How to tell if your girlfriend is a psycho.

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16 Feb 2013, 9:55 am

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Because it takes seemingly innocuous and regular activities like wanting to look good when going out, being obsessed with celebrities, and getting upset when the [controlling] bf tries to dictate who the gf can and cannot flirt with (read: speak to) and turns them into hallmarks of someone that is actually an 'psycho-killer'.


Except that's not what the video implied. Slapping another guy's ass despite your boyfriend's request not to be flirty with others is a sh*t move. Sure, the video is done with some humor and exaggerates things for the sake of humor, but many girls (specifically with HPD) do tend to be uncomfortably flirty with other guys even in front of their shocked and confused boyfriends, and I think that should be condemned and discouraged rather than enabled.

If the boyfriend doesn't have a problem with his girlfriend flirting with others, that's fine. But if he does, then such a request ought to be respected by a girl who considers herself to be decent.


You have completely missed the point. I'm not trying to justify bad behaviour whether it's from males, or females, no less enable it, I'm just illustrating why the video could easily be construed as mean.



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16 Feb 2013, 10:23 am

It would have been a better title if they said date instead of girlfriend, either sex can act that way.


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16 Feb 2013, 10:33 am

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It would have been a better title if they said date instead of girlfriend, either sex can act that way.

Its a website for guys by guys, its kinda expected they'd be asking about girls



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16 Feb 2013, 11:19 am

This seemed thread appropriate
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16 Feb 2013, 5:08 pm

^^^ LOL.

Another perfect example was today's two episodes of "Mystery Diners" http://www.foodnetwork.com/mystery-diners/love-hurts/index.html (Wish there was video for it somewhere...)

The first was a male supervisor groping and fondling every female patron and freaking out on anyone who called him out on it... the second was a female supervisor who went berserk if she wasn't the prettiest girl in the room - punishing all the staff around her (firing all the pretty girls, groping the waiters and punishing the ones who didn't like it) and giving free food to male patrons she could successfully hit on, charging them more for rejection.

Freaky, mentally-unstable stuff from both sides... blecch!



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16 Feb 2013, 5:15 pm

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Explain it to me, philosophers, why the video is mean?


I wouldnt say the video is mean.

However we have had every video about nice guys with complaints about how mean the video is because its stereotyping real males and this video is doing something similar with females.


Also: I happen to point out hypocrisy whenever I see it and actively complaining about threads with videos stereotyping males while making threads with videos stereotyping females is a perfect example of that




I am the OP of this thread, are you calling me hypocrite? If yes, then why? Did you ever see me complain about nice guys videos?



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16 Feb 2013, 5:17 pm

spongy wrote:
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Because it takes seemingly innocuous and regular activities like wanting to look good when going out, being obsessed with celebrities, and getting upset when the [controlling] bf tries to dictate who the gf can and cannot flirt with (read: speak to) and turns them into hallmarks of someone that is actually an 'psycho-killer'.


Does this sort of comment ring a bell boo?

Its the standard reply on those threads you despise so much if you tweak some of the specifics


What the f**k you are talking about?

Look dear Spongy, you either quote things I said from other threads to prove whatever you are talking about.... or just zip it.

And no, nothing of that ring a bell, not even a tiny bit.

Tbh, I have no idea what you are talking about and you sound to me you're just trolling.



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16 Feb 2013, 5:30 pm

periphery wrote:
Because it takes seemingly innocuous and regular activities like wanting to look good when going out, being obsessed with celebrities, and getting upset when the [controlling] bf tries to dictate who the gf can and cannot flirt with (read: speak to) and turns them into hallmarks of someone that is actually an 'psycho-killer'.



Being too obsessed with the opposite-sex celeb is not innocuous.

Touching a guy's ass is not an innocuous flirting, if you accept your bf to touch other women's butts then that's only you but not the majority of people.


Are you sure you're talking about the same video?


.. and oh, I remember something, according to you since I lack sexual experience then I have no right to talk about those matters and just shut up.



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16 Feb 2013, 7:53 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Because it takes seemingly innocuous and regular activities like wanting to look good when going out, being obsessed with celebrities, and getting upset when the [controlling] bf tries to dictate who the gf can and cannot flirt with (read: speak to) and turns them into hallmarks of someone that is actually an 'psycho-killer'.



Being too obsessed with the opposite-sex celeb is not innocuous.

Touching a guy's ass is not an innocuous flirting, if you accept your bf to touch other women's butts then that's only you but not the majority of people.


Are you sure you're talking about the same video?


.. and oh, I remember something, according to you since I lack sexual experience then I have no right to talk about those matters and just shut up.


