4 easy rules will avoid 98% of sexual harassment accusations

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Can you tell us the full details of what happened?

Once upon a time, my bro was dating this f*****g psycho chick, and they got into an argument. He decided that he had enough and said he was going to go home, but then...

...she threatened to hurt herself and then tell the cops that he beat her if he tried to leave. Those of you who know anything about NZ know that men are pretty much guilty until proven innocent in these kind of affairs so it was a serious threat. Believe it or not, this kind of s**t is not just "victim blaming". Bearing false witness is as old as the Ten Commandments, you'd be a goddamn fool to think that some maliciously-minded women don't exploit the system to their advantage.

As for those trying to figure out the motive behind the receptionist's actions? Do you think there needs to be one? Now it could be true that Fnord is full of s**t or is leaving out key details, but there are people out there who will ruin your entire goddamn life because of a petty thought passing through their horrible little minds. If you don't believe this, then I truly envy your sheltered, sheltered little lives.

I know full well people can be malicious

I can't see how a person saying 'Good morning' can be transformed into a sexual harassment accusation though

ie how did the receptionist phrase her harassment accusation?

"He said good morning to me every day and I felt really harassed!'

ie what was the substance of her accusation and how did she get it to stick?

if she added lies to her accusation what were they? the person she accused had a right to know what he'd been accused of so what was it precisely?

I wanted more detail - which hasn't been forthcoming - which always makes me suspicious

I can accept it probably happened but more detail would be appreciated

Women bashing. Don't you just love it? Just as bad as men bashing for other reasons. For people who are allegedly ore prone to being discriminated against, all of you who put women as bad apples all in the same basket, should be proud of yourselves!

Fnord's post always have a way of putting women down one way or another.

I take people for who they are. I certainly would never consider someone saying "good morning" to me in a workplace as harassment. There *has* to be more to it than that, and if there isn't he should have appealed or asked for clarifications.

I have recently had a legitimate sexual harassment case at work, and by another woman!! ! It went on for some time and I was so mortified I didn't even know what to think. Until I spoke about it with other people and they told me that was unacceptable. But does that mean I am going to think *all* women are like that?

And because there *are* more men who are inappropriate with me, am I just going to assume they*all* are? No.

So stop playing the victims, and speak on a case to case basis, and not put women all in the same category.

i do not see why some disbelieve fnord.

i have never been accused of sexual harassment, however i have inadvertently caused a social drama due to my attempt to avoid any chance of being accused of inappropriate behaviour.

when i worked in an office where there were mainly girls working at workstations, i was asked to investigate the cause of a girls printer not working, and i needed to check whether the connection between her computer and printer had become loose. i told her that i had to get on my hands and knees to crawl under her desk to check the connection, and she said "sure", but she was wearing a very short dress.

i told her that she needed to get up and stand aside so as i would have enough room to crawl under her desk, but she considered that i had enough room and she said "you've got heaps of room", and i said that unless she stood up and vacated her desk area, i would not be able to check her wiring.

she said i was being silly and i went back to my office. after a few minutes the boss (a lady) and the girl came into my room and the boss asked in a mildly hostile way why i would not check the girls wiring, and i said that i did not want the girl being paranoid that i may have looked up her dress, and that is why i refused.

the girl was very upset about what i said and later on she started to cry, and i was told that i had been very insulting to the girl by presuming she would think that.

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another contentious incident happened concerning a mechanic at another company i worked for. this was a few years later, and i was a programmer who worked from my home for a company that delivered groceries from warehouses to suppliers.
when i had to go to the work site as i was occasionally required to, when i parked in the dock area, i always was greeted by a young man, and i liked him and he liked me, and we had a reasonable amount of common interests. i always spoke to him for about 5-10 minutes before i went inside.

one day, there was another male who was with him, and the mechanic introduced him as his boyfriend, and then to my surprise they kissed each other on the lips.
i looked away and scratched the back of my neck, and he asked me what was wrong, and i said "sorry, i never knew you were gay", and then he said "i'm not gay!! !" and i was bewildered. i said "but you must be gay to have a boyfriend", and she said "what? i'm a girl!" and i said "ok, i guess you still look like a boy (assuming he was in the process of changing gender)", and she said "what do you mean "still", and i said "are you undergoing a sex change?" and she told me that she was born a girl and was always a girl and she was very upset that i thought she was a male for the many years i spoke to her.

i do not know why i thought she was a male really. she had a females voice and a feminine face, but she had short hair and was a mechanic and was often dirty so i assumed she was a male.

she did not take the matter further, but she was severely shaken when she learned i thought she was a male all the times i spoke to her.

Why don't we all make a petition to put all women back in the kitchen where they belong? Only allowed out if escorted by a male, and gagged so there won't be anything inappropriate coming out of her mouth?

Let's not give them to right to vote or to an education. Women have had it so easy after all.

How come you lot never have a good word to say about *any* women?

Hmmmm...just says more about *you* than it does about the women imo.

Not saying this was directed at me, but do note that I put a tactical "some malicious women" in there. I've met enough s**t men and women to be fairly misanthropic in general, I just have less reason to go on rants about men in a "love and dating" section. If you'd like, I would gladly go on about how stupid and ogre-like men and their ret*d games of dominance can be.

Given what I've observed of AS males who do and say very inappropriate, sexist things and then seem clueless about their mistakes, I'm more likely to believe that FNORD did something terrible he either isn't aware of or won't admit than that the receptionist was vindictive. Of course, the latter is possible. Women can be evil, as can men. But my observations tell me that the former is much more likely.

your post seems like a drunken rant, and i am comfortable in my assumption that it is not related to what i posted,
alcohol makes many people say things that they can not justify in the cold light of the next day.

Straw man and black-and-white thinking at it's finest.

Yeah, guys can be sexist without realizing it. And they wrongfully bash women because of their insecurities

And then posts like this make me

You have just insulted me directly and I will report you.

ok. report me. if i am banned, then i will see the light of day rather than stay here all day in the darkness of my atitude.


i never said anything against women. you can request that i be banned . and if i am banned, i will still have a life. we will see whether your hatred of me results in my banishment from this site, but i do not hate you as much as you seem to hate me.
i will talk no further to you but i think you can not let it go and i will be banned because you do not like me.
if i am banned because you do not like me then i will survive elsewhere,

If you guys want to know the number one reason you can never get laid or find a girlfriend, all you need to do is look at the general attitude of this thread. If you carry around this much resentment towards women it's bound to rub off on the few you interact with in real life, regardless of whether you realize it or not. If you refuse to aknowledge the role misogony plays in your insecurites, nothings going to change.

I don't think the issue is so much about them (AS men) being clueless. I think the issue is more about making a social feuxpah (as most people including NTs do occasionally) but then rather than learning from the mistake they blame the Woman and stubbornly defend the action. The social rules may not make sense to them, but there's no reason they can't be learned. Unfortunetly, some people are just too stubborn.

Listen to Sandra, guys...........She's trying to help you.

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Dafuq

Wise words, there might be two totally different sides of the story but we will never know.

That isn't AS that is stupidity