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16 Aug 2012, 12:54 am

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Why do you think people that listen to metal should conform to a certain code or dress sense? I know and listen to a wide range of music from metal to rap.


Sub-cultures tend to have their dominant clothing style, especially those situated around music such as....


Yes that's true but by attempting to be different, they are actually forming another group so they aren't really being original, are they? The individual person desires judgement, without that desire, the forming of groups is impossible. They aren't being original by wearing that type of clothing, they are simply conforming to rigid lines that they set out to change in the first place.

I feel like the casual or business look has a universal appeal for the most part, it is the professional standard and it is widely accepted in the corporate capitals of the world such as London, New York and Dubai.


That's why I started just wearing preppy clothes. I feel if I need to, I can express myself in ways other than my clothing. Clothes are just clothes.

That said, business casual is cool I guess, but I don't think it'd work for me around here, as my personality is too "serious" already. Also, even for job interviews, I had an interview at Radio Shack once, I wore a striped Polo shirt, black dress pants, and dress shoes, and the person interviewing me remarked I was way overdressed "Dude you have more expensive shoes on than I do." So yeah, I don't think it'd be good for me to dress in such a manner.



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16 Aug 2012, 1:04 am

The whole style thing is pretty overrated. There are two important rules as far as I can tell make sure the clothes fit as well as you can afford and don't over do it



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16 Aug 2012, 1:07 am

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Yes that's true but by attempting to be different, they are actually forming another group so they aren't really being original, are they? The individual person desires judgement, without that desire, the forming of groups is impossible. They aren't being original by wearing that type of clothing, they are simply conforming to rigid lines that they set out to change in the first place.


There's lots of ways to be unique within a general fashion style. Look at the millions of different styles of your suits there are, for example. Single breast or double breast? Then there's notch, peak, or shawl lapels. Wanna stand out in a crowd of guys wearing suits? Try an exotic color, such as orange. The same principles apply within each of those fairly broad fashion styles I listed. You can "stand out" within any kind of general fashion scheme.

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I feel like the casual or business look has a universal appeal for the most part, it is the professional standard and it is widely accepted in the corporate capitals of the world such as London, New York and Dubai.


It sort of does. Bear in mind, that business culture is pretty universal, that's why you see business style clothing everywhere. But you'll see that kind of clothing within circles of business people. People engrossed in corporate culture. That is a very different culture from the heavy metal crowd, for example, and it has very contrasting fashion sense. You show up in a suit that is NOT covered in skulls, spikes, studs, and chains to a heavy metal concert, and you WILL get lots of funny looks unless you've got the smoking beauty of a model or the charisma of Freddy Mercury.



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16 Aug 2012, 7:59 am

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Going to the gym isn't going to remove the fat.


I'll keep away from your gym then...



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16 Aug 2012, 11:54 am

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Fashion and appearance tips can really help as we all know appearance can play a major part in initial attraction.


Ok, if you say so :roll:

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Pinstripe suits and vertically striped dress shirts will can add height to your body.


What is "suit"? Is it this strange, ugly outfit worn by people repulsive for me?

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Dress in proportion to your body, wear clothes that show you are confident in your body.


That's why I like baggy clothes.
My body is somewhere there deep inside, and I'm confident in it

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Start working out and going to the gym to obtain a desirable body.


R-O-T-F-L
You know what? I know only one person who obtained nice body on gym - gym trainer (and owner) - but he trains for 7hours/day

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If required, grow a facial hair style but keep it trimmed or be clean shaven, try different styles until you find one that makes you look most desirable.


My facial hair are allowed to grow like wild weeds, and I'm shaving them when I'm in mood

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Hair style is important, go to a hair stylist and ask for the best type of style that will suit your head.


I don't like when someone touches my head. Period.

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Put a picture of someone you aspire to be like on your wall, this could be anyone that is perceived as attractive by Hollywood standards.


Hannibal Lecter counts? Freddie Crugger? Captain Jack Sparrow??
And why "hollywood standars"?
For me even dead badger looks better than "hollywood standard" :roll:

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Avoid wearing logo shirts, polo shirts and trainers.


What's wrong with them?
They don't fit in "hollywood standard"?
I know I like them from some reason :D

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If you have a tall body type, try breaking it up by mixing the colours up, a double breasted blazer that is tailored to fit would be worth looking into and remember to go for vertical stripes.


Army green and army green and more army green and pale blue jeans counts as mixed colors??

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Watch the body language of confident actors in films such as Oceans Eleven.


R-O-T-F-L again
Watch the movie about Julius Cesar to become a great strategist

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If you do wear glasses, get a fashionable rimless or square rimmed pair or start wearing contact lenses.


I'm wearing army/police style shades with optical inserts
Any problem with this?

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If you are pale, think about tanning or at least looking into a tanning shop.


One question - WHY?
To get fashionable skin cancer??

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Watch actors and films and try to copy their style, for example Ocean's Eleven or Ryan Gosling.


Again - watch Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon to learn kung-fu

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Again, dressing in proportion is important when it comes to jackets, a jacket that is too short will emphasize a taller and leaner build and a jacket that is too long or baggy will make you look like a potato sack.


