Misogyny
I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.
It sounds psychopathic more than being an atheist, aspergers or whatever.
I think it's a completely different mental disorder.
I'll let you in on something...not every person on this planet treats a relationship in a manner similar to a financial investment. There is the possibility of meeting somebody that wants to be with you, simply because once they have begun to know you they want to finish the book...and want to help write the unwritten chapters. But then life is so uncertain and the chaotic nature of it all sends my head spinning in a million directions at once...how would I find this person? What if I screw it up? What if I find them, all goes well, and then they get hit by a truck?! Oh god!
Stop. Breathe. If this is at all familiar then here is secret number two. All of that chaos inside your mind with a multitude of negative outcomes playing out and scaring you off wanting a relationship is normal. The cure is to hard reset. See it as a memory leak. It will only get worse. How to hard reset? Blow your load inside a member of the opposite sex that makes you physically react in a very positive manner when you notice her. That is the only true way for a male to reset these thoughts and make you truly realise that meeting a person in the right situation for things to prosper can happen, requires some effort on your part to be part of the world, and shouldn't be stressed about because life serves it or it doesn't...you don't make that ultimate decision.
In your situation, as I understand it, I would recommend you find yourself a lovely girl that needs a dollar...what a coincidence, you need sexual attention...and let the exchange take place. Don't listen to the chicks mate...they don't realise that female orgasms exist to encourage them to allow us to mate with them...before high power jobs and exotic sportscars ruined the situation and led to a decline of actual fulfilment...but for men it is more than a base urge for purely reproductive ends...it attaches us to a woman emotionally, stops us from going completely batshit crazy, allows us to feel the warmth and see the colour in this world, and allows our brains to stop worrying about the completely bizarre behaviour of women...if only for a short time.
All the best,
Guybrush
nobody knows why the female orgasm exists. there are only contentious theories and no proof, and the latest theories are currently being completely rebuffed. so i am not sure where you are going with that. and sports cars and high powered jobs are irrelevant to women's orgasms also.
if visiting a prostitute actually helped misogynists to hate women a little less, i'd say your advice makes sense. but it doesn't seem to help at all.
i'd like to see a rational explanation from somebody that would explain how paying for sex is supposed to make a man hate people less when he is already full of hate because he can't have it for free.
obvious example: starving woman needs food and sees other women getting it for free from the food growers. she assumes she can't get any free food herself and hates the food growers. so she goes and buys food instead. just because she isn't hungry anymore doesn't mean she is going to stop hating the food growers. in fact, she would logically hate them MORE.
the OP isn't misogynistic because of lack of sex, so getting sex will not change it. he is misogynistic because he perceives himself to be shortchanged and thinks he cannot have the female attention he desires. so i think he will be happier and less hateful if he gets therapy to either learn to cope with being without sex, or he should learn to appreciate women so that he can have a chance at getting past the misogyny to get what he desires.
Lex,
That is exactly my point. As a woman you will go on the defensive about the existence of the female orgasm, but with the same breath you would claim to understand male sexuality and the male orgasm. It drives us men completely insane. Men don't really care why a woman orgasms...most are just concerned about if she does or not. And the expression of that concern is usually met with some form of negativity. Yep, this guy needs advice about his predicament and there are women that actually think they would understand this situation
There is the possibility that due to not having any sexual release, the OP might have pent up frustrations that he perceives as hateful feelings for desirable women. Ever been frustrated ladies and torn the head off an unsuspecting guy? Ever ramble through a mess of tears explaining why you went off your head when you didn't get away with it? There really is a good possibility that the OP simply needs to get laid and the whole world will shift back into a healthier perspective. Just sayin...
for goodness sake, women are not a prize to be won and most do not expect a juggling act, I sleep with someone If I like them, respect them am attracted to them, and they have to feel the same way about me.
It isn't a game, you just have to find someone compatible.
most of the time I just tell someone if I am attracted to them for example "you know I have a massive crush on you right?"
also, its not attractive to be resentful or desperate or to be just thinking "sex sex sex" the whole time you are talking to a woman.
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When the frustration he feels is because he can't get something for free,
somehow,
no,
him paying for that something and getting it
will only confirm what he already feels.
That's common sense.
Just sayin....
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It isn't a game, you just have to find someone compatible.
most of the time I just tell someone if I am attracted to them for example "you know I have a massive crush on you right?"
also, its not attractive to be resentful or desperate or to be just thinking "sex sex sex" the whole time you are talking to a woman.
I think you'd be doing the world a service if you could hammer this into the head of 90% of people who post in L&D quite frankly.
I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.
So why not hate your instincts? They aren't women's fault.
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I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.
Your reminded me of Jack the Ripper, getting sexual pleasure without having sex.
I guess I couldn't love women any other way...but damn they break my brain sometimes
Possible truth: OP might be frustrated sexually to the point he is not processing situation correctly.
Preferred female take on situation: OP is a vile woman-hater that should be made to feel as terrible as possible by suggesting a variety of deficiencies that he might have and suggest he sees a psychiatrist.
I just couldn't be bothered with attempting to make this thread positive any more when there are a group of harpies with knives to sharpen circling above.
You're most probably ok OP. PM any time.
I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.
Your reminded me of Jack the Ripper, getting sexual pleasure without having sex.
Jack the Ripper was probably a really really super unethical extreme over the top evil sadist more than anything else, hence the sexual pleasure.
Notice I put a lot of emphasis on how over the top he was though - I certainly wouldn't want to give the impression that any significant proportion of sexual sadists are like that all
Not many give someone the benefit of the doubt, after being offended by a political incorrect statement. But yeah, I agree with the possibility of someone's momentary perception to change with experience.
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Possible truth: OP might be frustrated sexually to the point he is not processing situation correctly.
Preferred female take on situation: OP is a vile woman-hater that should be made to feel as terrible as possible by suggesting a variety of deficiencies that he might have and suggest he sees a psychiatrist.
I just couldn't be bothered with attempting to make this thread positive any more when there are a group of harpies with knives to sharpen circling above.
You're most probably ok OP. PM any time.
I would think the suggestion of seeking psychiatric help for the hatred of 3.5 billion people to be pretty standard if not conservative, actually.
But then, ducking into a thread just long enough to call those offering well-reasoned advice "harpies" (because female advice is by definition "harping") and offer a self-proclaimed misogynist a solidaritous fist bump is well in-line with the seriously-distorted worldview being discussed in the first place.
Coincidence?
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I laughed when I saw this. In fact, I am still laughing.
As for the OP, no, I do not hate women. Like you, I have never asked anyone out and I have only been rejected during my feeble attempts at internet dating. In real life, I accidentally rejected a few girls, but it all boils down to my cowardice when it comes to any kind of social interaction.
I also have this contradicting desire for a relationship vs. desire for solitude. Like you said, your hate for women is probably a manifestation of your frustation. As for my own frustration, I do not know how it manifests itself. I do not hate anyone, but I am also very "emotionally distant". I sometimes feel sad about it, but it never lasts more than a few hours. Maybe the manisfestations in my case are social anxiety (which has been decreasing steadily since about 2 years ago) and lack of emotions (which seem to be increasing lately).
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Nipping that sh!t in the bud requires nothing nearly so heavy as that.
Pinking shears.
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I would say the remedy is to just stop thinking of women as something for you to "get"/acquire, and separating them mentally into attractive/not attractive,
but feelings aren't always rational.
See a psychiatrist, maybe?
You cant blame us can you ?
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