment. Then you work on responding to small talk. Good practice can be had trying to say something funny to cashiers, waitresses, bartenders, etc. when they ask you how you're doing. And you just keep building and building layers of social interaction until you get to the point that you can say hello to anyone and BS a bit in any situation.

I treat it like a game. Well, anymore I treat like really interesting research. I quite enjoy watching humanity. I quite enjoy seeing how they respond to each other and to me.

As for interests, I'm sorry, but you have no right to expect humanity to take an interest in you if you don't take an interest in them. You're expecting them to come to you at no social or emotional cost to yourself. It doesn't work that way.

What price are you willing to pay to not feel lonely?

For me, once I got in the habit of socializing, I found the cost of emotional discomfort is paid back several fold by the simple value of what humanity offers. It's nice to have neighbors watch out for your house when you're gone. It's nice to have people say hello to you when you're waiting in line. But, you have to meet them on their terms.


I'm not arguing about my interests anymore.

Look not everyone can be strong-willed and capable as you. It seems like you're trying project your situation on to me and I think that's a mistake. We are nothing alike. You're good looking (I presume), confident, interesting, strong-willed, mentally tough, not slow and/or stupid, and you have an education. I am none/have none of those things.


I was born inferior, and I don't think I'm capable of the stuff you mentioned, and your advice probably wouldn't work for me.



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07 Oct 2011, 4:04 pm

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I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.


This is why it's a bad idea to date somebody who thinks lowly of you, per Chronos. They are just dating you because they have some terrible plan in store.

Ok, so local women are not an option because you fear they might be setting you up? How about an online relationship where you never physically meet but only chat? That removes all the concerns about being set up as well as the concerns about looks, money and education. The only thing left is thinking of something to say other than how terrible you are.

What I'm trying to figure out is what you would do if a magician granted your wish and a woman was interested in you? What would you say? Where would you go? And if she's purely online, what would you talk about?



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07 Oct 2011, 4:36 pm

I'm facepalming so hard my face hurts 8O

I don't know why I don't ignore your posts, I really don't. You aren't born inferior, nobody is. You just have a weak mentality that you like to hold onto.

I swear on my life this is the last time I will reply to one of your posts. Seriously if you're going to make threads and post in other peoples threads about your "self-imposed" misery, fine. But soon it will fall on deaf ears and your self-fulfilling prophecy of your life will continue to manifest.

Good day

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07 Oct 2011, 5:00 pm

Janissy wrote:
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I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.


This is why it's a bad idea to date somebody who thinks lowly of you, per Chronos. They are just dating you because they have some terrible plan in store.

Ok, so local women are not an option because you fear they might be setting you up? How about an online relationship where you never physically meet but only chat? That removes all the concerns about being set up as well as the concerns about looks, money and education. The only thing left is thinking of something to say other than how terrible you are.

What I'm trying to figure out is what you would do if a magician granted your wish and a woman was interested in you? What would you say? Where would you go? And if she's purely online, what would you talk about?


If something like that were to happen, (very unlikely) here's how I would go about things.

1. I would rarely message or contact her to avoid irritating her, heck I probably wouldn't talk to her unless if she messaged me first.

2. I would try to mask my severe lack of knowledge, and me being slow and stupid by avoiding a lot of topics and try to bring up my interests in most conversations. I would try to get her to talk about how her day went, how was school/work etc.

3. I would try to end conversations and say I have somewhere to be (obvious lie) to avoid the overwhelming pressure of trying to be interesting and finding things to talk about.

4. After a few weeks, if she's still trying to message me, I would probably block her and ignore all future messages.

I'd just try to get out in front of the inevitable, because once they find out the truth (that I'm a pathetic, boring, slow, and stupid loser} it would be all over anyway.

I figure this would the best thing to do, since it would be saving her the awkwardness of having to do it herself. I'd actually be doing her a favor.



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07 Oct 2011, 6:28 pm

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I definitely wouldn't trust the women over here. Once they realize how slow, stupid and clueless I am, what's to stop them from taking advantage of me and getting their thug friends to break into my house and take everything that isn't nailed down.


This is why it's a bad idea to date somebody who thinks lowly of you, per Chronos. They are just dating you because they have some terrible plan in store.

Ok, so local women are not an option because you fear they might be setting you up? How about an online relationship where you never physically meet but only chat? That removes all the concerns about being set up as well as the concerns about looks, money and education. The only thing left is thinking of something to say other than how terrible you are.

