How do you determine if you are physically attractive?

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which is still better than being unemployed. Thus being a positive. Nobody has forced you to go after shallow women if thats the case. In any case its not your or anyone elses rights to call them shallow because they found you hot and wwanted to get to know you better.

If people aren't going to judge or take the right to judge someone as shallow, they are going to think it and contain their opinion. I would rather people are forthcoming with their judgements when they find someone shallow rather than hiding it in thought, at least if they are forthcoming, it can be addressed and if they have made a misjudgement, it can be corrected.

You make a good arguement but I'm stating people who value people for superficial reasons, people who use beauty as a business.

You are right, being valued for something is greater than being valued for nothing but when you are valued for something, it will be based on subjective attraction as oppossed to universal attraction so it will be more personal and have more meaning or attachment. Universal attraction is based on impersonal and generalized images we have of what is attractive to us whether they are dictated by the media or culture.

There is a quote I like by Machiavelli.
"Men are so simple and so much inclined to obey immediate needs that a deceiver will never lack victims for his deceptions." - Machiavelli

I think many people push themselves to live to expectations that aren't their own, they think it's so great to be universally attractive, they forget what true value is. Young men taking steroids and girls who starve themselves to play the part. They stop realizing that what matters is in the heart, they stop realizing the value of depth and date for the wrong reasons, they crave this sense of superficial value but it isn't true love or acceptance.

I mean what good is it to be rich in physical and financial attraction if you are poor in soul and heart? If you don't stand for something, if you don't feel like putting your heart and soul into something, what good is it? I would rather have a dollar in my pocket than a million if it meant that I earned that dollar through my own blood, sweat and tears, through something I wanted to put my heart and soul into over a million dollars that I stole or inherited.

MXH: Everything comes with a set of options. Maybe you don't like the set of options you have right now, but there's no guarantee that the set on the other side of the fence will be any better for you once you have experienced it.

Because "nobody wants you" (at least so you keep saying), that means you are truly free to create something worthwhile for youself from scratch, because you have absolutely nothing to lose by doing it. Having no strings attached can be a very good thing, if you are that way inclined. You can set your own standards and expectations and choose what you want to live up to, you have that choice.

I don't necessarily like the situation I am in now, of course I would rather the circumstances were more favourable, but I have definitely made the best of it. Sometimes it's much better to actively choose your own standards, values and way and make your own rather than valuing yourself by societies standards.

At the end of the day, you're not guaranteed to find love either way. So you mos as well spend your life doing what you want to do.

For me.....

I know i am physically attractive because when i dress to society's standards...I cease to matter as a person and become a slab of meat. I have cars slowing down and comments shouted out. Other women automatically perseive me as a threat too so they shun me. If i keep with my normal attire, which are mens clothes, i don't have as many issues.

I would just like to state that given a choice between being too ugly, and too hot, I would choose to be too hot.

itd be nice if i could manage to be able to do such a thing, but im not even able of that. Hence the things i say about myself

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When people want to be seen with you.
When people compliment you a lot.
When you say awkward things and people lap it up instead of outcasting you.
When people of the opposite gender crowd you on the dancefloor instead of moving away.
When you compliment someone and they're overwhelmed with joy, not overwhelmed with fear!

Most men perfer women with fuller lips, because it's more feminine. Woman, on average, have fuller, ronder lips. Men tend to have small lips.

A lot of men like full lips.

Characteristic features of the female "sexy face" in comparison to the "unsexy face":

Browner skin
Narrower facial shape
Less fat
Fuller lips
Slightly bigger distance of eyes
Darker, narrower eye brows
More, longer and darker lashes
Higher cheek bones
Narrower nose
No eye rings
Thinner lids

Characteristics of the male "Sexy face" in the comparison to the "unsexy face":
Browner skin
Narrower facial shape
Less fat
Fuller and more symmetrical lips
Darker eye brows
More and darker lashes
Upper half of the face broader in relation to the lower
Higher cheek bones
Prominent lower jaw
More prominent chin
No receding brows
Thinner lids
No wrinkles between nose and corner of the mouth

Source: http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaete ... otypen.htm

Body:
-hourglass figure, 0.7 hip-waist ratio
-fuller breats (though not too big)
-longer legs

Source: http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaete ... /figur.htm

thanks for the list, i'm officially unattractive

Well, you never know. It might be a case that my list only applies to certain charm.
You could be very attractive and it might scare people

i've found a lot of women like men with full lips too. i knew a guy with really big puffy lips. i complimented him on them, and he confessed that he routinely had women telling him that they were his best feature.

good point about the charm. many aspies lack that sort of surface-level charisma that draws crowds.

That's what my parents always used to tell me, that I was "intimidating" Never believed them for a second!

thing about charisma is that its like toppings on an icecream. A good one can make it a lot better, but by itself its nothing