Celebrity obsession, while not for me, is a pretty normal thing. You only have to look at the popularity of sites like TMZ and Perezhilton, plus the billion dollar gossip-mag industry to see that. Also, I didn't say you should accept 'your gf' flirts with other guys, but that doesn't give you the right to dictate who she can and cannot talk to, and moreover just because she does do that, or 'talk incessantly about celebrities' doesn't meant that she's a psycho killer that's waiting for the moment to slice you up with a meat cleaver.



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16 Feb 2013, 9:23 pm

You're taking the meat cleaver seriously.
and the video doesn't say to dictate her but to show her that you're not ok with that - big difference.

Again, you're talking things not related to the vid.



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16 Feb 2013, 10:03 pm

@boo
The point I'm trying to make is stereotyping certain, banal behaviours into indicators of some bigger, badder thing is not helpful to anyone. It's prejudice, and it only leads to marginalisation and discrimination, which I think is not helpful to any society.

In the video the makers took a set of behaviours and painted them into something bad ie, a 'psycho'. IT is no different than say for example
getting an African American male, who listens to rap music, wears bandannas and grew up in a certain neighbourhood and turning them into signs of a member of a gang, someone that should be feared and not trusted, because they are likely to rob you, or shoot you at any moment.

Or or taking a guy, that likes drinking cosmopolitans, listens to Kylie Minogue, and takes a lot of pride in his appearance and then saying he must be gay because of it. That he will likely corrupt your children, and is probably some perverted sexual being who is just waiting to take advantage of anyone with a penis and an as*hole at the first opportunity.

Or taking a Muslim woman, who chooses to wear a hijab, watches Al Jazeera and expresses anti American sentiment and turning those things into indicators of a terrorist, a likely suicide bomber with a bomb under her chador just waiting for the moment to pounce.

Alll of those traits I listed, regardless of the situation, do not mean anything in particular. They are not indicators of being a psycho, of being gay, of being a thief or a terrorist. But due to the way they've been stereotyped in society, they've created prejudice and caused entire groups of people who exhibit those behaviours to be subjugated and discriminated against.

I believe that social equality and justice are indicators of a mature, intelligent and civilised society. Taking a set of activities or behaviours and turning them into signs of what constitutes 'bad' people does nothing to further that cause it only creates prejudice, division and inequality amongst people. And as I said at the start, this is not helpful to anyone.

But if you want to live by the words in that video, ok, you are entitled to do that. But don't get pissy when you see some thing that could be
you, painted as some evil, awful thing that deserves being shunned by society. Because supporting this stereotyping of behaviours, only perpetuates the problem, and there's nothing to say that they next stereotype is not going to be you.



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16 Feb 2013, 10:40 pm

Wow people took this way too damn serious. Even for an aspergers forum. If you cant tell the parts in that vid that are serious and what is joking or at minimum be able to imagine how those things can be bad then just don't bother making such a big fuss.



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17 Feb 2013, 12:29 am

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Wow people took this way too damn serious. Even for an aspergers forum. If you cant tell the parts in that vid that are serious and what is joking or at minimum be able to imagine how those things can be bad then just don't bother making such a big fuss.

THANK you! :salut:



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17 Feb 2013, 12:37 am

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Wow people took this way too damn serious. Even for an aspergers forum. If you cant tell the parts in that vid that are serious and what is joking or at minimum be able to imagine how those things can be bad then just don't bother making such a big fuss.

THANK you! :salut:

Just because something is meant to be funny doesn't mean that it's not harmful. I could say the same thing to the both of you, don't bother replying if you can't see the bigger issue here.

Lets just hope the next 'life lesson' video isn't on 'how to spot a school-massacrer' detailing things like 'is a loner, lives with his mother @ 22, is on anti-depressants, and is dx with aspergers'. But then again, as long as it's funny, that'd be ok right?



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17 Feb 2013, 12:42 am

So, in clear English - what do you claim is this awful "bigger issue" we apparently keep missing?



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17 Feb 2013, 12:42 am

periphery wrote:
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Wow people took this way too damn serious. Even for an aspergers forum. If you cant tell the parts in that vid that are serious and what is joking or at minimum be able to imagine how those things can be bad then just don't bother making such a big fuss.

THANK you! :salut:

Just because something is meant to be funny doesn't mean that it's not harmful. I could say the same thing to the both of you, don't bother replying if you can't see the bigger issue here.

Lets just hope the next 'life lesson' video isn't on 'how to spot a school-massacrer' detailing things like 'is a loner, lives with his mother @ 22, is on anti-depressants, and is dx with aspergers'. But then again, as long as it's funny, that'd be ok right?

There is no bigger issue, its a joke video on a non serious website which we have dozens here arguing about. If you like making a big deal out of little things like for example instead of thinking about the victims to think about a link between school shooters then maybe the attention seeking in negative forms would drive out.

In case you didn't see it, I'm also referencing the negative attention seeking made in the video boo posted.