What I'm trying to figure out is what you would do if a magician granted your wish and a woman was interested in you? What would you say? Where would you go? And if she's purely online, what would you talk about?


If something like that were to happen, (very unlikely) here's how I would go about things.

1. I would rarely message or contact her to avoid irritating her, heck I probably wouldn't talk to her unless if she messaged me first.

2. I would try to mask my severe lack of knowledge, and me being slow and stupid by avoiding a lot of topics and try to bring up my interests in most conversations. I would try to get her to talk about how her day went, how was school/work etc.

3. I would try to end conversations and say I have somewhere to be (obvious lie) to avoid the overwhelming pressure of trying to be interesting and finding things to talk about.

4. After a few weeks, if she's still trying to message me, I would probably block her and ignore all future messages.

I'd just try to get out in front of the inevitable, because once they find out the truth (that I'm a pathetic, boring, slow, and stupid loser} it would be all over anyway.

I figure this would the best thing to do, since it would be saving her the awkwardness of having to do it herself. I'd actually be doing her a favor.


That was a witty and depressing answer to my question. But still witty. If you apply that wit to pretty much any topic except your problems, you will be a great conversationalist. I hope you try that in the future.



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07 Oct 2011, 6:48 pm

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4. After a few weeks, if she's still trying to message me, I would probably block her and ignore all future messages.

I'd just try to get out in front of the inevitable, because once they find out the truth (that I'm a pathetic, boring, slow, and stupid loser} it would be all over anyway.

So, basically, you'd throw away a girlfriend who fell out of the sky and into your lap.

Why worry about getting a girlfriend if you don't want one?

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I figure this would the best thing to do, since it would be saving her the awkwardness of having to do it herself. I'd actually be doing her a favor.

If a girl were actually interested in you, this would not be doing her a favor.

I'm not going to quote any of the (mostly excellent) advice you've gotten in this thread. I'll just ask about your interests. What anime do you like? Why? Which video games do you play? Why those games? Are you good at them?


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07 Oct 2011, 7:02 pm

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07 Oct 2011, 8:38 pm

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4. After a few weeks, if she's still trying to message me, I would probably block her and ignore all future messages.

I'd just try to get out in front of the inevitable, because once they find out the truth (that I'm a pathetic, boring, slow, and stupid loser} it would be all over anyway.

So, basically, you'd throw away a girlfriend who fell out of the sky and into your lap.

Why worry about getting a girlfriend if you don't want one?

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I figure this would the best thing to do, since it would be saving her the awkwardness of having to do it herself. I'd actually be doing her a favor.

If a girl were actually interested in you, this would not be doing her a favor.

I'm not going to quote any of the (mostly excellent) advice you've gotten in this thread. I'll just ask about your interests. What anime do you like? Why? Which video games do you play? Why those games? Are you good at them?


This is purely hypothetical, just to remind you. Why would a girl be interested in me online in the first place? Would she be attracted to the way I post? :lol: I don't ever post pics of myself online because I don't have a camera, and I don't trust people. How would she know what looked like? We obviously wouldn't connect on a intellectual level. What would we talk about? No one wants to talk about anime, video games, and random things on tv and the internet all the time. Odds are she won't interested in half of those things anyway.

I wouldn't be throwing away a GF, because I wouldn't have one since she's not really interested in me.

As for my interest, I like different genres of anime. I don't really feel like writing an essay on all the different types anime that watch and why. Same with video games.



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07 Oct 2011, 8:43 pm

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I don't get it



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07 Oct 2011, 8:51 pm

It seems to me that you have bigger problems than not being able to get a date. You're right... I wouldn't want to associate with any of the women who would probably want to date you, and you probably shouldn't either. What you should do, is get the f**k out of your house and at least make some attempt to get an education or a job, or to do something with your life.



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07 Oct 2011, 9:12 pm

If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. The nature of that stopping is in your hands for now.

You seem to be hoping that we'll tell you something pretty and easy. But I can't think of anything. You'll need to find some motivation or suffer what comes.



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07 Oct 2011, 10:52 pm

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If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. The nature of that stopping is in your hands for now.

You seem to be hoping that we'll tell you something pretty and easy. But I can't think of anything. You'll need to find some motivation or suffer what comes.


What about suicide? That's a way out, and I don't have to keep suffering for the rest of my pathetic life.



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07 Oct 2011, 10:57 pm

If you're ready for suicide, why not just throw it all to the wind and do something crazy? f**k it, go hop the rails or something.