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01 Oct 2006, 7:52 pm

In observing the way females dress, you should remember that many are slaves to fashion, and often fashion is of a highly provocative nature. If it weren't for the sensory issues of the gross fabrics most fashionable clothes are made of, I might dress that way myself :oops: ... the pull is that strong! I like the way the clothes look but can't stand the way they feel, thus I dress not exactly haute couture :lol:.

So they are dressing that way not to torment men... they are dressing that way to mimic models on TV and in magazines.



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01 Oct 2006, 8:03 pm

It's fine wearing those clothes so long as your not doing it solely to lead men on.



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01 Oct 2006, 8:04 pm

It's a complex scenario, there's so much that goes into it. I'll probably explain it tommarrow when I have more time on my hands.



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01 Oct 2006, 8:09 pm

I am trying to remember, if, in my 5 years of living in female dormitories, I ever heard girls say that they dressed provacatively specifically to torment men. I don't think I ever heard this. Many definitely thought they would ATTRACT a man dressing in that manner, but I don't think the intent was ever to tease or torment. I think they felt the males enjoyed just looking, and would like them more if they dressed that way.



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01 Oct 2006, 10:27 pm

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You seem to believe that women deliberately look sexy just to provoke you. So are you saying that all women should go around wearing full-length robes JUST so you won't get turned on?


Maybe. Just for this one, I think I agree with the muslims. I know that many women deliberately dress and behave sexy to tease men that haven't the slightest chance to have them and enjoy the feeling of power that this gives them. If the man's self esteem is torn into atoms, do they give a damn about that? No, it's just turns them on the more!

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Face it, you're a control freak. You can't stand women who are self-assured and sexy because they're out of your league, and that makes you jealous as hell. And rather than trying to understand women, and trying to allow them to be themselves, and maybe improve yourself to a point at which they might be interested in you, you're throwing a childish tantrum because you can't have what you want.



Guilty as charged. Why do you think women were treated differently than men for thousands of years and still are, especially in muslim countries? It's because, if you let women make their own decisions they will screw around and sleep with unworthy scumbags, who they consider being alpha males. Even in Sweden it was perfectly legal to rape your wife until 1965. Those law makers were wise men. And there isn't something to "understand". Women are irrational, narcissistic, illogical, unfaithful, disloyal, disrespectful, if you give them the chance to self determine how to behave.

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I hope for your sake, Litiguous, you're aged between 12 and 15, because then there's still a chance you might grow up. If you're older than 15 then it's time to stop blaming others for your own misfortune and bigoted ideas, and go and seek some professional help.


I'll be 36 in winter. My IQ is >130 and I think that even you, a heterosexual male, what I've understood, would consider me good looking. Give me a sensible reason why I shouldn't get the women I want.


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01 Oct 2006, 10:41 pm

en_una_isla wrote:
I am trying to remember, if, in my 5 years of living in female dormitories, I ever heard girls say that they dressed provacatively specifically to torment men. I don't think I ever heard this. Many definitely thought they would ATTRACT a man dressing in that manner, but I don't think the intent was ever to tease or torment. I think they felt the males enjoyed just looking, and would like them more if they dressed that way.


Well, its hard for me to tell. I've never been to America, but I know a lot about Swedish women, and they're the most beautiful and at the same time slu*ty, deliberately provocative stuck up b*****s on this planet.

Most Swedish women ignore me or look at me if I was crap, though I'm good looking. When I was in Venezuela, many women looked upon me as if was God and so have Arab women did as well. Why? Because Swedish women are the most enmancipated on this Earth and ergo the most respectless, heartless b*****s of all, while Arab and Venezuelan women are taught to look up to and respect the male.


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01 Oct 2006, 10:57 pm

Litigious, you have one of the strangest views of women I have ever encountered. Your inverse proportion between female emancipation and reverence toward males doesn't account for variables such as the possibility that swedish women can probably pick up on social subtleties as they speak your language and know your culture, whereas a woman foreign to your language or culture would be more forgiving of any subtle or not so subtle social gaffs or quirks on your part. Could that be a possibility?

Either way I think you need to build a time machine and go back to the Victorian era, or move out of Sweden to escape your countrywomen. There is always aspieville, if snake321 gets his ducks in a row.



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01 Oct 2006, 11:08 pm

I would love to have an aspie place of gathering of some sort. I don't think rape is the answer though litigous.... I know how you feel, but listen dude, two wrongs will not make a right. You've got to battle those evil demons in your head, they'll destroy you. There are always escorts..... I'm pulling for the good litigous to come back out, I know your in there somewhere.



