Males: do you consider yourself physically attractive?

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Perceptions of beauty do change, but not as much as you guys make it to be. You make it sound as a fairy tale where the frog can turn into a prince by just getting on a plane. Someone seen as a 10 in the western world will not drop below an 8 anywhere else in the world.

I'm not really implying that you can hop on a plane and expect to be considered hot somewhere else. If anything, I've clearly implied that doing so is liable to make you go DOWN in rank.

But the whole point of that is, if concepts of beauty can be so radically different between cultures (And YES, they are. Yes, if Anne Hathaway went into Africa and tried to flirt with some pygmies or bushmen, they would be completely repulsed by her appearance), imagine how radically different they can be between individuals. I remember reading about a study that showed that MEN tended to be more uniform in their perception of what made a hot woman, and that WOMEN had a much wider spectrum for what they considered hot.

http://www.wfu.edu/news/release/2009.06.25.a.php

So don't get so depressed! So long as you weren't completely shafted during Darwin's Lotto when they were doing the lots for physical attractiveness, you stand a decent chance of there being a chick out there that would consider you reasonably hot.

you picked two small tribes in africa. Lets be honest, thats very rare to happen. For the vast majority (90+%) what i said is the truth, in some remote nowhere there might be crazy things happening.

I think you forgot to read the rest of the post, mate! Given studies suggesting the high variability in women's preferences in male appearance, so long as you're not horribly ugly you're liable to get some chicks who'd give you a decent rating. Remember, studies have shown that women put less emphasis on looks as a whole to begin with, you don't need to be a superstar in terms of appearance to do well!

Simply saying studies have shown means absolutely nothing.

That's equivalent to saying "A piece of evidence in support of a hypothesis or theory means nothing on it's own", which I can assure you is incorrect. It's not like these are isolated studies either, look through the citations. This is research that has been built upon research, that has been built upon research, that has been built upon......and that is how science works. These conclusions haven't just come out of nowhere, but of course there are always going to be competing hypotheses as well. It could VERY WELL be that women tend to lie and that is skewing results, but it could also be that they're wrong about that, because there's still lots of sound research and evidence indicating otherwise, and any studies examining these biases will have tried to explore alternative explanations as well.

Can you provide me with this study, so that I can take a look into the conclusions section and see what kind of alternative explanations they offer?

That may be so, but you're hiding behind a hat and some sunglasses.

Most people have commented on my eyes (bright, sharp green), and thought they were attractive (that is, when I manage to hold my gaze into a person's eyes long enough, lol). My broad shoulders were another strong point, but that's about all I have going for me.

Id say back when I had hair I was around 3/5, now that im balding and forced to have a number 1 buzzcut im a 1 or 2 out of 5.

Imo, he's mostly right here. My speculations have lead me to believe that human concepts of beauty are determined primarily by three levels:

Evolutionary: This is where things such as finding deformities and individuals that appear to be sick unattractive, and who knows what other manner of other things, come into play. Basically, at this level, we're talking about things that are biologically wired into us. Those of our ancestors that didn't learn to stay AWAY from those with the debilitating deformities were unfortunately less successful from a biological standpoint.

Cultural: This is where you'll get things such as "fat people are hot/fat people are gross!", which often play into specific cultural context. For example, back in the day, only rich girls could afford to get fat, so they were the hottest things around. All it takes is one look at the paintings of Peter Paul Reuben to know this to be true. Nowadays getting fat is a trivial affair in first world countries, so the appeal has largely vanished. This is also where you get things such as how 100 years ago facial hair was considered very attractive in western society. Now, it's usually taken as a sign of being a bogan!

Personal: This is simple enough. Everyone has individual tastes. Even in a society full of skinny-loving males, you get no absence of men who love them some BBW.

Between the personal and cultural levels, there is plenty of subjectivity. Look at the differences in standards of beauty across the myriad of cultures today. Take that 10/10 from the US and show her to a bunch of African bushmen. They'll give her a 0/10. It's just how it is!



.......now as for the topic at hand? Well, people tend to state that I'm quite decent looking. Maybe a 7/10?

Might as well go shaved bald... it's actually quite a fashion on its own and some gals REALLY like it!

I had a friend who was balding at the age of 25-30... he had the "Frasier" look and looked old... he shaved the last bit and just went stark bald, immediately looking young again. He even got quite a bit of attention from the gals (even my wife had a crush on him...)

or at least not unappealing.