Why not just date the same sex?

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21 Jan 2012, 12:25 am

DanRaccoon wrote:
I wish I were gay :/ men are easier.


It would be so much easier if I was gay. :lol:


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21 Jan 2012, 12:28 am

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Attraction is entirely biological. People want to date someone of a certain gender because that is how they are wired. I'm attracted to men because it is just how I am. I didn't choose that path but it is just how my brain works. If I had the choice I would be asexual. It would be less for me to worry about.


I'm attracted to men.
I'm still asexual-
my romantic attraction is still "wired".
And it makes for even more for me to worry about,
because most of my potential dating pool are, unlike with straights or even gays,
NOT of my sexual orientation...which is none.


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21 Jan 2012, 12:09 pm

Because the same sex suffers from a distinct lack of internal reproductive organs.



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21 Jan 2012, 1:45 pm

Gays claim that being gay is not a choice and they are born that way so that rule should work for straight people too. So my answer is I was born straight.


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21 Jan 2012, 5:07 pm

Even though I am bisexual, the reasons why I don't date gay guys go as follows...

1. I just don't see myself as fully gay.

2. I'm waiting for my openly sexist and homophobic sister to come out as bi
so I can come out as bi.

3. My family would emotionally and psychologically
bitch-slap me if I ever became gay.

And for reasons that have already been said...


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21 Jan 2012, 5:45 pm

I find threads such as these quite amusing.

I always thought that Aspies above all would understand such things and see through the modern day bulls*** that surrounds these things.

Male and female unions produce children, children are needed for the species to survive (our bodies die too if you haven't heard) same sex union provides nothing but good feelings toward each other and bodily pleasure. Love exists to facilitate sex, whose prime purpose is reproduction.

Without the reproduction the sex loses any real biological purpose and devolves into a bodily pleasure and achieves a lesser status in society. Once it loses its status it becomes trivialised and seen as primarily for pleasure, contraceptives are used and union becomes common amongst people with little to no feelings towards each other and thus stable reproduction between loving partners becomes scarcer. Less children are produced and a heightened percentage of those are born to mothers who do not love the childs father and so the child is raised with only one parent.

This leaves the child without a major influence on his life and thus hampers his or her worldview, that child is thus less equipped to to take a part in human society and may have persistent difficulties including soem which perpetuate the cycle.

Attraction is worthless unless it serves survival of the species, why do people think we have such impulses?

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21 Jan 2012, 6:16 pm

DreamLord wrote:
I find threads such as these quite amusing.

I always thought that Aspies above all would understand such things and see through the modern day bulls*** that surrounds these things.

Male and female unions produce children, children are needed for the species to survive (our bodies die too if you haven't heard) same sex union provides nothing but good feelings toward each other and bodily pleasure. Love exists to facilitate sex, whose prime purpose is reproduction.

Without the reproduction the sex loses any real biological purpose and devolves into a bodily pleasure and achieves a lesser status in society. Once it loses its status it becomes trivialised and seen as primarily for pleasure, contraceptives are used and union becomes common amongst people with little to no feelings towards each other and thus stable reproduction between loving partners becomes scarcer. Less children are produced and a heightened percentage of those are born to mothers who do not love the childs father and so the child is raised with only one parent.

This leaves the child without a major influence on his life and thus hampers his or her worldview, that child is thus less equipped to to take a part in human society and may have persistent difficulties including soem which perpetuate the cycle.

Attraction is worthless unless it serves survival of the species, why do people think we have such impulses?

This place is good for giggles.


So you know this from experience?


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21 Jan 2012, 9:23 pm

DreamLord wrote:
I find threads such as these quite amusing.


Without the reproduction the sex loses any real biological purpose and devolves into a bodily pleasure and achieves a lesser status in society. Once it loses its status it becomes trivialised and seen as primarily for pleasure, contraceptives are used and union becomes common amongst people with little to no feelings towards each other and thus stable reproduction between loving partners becomes scarcer. Less children are produced and a heightened percentage of those are born to mothers who do not love the childs father and so the child is raised with only one parent.

This leaves the child without a major influence on his life and thus hampers his or her worldview, that child is thus less equipped to to take a part in human society and may have persistent difficulties including soem which perpetuate the cycle.


I was raised in a very large family wherein the vast majority of individuals had been divorced at least once, and all were pretty comfortable with their sexuality. I had not only two parents, but about 8 grandparents, and countless aunt, uncles, and cousins. It was awesome.