What will you tell me about BDU "jackets"

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With a short few tips, you could go from this:

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Dude, cut off stereotypes, Ok?
It will be better for all

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To this

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Ooo, you exactly portray people repulsive for me
How do you guess?
Why should I look like a ***(bad language)*** corporate ***(bad language)***?????

You know what?
I look like taken from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. cosplay,
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and I'm perfectly comfortable in it :D

Anything wrong in not following the fads?


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16 Aug 2012, 12:06 pm

Big_cheese wrote:
noname_ever wrote:

Going to the gym isn't going to remove the fat.


I'll keep away from your gym then...

Merely going to the gym without making any changes on your eating habits doesnt work for most people.
This is something that is backed up by most professional trainers. Going to the gym can be helpful but if you dont change your eating habits you are bound to go back to how you looked the minute you cant go to the gym.
Other meetings, some injuries can stop you from going to the gym in months(trust me I had to spend three months without stepping into a gym because "I put too much pressure on my left hip"(they had no clue what really happened, they said it looked broken but after three months they said that theres no way it´d be back again in three months...) and I wasnt doing any heavy exercises. When my mum asked the doctor she said I just had bad luck.
It could happen to anyone at anytime and I had the bad luck of having to go from university to home and from home to university for three months.

This didnt affect my weight but it was only because I had a healthy attitude about eating and I tried to keep myself as active as possible.



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16 Aug 2012, 12:51 pm

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I don't wanna derail this too much though, I just have to say the whole clean cut well to do look does not really do a whole lot for me.


If you tried to dress like that in London and go into certain shops, you would be turned away by security or not allowed to enter. Why do you think people that listen to metal should conform to a certain code or dress sense? I know and listen to a wide range of music from metal to rap.


Well I am actually female, I meant I find that style more attractive on guys then the one suggested in this thread....though I admit I dress a lot like that quite a bit. Also where did I say people who listen to metal should conform to a certain style? I just find that style which happens to be associated with metal more attractive than suits and ties....but its not like I think you have to dress that way to listen to metal that would be ridiculous.


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16 Aug 2012, 1:00 pm

Wolfheart wrote:
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Why do you think people that listen to metal should conform to a certain code or dress sense? I know and listen to a wide range of music from metal to rap.


Sub-cultures tend to have their dominant clothing style, especially those situated around music such as....


Yes that's true but by attempting to be different, they are actually forming another group so they aren't really being original, are they? The individual person desires judgement, without that desire, the forming of groups is impossible. They aren't being original by wearing that type of clothing, they are simply conforming to rigid lines that they set out to change in the first place.

I feel like the casual or business look has a universal appeal for the most part, it is the professional standard and it is widely accepted in the corporate capitals of the world such as London, New York and Dubai.


I think you got the wrong idea...being part of a subculture is not really about attempting to be different. It just so happens most sub-cultures deviate from the norm therefore people in them may be rather different then those who are more part of the mainstream culture. It doesn't really make one original, if one dresses like a typical metalhead for instance it more expresses that they are a metalhead which might help with meeting other metalheads.....same thing with any other sub-culture.

Also isn't dressing the way you suggest conforming to a specific standard? Besides the only time I really see people dressed like that is if I go to downtown around the corporate buildings or if I'm in a wealthy sort of area.......it would be rather out of place where I live if a guy was walking around in a suit and tie.


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16 Aug 2012, 1:13 pm

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....but.... but I don't wanna' be a douchebag... :(

I'll stick to looking like Exhibit A. ;)



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16 Aug 2012, 2:40 pm

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The only tip I really like is the ' go to the gym' tip, because that really has results, somewhat.
I've going to the gym for 4 months now and I must say that I like what my body is becoming, despite the fact that developing muscles isn't even my true purpose for going to the gym.
Instead of a fat body I now have either a muscled fat body or a fat muscled body, depending on your view mostly.
So yes, if people feel like gaining some muscles I suggest you go to the gym. But not for attracting the women, like so many others do ( and believe me, there are a lot of show-offs in my gym), but just to feel good about yourself or because you want to become stronger or etc.


See, clothing has far more of an impact on me. I'm for all body types (except very large).

I prefer the clothing in the picture the first guy is wearing, mainly because the others don't stand out enough to me. They look a bit plain, TBH. Having said that though, I *love* the business look with a dark jacket and trousers.

There's something hot about men who dress in black. Is that just a *me* thing or does anyone else agree?



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16 Aug 2012, 2:56 pm

SabreToothBadger wrote:
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The only tip I really like is the ' go to the gym' tip, because that really has results, somewhat.
I've going to the gym for 4 months now and I must say that I like what my body is becoming, despite the fact that developing muscles isn't even my true purpose for going to the gym.
Instead of a fat body I now have either a muscled fat body or a fat muscled body, depending on your view mostly.
So yes, if people feel like gaining some muscles I suggest you go to the gym. But not for attracting the women, like so many others do ( and believe me, there are a lot of show-offs in my gym), but just to feel good about yourself or because you want to become stronger or etc.


See, clothing has far more of an impact on me. I'm for all body types (except very large).

