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Would you date a guy because he has a fancy car?
I'll do 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
indifferent 45%  45%  [ 25 ]
I am not female/or gay. 54%  54%  [ 30 ]
Total votes : 56

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03 Apr 2012, 10:58 am

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Exactly. For those who do go out with people for monetary reasons - it's the same as going for someone who is youthful/beautiful which most people do, or going out with someone more/as intelligent as you are - that's just as shallow a want.


Not really, a person can't leech from the beauty or intelligence of another, they can only appreciate it or engage it but a person can leech from the productivity or finances of another under the guise of love. You are saying that it's acceptable to date someone to leech from them financially? or that it's a major factor in why you would date someone?



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I have no issue with woman appreciating a man's success who might be very rich due to it, that's totally different from liking him for his money.



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03 Apr 2012, 11:01 am

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^ It's instinctual to look for a mate with "survival skills" which has evolved into "lots of money" or "a good career" in modern society. Cars can be an indicator of such. It's like a bird building a big fancy nest to attract his mate.


For a gold digger? Maybe so. You are saying everyone just seeks to live at the pinnacle of the capitalist dream, right? That's the ultimate hope, the reason why everyone does everything is based on reaching the American dream? Everything you do and everyone you have ever approached has been based on that? It just sounds very black and white to me, surely there must have been other factors that attracted you to a person or attracted you to a certain interest or pursuit?

What about people like sunshower that preach practicality and simplicity over aesthetics? what about people that are minimalists and only appreciate the simple things in life? what about women that can't give birth to children? what about women that join the military? I am saying you can't look at it in black and white because not everyone desires the Hollywood lifestyle.

I never said it's the only reason to pick a mate, nor that it is the criteria that I personally use. Only that animals (humans included) are instinctually wired to be attracted to things that indicate good genes or good survial skills. It's not black and white at all as its not the only reason to pick a mate and no one ever indicated so, my comment was mearly a statement of the underlying reason behind why some people DO do it.


So that's your way to justify gold digging, I am not surprised by it. You said it was instinctual and now you are saying it only applies to some people? How is it instinctual if only some people do it? Saying some people do it makes it sound more like a preconceived plot or scheme.

Humans have reasoning unlike animals so that logic is flawed, people don't instinctively say "Oh look there's a guy with a big wallet, I'll pretend to love him since he can provide for me and shaft the guy I really love because he has a bus pass", that's called gold digging.



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03 Apr 2012, 11:12 am

You're reading a lot of extra things into my statement. Do you think birds pretend to like the bird that builds the biggest nest? Roughly translated into human terms, I'd say that birds actually DO like the one with the biggest nest. Because that's what they like in a mate. Its not romantic or idealistic, its practical for survival. Humans have those instincts as well and that is the origin of "gold digging" behavior and yes on some level it IS instinctual.

That does NOT mean that I think pretending to like someone in order to use them for their money is acceptable behavior. I actually think that people who do that are reprehensible and I would not want to date one, NOR have I ever been one myself.


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03 Apr 2012, 11:13 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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^ It's instinctual to look for a mate with "survival skills" which has evolved into "lots of money" or "a good career" in modern society. Cars can be an indicator of such. It's like a bird building a big fancy nest to attract his mate.


For a gold digger? Maybe so. You are saying everyone just seeks to live at the pinnacle of the capitalist dream, right? That's the ultimate hope, the reason why everyone does everything is based on reaching the American dream? Everything you do and everyone you have ever approached has been based on that? It just sounds very black and white to me, surely there must have been other factors that attracted you to a person or attracted you to a certain interest or pursuit?

What about people like sunshower that preach practicality and simplicity over aesthetics? what about people that are minimalists and only appreciate the simple things in life? what about women that can't give birth to children? what about women that join the military? I am saying you can't look at it in black and white because not everyone desires the Hollywood lifestyle.

I never said it's the only reason to pick a mate, nor that it is the criteria that I personally use. Only that animals (humans included) are instinctually wired to be attracted to things that indicate good genes or good survial skills. It's not black and white at all as its not the only reason to pick a mate and no one ever indicated so, my comment was mearly a statement of the underlying reason behind why some people DO do it.


So that's your way to justify gold digging, I am not surprised by it. You said it was instinctual and now you are saying it only applies to some people? How is it instinctual if only some people do it? Saying some people do it makes it sound more like a preconceived plot or scheme.

Humans have reasoning unlike animals so that logic is flawed, people don't instinctively say "Oh look there's a guy with a big wallet, I'll pretend to love him since he can provide for me and shaft the guy I really love because he has a bus pass", that's called gold digging.

Most people will do anything for money, fame and status. WE are just the rare ones, not them.



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03 Apr 2012, 11:26 am

Wolfheart wrote:
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Exactly. For those who do go out with people for monetary reasons - it's the same as going for someone who is youthful/beautiful which most people do, or going out with someone more/as intelligent as you are - that's just as shallow a want.


Not really, a person can't leech from the beauty or intelligence of another, they can only appreciate it or engage it but a person can leech from the productivity or finances of another under the guise of love. You are saying that it's acceptable to date someone to leech from them financially? or that it's a major factor in why you would date someone?


Leeching from someone financially...isn't that what housewives do, if it's called "leeching"? I, and a lot of women see money as status or power, which is highly attractive - like beauty is to men, both are instinctual. It may be "wrong", but people can't help what they're attracted to. Yes, I realise a lot of women would just partner with someone only for their money, but I'm not one of them. I do find wealth attractive though.

So there's leeching from someone who has money, and then dumping them when they're poor. Then there's admiration of beauty until the person grows old, and then they're dumped. What's the difference?



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03 Apr 2012, 11:59 am

Turns out you didn't say that in that thread though you did say that physical appearance is most important. In that case a car isn't necessary.
Found in fnord's what is most attractive to you thread.
Not a female said if they had a car.


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03 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm

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Turns out you didn't say that in that thread though you did say that physical appearance is most important. In that case a car isn't necessary.

To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)



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03 Apr 2012, 12:15 pm

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To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)

OH RLY?! Then how is Olly Murs single?


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03 Apr 2012, 12:19 pm

PastFixations wrote:
Uprising wrote:
To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)

OH RLY?! Then how is Olly Murs single?

Who?



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03 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm

Google was invented for searching...
He's some pop singer that fans scream over... like an older Justin Bieber but not hated as much.


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03 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm

Uprising wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Turns out you didn't say that in that thread though you did say that physical appearance is most important. In that case a car isn't necessary.

To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)


well, 1/7 aint bad right?



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03 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm

MXH wrote:
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PastFixations wrote:
Turns out you didn't say that in that thread though you did say that physical appearance is most important. In that case a car isn't necessary.

To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)


well, 1/7 aint bad right?


Well, I got 0/7 so that's better than nothing.



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03 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm

MXH wrote:
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To sum up the preferred image.

Car + large cock + shaved body + muscles + narcissism + money + popularity = man.

Everything else = wimp.

Deal with it. 8)


well, 1/7 aint bad right?

I know this one, is it your popularity?

Wait, what about someone fighting in a war or a firefighter. That can be an image to some.


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03 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm

its not popularity, and i no longer have a car



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03 Apr 2012, 12:44 pm

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its not popularity, and i no longer have a car

Shaved body?



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03 Apr 2012, 12:46 pm

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its not popularity, and i no longer have a car

Shaved body?

Muscles?


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