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01 Oct 2006, 11:22 pm

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I'll be 36 in winter....

Look for women >40. When they get past 40 they start to get desperate :lol:


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02 Oct 2006, 5:54 pm

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Give me a sensible reason why I shouldn't get the women I want.


So...you want to know why can't you get the women you want?

Can't think why...

Wait...could it possibly be because you are a callous, bitter, uncaring, misogynistic bigot? I find it rather appropriate that this thread started with a discussion that included the concept of "inner beauty". You claim to be outwardly attractive, but inside, you seem quite hideous. Maybe the women who reject you sense this, and very wisely run a mile, to get away from you. I know I would.

Women have suffered uncalcuably over the millenia at the hands of oppressive sexists like you.

I know of your kind. Outwardly, people like you may seem human... But inside, you are nothing but simple, unevolving apes, furiously screaming and beating your chests, enraged at the sight of "lowly females" who dare to live their own lives and make their own choices.

The things you just said make you, in my eyes, no better than a fascist. No better than Hitler.

If I could, I would see to it that you were locked away in a dark cell somewhere, to protect civilised society from infection by your outdated, and terrifyingly ignorant opinions.

Get help, and grow up, you worthless animal.


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02 Oct 2006, 6:11 pm

This is the thing with litigous, most likely he hasn't raped anyone (atleast I'm hoping). He's not in control of his thoughts, and if he doesn't regain control of his thoughts he might loose control of his actions. He needs some help. I don't think deep down he believes alot of the stuff he is saying on here, I think he's merely saying this out of hurt.... How do I know? Because I've felt like that before myself, I think almost every aspie male on here has felt like that *to some degree* at one time or another, though we may not make comments about rape.
In actuality litigous is a victim, as are many here on this board. His lunacy is a result of being starved for so many years of his life... This will literally tear a man's mind and soul apart and sometimes rebuild him into a monster.... Inside, litigous is at war with himself. On one side is the good litigous that is deep down in him. On the other side is the monster society bred into him who is fighting for control over him. I'm pulling for the good litigous to come back :(



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02 Oct 2006, 6:11 pm

Litigious wrote:
Why ..........
Aridarr wrote:
So...you want to know why ........

Strewth :!:

I ripped the head of someone in another thread after he critised my pet interest - and wish I hadn't, but we kissed and made up (metaphorically speaking).

I think we all need to remember there is a real person on the other side of the computer. I know I have to remind myself from time to time.


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02 Oct 2006, 6:36 pm

Sorry about that, I just kind of forgot myself there. :oops:

I don't know Litigious, but I hope that he does have a good side, and that it will come back.

But really, the views he expresses go completely over the line, in my opinion.


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02 Oct 2006, 6:39 pm

I agree with snake321 that there is a good litigious somewhere inside the bad litigious. I think he's speaking out of frustration and anger.

Not that I would want to be locked in a room with him. :arrow:



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02 Oct 2006, 7:01 pm

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I don't know Litigious, but I hope that he does have a good side, and that it will come back. But really, the views he expresses go completely over the line, in my opinion.


I agree. :D

Litigious, you did go a bit feral. :?


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03 Oct 2006, 9:35 am

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This is the thing with litigous, most likely he hasn't raped anyone (atleast I'm hoping). He's not in control of his thoughts, and if he doesn't regain control of his thoughts he might loose control of his actions. He needs some help. I don't think deep down he believes alot of the stuff he is saying on here, I think he's merely saying this out of hurt.... How do I know? Because I've felt like that before myself, I think almost every aspie male on here has felt like that *to some degree* at one time or another, though we may not make comments about rape.
In actuality litigous is a victim, as are many here on this board. His lunacy is a result of being starved for so many years of his life... This will literally tear a man's mind and soul apart and sometimes rebuild him into a monster.... Inside, litigous is at war with himself. On one side is the good litigous that is deep down in him. On the other side is the monster society bred into him who is fighting for control over him. I'm pulling for the good litigous to come back :(


I...don't...give...a...s**t. Men and women who are raped are victims. I've known plenty of men with mental disorders who don't get laid, and it never even occured to them to think that women deserved to be raped because they have a tough time finding women to have sex with them. Any problems Litigous has with women sounds like mostly to be his own fault. It's not just the fact that he misunderstands women, but the belief he has that he is entitled to certain things and that women need to behave in a certain way. Stop trying to make excuses for some bastard who promotes violence against women.