rude women?

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In one of my more obtuse autistic moments I conversed with a stranger about toilet papers and the gory consequences of some brand's tissue being too thin.

ohhhhhhhh i probably have done the same. even people close to me have learnt to chime in with "TMI!! !" at times in order to quiet me down

I really tried not to go that direction. I hoped "it's awful" was sufficient...

Talk about a balancing act though... it's amazing how "normal" people do it all day long without a conscious thought! Of course, when they fail in a conversation, they just move right along as if the event never even took place!

Humans....

Meems is right. Women don't appreciate that attitude. You come off as really annoying and desperate. My guess is that you're the same in real life, which is why women are rude to you. If you are really serious about learning how to date, you're going to have to change your whole approach.

Yep, even as neutral a statement as possible (such as yours) is still too familiar for a product that's going to be going where it's going. Still, she could have just opted for a cold nod and left.

I have pretty much no experience with this. My own mother doesn't even seem to know me, and most people always have the wrong idea about where I'm coming from. I'm not sure how right this is, because I can't get inside their heads, but it seems like women more often than not make decisions about my personality based on what I am indifferent to. When I am honest, it seems like they interpret my lack of interest in most things that most people care about as weakness, and when I get frustrated and go after girls who seem more likely to say yes rather than ones I would actually like to say yes, they mistake my indifference to them as confidence.

I also have little experience with women who are unnecessarily mean, which is what the last few posts have been about. I guess I would consider the unpleasant behavior I get as cruelty rather than rudeness, and it isn't that common, but anyway, it makes me a lot more angry when women aren't clear with their intentions than when they are rude and honest. I can understand a polite "no," but it takes a lot of work to figure out if, "I'm busy" means that I should ask again later or if I should give up. The first time a girl told me that I kept trying for 3 months until I realized that she wasn't actually interested in me. It was awful.

Also maybe the reason I don't think I know any rude women is that if a woman reacted the way that lady did when BlueMax told her about the toilet paper, I would likely have laughed.

I did chuckle quietly to myself, thinking, "Well that was a silly reaction! Enjoy your sandpaper TP." It's nice not letting stupid things get to you.

The guy almost kicking & screaming because his milk was gone... that was just infantile! Considering his hefty build, it could be a good 'roid rage.

We live in such a cultural vacuum nowadays, there's really no established etiquette to speak of, so you don't really know what to expect. The only advice I can give is just to be brave in the brave new world and don't get hung up on peoples reactions.

I like to defend myself here. I never ever said all women are rude to me. I wrote many times I get along with older women, married women both old and young. today I talk to some women and they had no problem with me. I ask out two ladies today,and they didn't say yes, but there was no hostile between us. and they cool with me and I was cool with them.

now there another poster (can't rememer her name) who said when she reject men some of them go ''you b___h.
Now,if a woman does want to date me or hang out with me, fine. I have no issues with it.
that their lost, not mine.


if anyone think I hate women or angry at women, I apologize. I apologize to anyone here who may have been offended by some my stuff I said.
I don't hate women, Im not angry at women. And I am sorry if I got anyone here upset.

but one thing that does get me upset is work. My job, now that get me angry. But I have been working on my anger at work.
and trying not to yell at my co workers.

again, I am sorry to everyone. I have no problem with anyone here.

About the toilet paper thing, if it was a man who was given the advice, I believe the reaction could've been worse.
"yeah whatever, dude" at best.

If someone did that to me in Wallmart I would probably act cold too.

Why would you act cold? For what reason?

I actually gave this a lot of thought and concluded that if I were in the exact same situation as this woman, I would've probably said something like "I'm ok, thanks" and made myself scarce. 

Here are MY reasons:
I don't like it when a stranger talks to me in public places. I usually reply with minimum words. 
I did not ask for advice.
I want to form my own opinion about the product by using it myself.
I already would've been feeling uncomfortable being in Walmart because I don't shop there usually.

And for the reason why men would react worse is because I believe most American men hate being told that the choice they just made is a bad one and probably say something stronger back than "I DO mind."

^^^ There are some chest-thumping men who will really, REALLY react poorly (even violently!) if a rejection hurts their ego.

"No thanks, spoken for" isn't bad
"Not my type" starts to raise hackles
"f**k off you disgusting loser!" could have some neandrathals in a screaming rage!

I generally advise to start rejecting politely. It's not just for the man and his fragile ego, but also for your own safety (as awful as that sounds) because you never know if a strange man is a knuckle-dragger.

Honestly, I've learned if I don't sternly reject, a lot of guys think it's OK to keep trying. If that happens or any guy actually touches me(now my pet peeve is people touching me without a clear indication of it being OK) I do raise my voice and tell them either not to touch me or to leave me the f alone.

A lot of us are already walking around in fear, I'm not going to deal with it by trying to nice my way out of violence, I'm going to deal with it by loudly letting everyone withing hearing range know I feel threatened.

I wish this were true at bars and clubs as well! Unfortunately, lots of women like to "s**t test" (as it's called these days) men to assess their resolve and persistence. I've managed to walk home with a girl many times after she had initially blown me off by simply not giving up.

Don't get me wrong, though, I can't stand the games they play, but it's just the name of the game it seems. Do all of us AS men a favor and shame shame SHAME your girlfriends if you see them doing this!