I prefer the clothing in the picture the first guy is wearing, mainly because the others don't stand out enough to me. They look a bit plain, TBH. Having said that though, I *love* the business look with a dark jacket and trousers.

There's something hot about men who dress in black. Is that just a *me* thing or does anyone else agree?

In postsecret community theres a thread asking female members to post picture of certain parts of their body.
One of the male equivalent threads(they seem to think that there arent enough take a picture of yourself without a shirt/displaying certain parts of your body...) asks males to suit up(would send you a link but youd need an account) so Im going to assume that you are not alone in this



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16 Aug 2012, 3:12 pm

spongy wrote:
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The only tip I really like is the ' go to the gym' tip, because that really has results, somewhat.
I've going to the gym for 4 months now and I must say that I like what my body is becoming, despite the fact that developing muscles isn't even my true purpose for going to the gym.
Instead of a fat body I now have either a muscled fat body or a fat muscled body, depending on your view mostly.
So yes, if people feel like gaining some muscles I suggest you go to the gym. But not for attracting the women, like so many others do ( and believe me, there are a lot of show-offs in my gym), but just to feel good about yourself or because you want to become stronger or etc.


See, clothing has far more of an impact on me. I'm for all body types (except very large).

I prefer the clothing in the picture the first guy is wearing, mainly because the others don't stand out enough to me. They look a bit plain, TBH. Having said that though, I *love* the business look with a dark jacket and trousers.

There's something hot about men who dress in black. Is that just a *me* thing or does anyone else agree?

In postsecret community theres a thread asking female members to post picture of certain parts of their body.
One of the male equivalent threads(they seem to think that there arent enough take a picture of yourself without a shirt/displaying certain parts of your body...) asks males to suit up(would send you a link but youd need an account) so Im going to assume that you are not alone in this


I tend to notice men who wear white shirts- maybe I find other colors distracting? It just makes their faces stand out. Same with black, but not nearly as much.


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16 Aug 2012, 3:25 pm

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If you tried to dress like that in London and go into certain shops, you would be turned away by security or not allowed to enter.


That's London dude. You could go anywhere in Australia or New Zealand dressed like that.


Australia isn't exactly London, New York, Paris or Milan. Let's face it, they aren't exactly leading authorities on fashion.

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Also isn't dressing the way you suggest conforming to a specific standard? Besides the only time I really see people dressed like that is if I go to downtown around the corporate buildings or if I'm in a wealthy sort of area.......it would be rather out of place where I live if a guy was walking around in a suit and tie.


Not really, to be honest, there are plenty of people that wear suits in London and around this area but as the previous poster stated, you can express originality by wearing a suit but you still aren't being defined by a label. You can wear a maroon suit but you won't fall under any certain definition or label. You are creating a divide by creating a sub genre, if you listened to metal and didn't create a sub genre or fashion out of it, people would be more about the music than the image.



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16 Aug 2012, 3:32 pm

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Anything wrong in not following the fads?


You won't get a girlfriend with that type of attitude.

That is your personal preference, this is to state a universal standard of fashion but it also depends on culture. You can still take some of these tips and apply them towards a poorer background such as looking presentable, going to the gym or finding a style that makes you more universally attractive.

This isn't about conformity or non conformity, it is about using fashion to show that you are confident and increasing your chances with women.

Body language is something that is visually learned, not through theory or audio so my point still stands that you can use demonstrations of body language to imitate it.



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16 Aug 2012, 4:20 pm

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Anything wrong in not following the fads?


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That is your personal preference, this is to state a universal standard of fashion but it also depends on culture


I'm not a part of this "culture" - I mean I never felt as a part of this culture, society, whatever - so why should I follow it's codes?
Why should I not show "I'm not one of them, I'm not following their rules, I'm eccentric, freak and misfit"?

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You can still take some of these tips and apply them towards a poorer background such as looking presentable, going to the gym or finding a style that makes you more universally attractive.


And disguising real me?

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This isn't about conformity or non conformity, it is about using fashion to show that you are confident and increasing your chances with women.
Body language is something that is visually learned, not through theory or audio so my point still stands that you can use demonstrations of body language to imitate it.


I know it, but:
I don't need women who likes hollywood fops - if I ever want another relationship, I need women who likes me exactly as I am
And there I see a little problem: if I can play "hollywood fop" (fortunately I can't) - I could trick women to fall in love in my "mask" - not in real me. And this is just not right :? (And I think I'm not alone in this opinion)


I think - if someone is looking for "one night relationship" (what is horrible for me) - Ok, he can play hollywood fop
but when someone thinks about long-term relationship, it's much better to show real self from the begging

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You won't get a girlfriend with that type of attitude.


Are you serious?

My friend from studies always looks like a tramp and smokes a lot - and cause of this he was alone for many years - but then he meet a girl which looks as a tramp too, and is a chain-smoker. Now they are married
And it's not alone example

Even I - I was in relationship for quite a long time - and we break absolutely not because of my attitude or my "counter-style"


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16 Aug 2012, 4:26 pm

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You won't get a stupid girlfriend with that type of attitude.


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