07 Jul 2012, 9:00 pm
JanuaryMan wrote:
TM wrote:
JanuaryMan wrote:
No one's denying the data is correct, TM, just that it isn't representative of every living human being on Earth. It's no better than concluding that because all Skittles are from the same bag, that they all taste the same.
I think I conceeded that point in my post didn't I?
JanuaryMan wrote:
The author of the post meant well, and is simply naive and not really fully knowledgeable of the sources he refers to.
You on the other hand are more knowledgeable and are encouraging him out of your own bitterness towards life.
You on the other hand are more knowledgeable and are encouraging him out of your own bitterness towards life.
I was pointing out some of the errors in his posts, the counter-arguments he will undoubtedly face and various shortcomings of the data. I fail to see how that has anything to do with my somewhat misanthropic and cynical view of the human species.
Given that we are on a forum where quite a few members, especially in this sub-forum have issues with social behavior, being able to systematize these to a certain objective degree is beneficial as unlike large parts of society those members are unable to intuitively grasp the social conventions and behaviors associated with human relationships. I'm also not suggesting that this be applied literally.
Editing this post atm
Thanks for clarifying. I guess I forget while the human condition is somewhat irrational this far in, some do need it to be rationalised in order to better understand it and adapt better to daily life. It's that whole zero empathy thing kicking in
I'm empathy challenged myself so I get where you're coming from. I personally need to systematize, come up with "rules" and intellectually deal with social issues. Luckily, I have the ability to do so which makes social interactions possible for me with the help of thousands of pages of reading and rationalizing.
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08 Jul 2012, 2:09 am
yellowtamarin wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
paxfilosoof wrote:
Woman have many preferences because they need to be choosy about a mate,
because they need a man to help in growing up a child
because they need a man to help in growing up a child
What if you are dating someone that doesn't want children? Dating for reproduction values and the nuclear family has been going out of the window since the 1950's, actually what you said sounds like something from the 1950's.
And aspie women are probably more likely than NT women to decide not to have children, so does that part of the theory still apply here? Is the aspie-alpha-male (that the typical aspie woman is apparently looking for) a man who is best for bringing up a child?
Who knows, people are different, if people were not different, the world would be a boring place. This isn't Sparta or World war II, it's the 21st century, I don't think women have a big check list of how their mate should compare to their idea of the ultimate alpha male, at least I don't think they do.
People have the freedom to date whoever they want now, women don't need men as much because they are already protected by laws and able to live self sufficiently on their own. I think some guys on the spectrum like to blame their problems in dating on the external or women when really it's more to do with how they socialize and flirt with the opposite sex.
08 Jul 2012, 2:15 am
Wolfheart wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
paxfilosoof wrote:
Woman have many preferences because they need to be choosy about a mate,
because they need a man to help in growing up a child
because they need a man to help in growing up a child
What if you are dating someone that doesn't want children? Dating for reproduction values and the nuclear family has been going out of the window since the 1950's, actually what you said sounds like something from the 1950's.
And aspie women are probably more likely than NT women to decide not to have children, so does that part of the theory still apply here? Is the aspie-alpha-male (that the typical aspie woman is apparently looking for) a man who is best for bringing up a child?
Who knows, people are different, if people were not different, the world would be a boring place. This isn't Sparta or World war II, it's the 21st century, I don't think women have a big check list of how their mate should compare to their idea of the ultimate alpha male, at least I don't think they do.
People have the freedom to date whoever they want now, women don't need men as much because they are already protected by laws and able to live self sufficiently on their own. I think some guys on the spectrum like to blame their problems in dating on the external or women when really it's more to do with how they socialize and flirt with the opposite sex.
Indeed, sorry, that was more directed at the OP, who is suggesting (I think?) that the criteria for aspie-aspie relationship is different to the NT-NT criteria, when it comes to what women want. Women wanting a man who will bring up their child well is more likely to fit for an NT woman than an aspie woman, if it fits at all. I think that part of the theory is the most flawed.
I do, however, agree with the OP that aspie woman probably look for slightly different things in a man than what NT women look for. Clustering general trends together and presenting them this way, though, doesn't work so well.
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