Also, f**k biological imperatives. Sex is fun and I'm not cut out for raising kids.



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21 Jan 2012, 10:34 pm

DreamLord wrote:
I find threads such as these quite amusing.

I always thought that Aspies above all would understand such things and see through the modern day bulls*** that surrounds these things.

Male and female unions produce children, children are needed for the species to survive (our bodies die too if you haven't heard) same sex union provides nothing but good feelings toward each other and bodily pleasure. Love exists to facilitate sex, whose prime purpose is reproduction.

Without the reproduction the sex loses any real biological purpose and devolves into a bodily pleasure and achieves a lesser status in society. Once it loses its status it becomes trivialised and seen as primarily for pleasure, contraceptives are used and union becomes common amongst people with little to no feelings towards each other and thus stable reproduction between loving partners becomes scarcer. Less children are produced and a heightened percentage of those are born to mothers who do not love the childs father and so the child is raised with only one parent.

This leaves the child without a major influence on his life and thus hampers his or her worldview, that child is thus less equipped to to take a part in human society and may have persistent difficulties including soem which perpetuate the cycle.

Attraction is worthless unless it serves survival of the species, why do people think we have such impulses?

This place is good for giggles.


That quite frankly is hogwash.
The vast majority of the time when human beings have sex, reproduction is avoided at all costs.
Sex serves a great variety of psycho social needs.
Moreover, a good portion of people- gays, asexuals, bi people, etc, either lack sexual attraction altogether or experience it toward individuals with whom, absent of technological intervention, reproduction is impossible.

"Attraction is worthless unless it serves survival of the species", yes.
But attraction takes many, many forms, and survival of any one species is very rarely if ever served by every single member reproducing.


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22 Jan 2012, 12:08 am

I'm probably more bisexual, but I can't exactly have children with another man, and that is one of my long term dreams. I don't see the point of a relationship if there's no possibility of starting a family.



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22 Jan 2012, 2:50 am

Personally I'm attracted to guys and it's not something I can force myself to change. I just cant imagine being intimate with a girl although it may be great to be able to share makeup and clothes.



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22 Jan 2012, 8:29 pm

I explained my point perfectly, saying it's hogwash doesn't change that, point out the bits that are hogwash.

People often don't do it for reproductive purposes consciously, but are bodies function that way in order to facilitate it. If you are attracted to somebody oft he same agenda, pre-pubescents or post-menstrual women, then you are faulty. Trying to pretend it's just as good as being attracted to fertile members of the opposite sex is self delusion. I'm sorry that nature is so boigoted against homosexuals, gerontophiles, and paedophiles (maybe not sorry for the last one) but thats the way it is. Have a cry and move on with it.



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22 Jan 2012, 8:37 pm

Do you really have to ask?



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22 Jan 2012, 8:52 pm

DreamLord wrote:
I explained my point perfectly, saying it's hogwash doesn't change that, point out the bits that are hogwash.

People often don't do it for reproductive purposes consciously, but are bodies function that way in order to facilitate it. If you are attracted to somebody oft he same agenda, pre-pubescents or post-menstrual women, then you are faulty. Trying to pretend it's just as good as being attracted to fertile members of the opposite sex is self delusion. I'm sorry that nature is so boigoted against homosexuals, gerontophiles, and paedophiles (maybe not sorry for the last one) but thats the way it is. Have a cry and move on with it.

Saying homosexuals are faulty is extremely offensive


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22 Jan 2012, 8:57 pm

I've always been accused of this (see the thread about "Faking Asperger's in General Autism Forum). And I will admit, I've experimented a bit. But it wasn't satisfying (also, someone attempted to rape me as a kid, so this is also a factor here I think) at all.
But to be totally honest, as usual. I've never fallen in love with a male. I don't have fantasies about falling in love with men, either.
I only get crushes/fall in love with females.
Any gay male that tries to hit on me has always gotten an Icey Stare or been completely snubbed.
Admittedly, not great at dating, but I do date women exclusively.
I'm in the Club that believes your sexual orientation is something you DO NOT have a choice over. Sorry Fundementalist types! LOL

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22 Jan 2012, 9:28 pm

DanRaccoon wrote:
I wish I were gay :/ men are easier.


Men are not easier... not by a long shot.

I see someone said gays are faulty? I guess most of the animal kingdom is faulty then.