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Women Are Racist by Evan Marc Katz

No, not really. But in John Tierney’s continued analysis of dating behavior, he cites some interesting studies that suggest that women are far less open to dating men of other races than vice versa.

African-American women said yes about 30 percent less often to Hispanic men; about 45 percent less often to white men; about 65 percent less often to Asian men.

Black women were the most averse to interracial dating, Asian women were the most open to it, and Asian men didn’t fare all that well.

I’m not going to hypothesize why – after all, I’m a dating coach, not a social scientist – but this very much corresponds with what I’ve heard from clients.

White women said yes about 30 percent less often to black or Hispanic men, and about 65 percent less often to Asian men.

With one exception. I’m a bit surprised at men’s openness to interracial dating. While I’ve personally dated women across the racial spectrum, I’ve only had a handful of clients who ever expressed preferences for women of other races. Then again, the demographics of my clients are probably a bit skewed towards upper-middle class white people.

3 more pages @ http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/women-are-racist/

I think aspie women would have more insight into and understanding of unusual behavior, so would tend to give the benefit of the doubt before labelling anyone as creepy.

id almost argue the oposite. AS by definition means you dont pick up on behaviors and things as well, leading to false diagnoses of both creepy and not creepy more easily. Thats something that no matter how well versed you are at something doesnt happen magically

That's how the rest of the world communicates. If you don't want to learn body language, you're not going to have much luck with socializing.

Knowing body language and being TOTALLY obsessed with it are two different things.

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And I stand corrected then.

As said somewhere above, unintentionally coming off as creepy is no one's own fault (particularly in the case of aspie males). But on the other hand misinterpreting behavior as creepy can be due to no one's own fault as well.

This seems likely. It's the only reason I can think of that explains why the women here seem so entirely reasonable in their definitions of creepy, while the rest of the world doesn't.

I think what MXH said is probably true as well. That aspie women out in the world have a much harder time figuring out which guys are being genuinely creepy and which aren't. But it still makes sense to me that, regardless of how accurate their judgement is or isn't, they are more likely to cut a guy who seems unusual to them some slack.

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It seems to me that aspies, men and women, tend to value boundaries more than most. That is, because we have such trouble setting them, and such trouble recognizing those of others, because we have to put so much more conscious effort into understanding them, we assign them even more importance than the average NT does (not that they aren't important to NTs too. it's just that, once we finally start to understand them, we take our adherence to them to greater extremes).

Combine that with (as blue_bean pointed out) an aspie woman's greater likelihood of understanding and forgiving behavior that is simply unusual, and it makes perfect sense to me that (just as has happened in this thread), when a bunch of aspie women describe what kind of behavior from men is off-putting in a mildly frightening or "creepy" way, they'd focus on those who do not respect boundaries, rather than those who merely seem odd.

While, for NTs, the focus seems to be on social normalcy (which leaves any aspie pretty much completely screwed). While they may be annoyed by someone who doesn't "fit in," they seem to have a vague but real fear of those who don't seem to even want to. Which, despite how much they may crave social acceptance, is how an aspie's behavior can come across.

Given the emphasis NTs place on "normal" social behavior, particularly the importance of sociality in most women's lives (which would also explain aspie women's seemingly greater difficulty with same-sex friendships), it's not surprising that who they consider creepy are those who they perceive (often incorrectly) as not caring about being accepted by the majority.

Then again, I may be completely full of crap. I'm hardly the expert on what constitutes normal human behavior.

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By definition a creep is:a person who behaves in an obsequious way in the hope of advancement.

Which means AS women and men, have a more educated view on the meaning of the word. Because trust me, there are plenty of creepy women out there too. So let's not just attribute this designation to the male gender!

uh yeah like ones obsessed with staring at people to watch/analyze their "body language". Isn't that most of them? lol

The fact that that is what we would have to do in order to understand body language doesn't mean that that is what they do.

From what I understand, they absorb it all almost subconsciously.

Yeah, we don't sit there and stare at people to pick up their body language. The point of being better at picking it up is that we don't have to stop and do any sort of conscious analysis.

Venger, so I come to understand you more here, can you tell me why you make posts like this assuming the most negative opinions about women? Is it due to past experience/you're soured by women you come across in your daily life and you're talking about them, or are you intentionally being a f**kwit and trying to get a rise out of women specifically posting here? Are you calling women on WP creeps?

The verdict is still out for me on whether or not it's mainly NT women that stare at people 24-7(whether they realize it or not).

So you are intentionally being a f**kwit, thanks for the answer.

Nobody is staring at anybody, that is just you making a biased and extreme negative assumption based on something airy fairy.

The correct way to think is that if you've met one creep who happens to stare at you (whether male or female) you've met one guy or girl that happens to be a creep. But you, you've never met one, you probably haven't been within 20ft of a woman in your life. So obviously it can't be negativity from harsh experiences and it has to be the latter.

When are guys like you gonna stop using WP as a bile bucket? The women that post here have personally done nothing to you. Why take it out on them exactly?

Go stare into the sun when it comes up. I hear it has some interesting body language.