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15 Apr 2013, 2:03 am

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here some stats: http://www.statisticbrain.com/dating-re ... hip-stats/
on average there 86 single men to 100 single women. So, there are more single women than men are. (however, not 100% sure, but there are more
single men in their 20's than women, but once people hit their 30's single women number goes up)

and now if some single women are getting hit on by 9 men in real life, or getting 35 guys message on online dating.
it would show, that since single women out number single men, and that means that alot of single women are not getting into a relationship.
and alot of single women are getting ignored by men.

here a quote: '' On average, there are 86 single men to every 100 single women in America. So, the odds are slightly in favor of men finding a mate''


here another one: http://jonmillward.com/blog/wp-content/ ... esults.jpg
so, there are 5 women, (and 5 men but we don't worry about the men now)
woman 4: had 536+
woman 5: had 428+
woman 3: had 76
woman 2: had 48
woman 1: had 11

so woman 4 had 48.7%
woman 5 had 39%
so both woman 4 and 5 had 87.7% of men chasing them
woman 5 had 3.17 times more men message than all woman 1,2,3 combined
woman 5 had 5.6 times more message than woman 3
woman 4(the champ) had about 4 times more message than all woman 1,2,3 combined
and woman 4 and 5 had 7.1 times more message than all woman 1,2,3 combined

woman 4 had 7 times more message than woman 3.


Men have it much worse, look at the numbers.

The overweight man got 0 while the overweight woman got 11 - that means the overweight man wasn't even messaged by fellow overweight women! So who's more picky? Women obviously, by far.

The gorgeous women there get hundred of messages simply because they are much more likely to receive flirts (and pervy msgs) from overseas.

That doesn't mean the 2 average women aren't getting dates, each one of them got a nb of msgs (76, 48 ) more than all men. I bet they can date as frequently as the 2 gorgeous women.


And believe me, the woman with the lowest score would probably still getting more dates than the guys there; I know a girl on okc who is very overweight and she's like have already met half of the active male members there.


This isn't logical as these women are matching up with men ie men are getting a date

Also a lot of messages off men to women on dating sites are requests for sex - neither side is taking things seriously with those messages



Matching up as finding her long-term match and live happy after? that doesn't happen much on dating sites I guess. Plenty of the users there find their matches in real life.

Also refer to tyrion's post.

There's no stats of actual dating on okc, but based on that:
http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_a ... -Curve.png

"As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium. Very harsh. On the other hand, when it comes to actual messaging, women shift their expectations only just slightly ahead of the curve"
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... ne-dating/

I don't think many women would date guys whom they don't find attractive.

It's women, not men, who are after a small percentage.


How may one figure out how he/she is rated on average?


On okc or real life?

On okc I think you can know if you have a paid account, also by the number of flirts you get.

In real life? The number of flirts/attention you get but for males it's not that easy to figure because females rarely flirt, even with guys they find very attractive.



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15 Apr 2013, 2:26 am

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do, anyone believe that a small percent of single women are getting most attention from single men?


take online dating, you have 30 guys go after 1 woman, and now times that by 3, so now you have 90 guys going after 3 women.
so you have 87 women that are not getting chase by any of these men.

and in real life, you have single woman who getting hit on by tons of men, and alot of single women who are getting ignored.
and of course it going to be tough for men, because if alot of these single men are chasing after a small percent of single women, then these single women
can be picky and choosy.


and now men have to compete with other men to get a date, you ask a women out, only to find out, she been asked out by 10 men all ready.
so, now it's a competion between the 9 other men, and there can only be one winner and 9 losers.

and online dating is even worst, when you have to compete against 30 other guys to get a date.



Fat/ Morbidly obese or just grotesque looking women are the ones being ignored on dating sites. They will find a date however, but they won't have large numbers of 'quality' men hitting on them.

Any woman that is average to good looking will have an unlimited number of men going after her online. For example I created a fake online dating profile of a girl using just pictures of a very average looking woman. She was thin but nothing special or hot. I got 22 messages the first day and within a week my inbox had reached 100. After 1 month the inbox was at full capacity (500 messages). This was guys sending me first response messages, I never replied to the guys.

Now if that is what an average woman gets, can you imagine what a good looking girl gets? She must get 1000's of messages a month. How can she possibly pick 1 guy from that lot? Let alone reply to them all.

The competition online is immense for any non-fat girl. How can any guy possibly get a date when your competing against 100+ men a week for 1 girl?

You have 1 in 100 chance of a reply, and a lower rate at winning a date with her.



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15 Apr 2013, 9:22 am

Ratae wrote:
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do, anyone believe that a small percent of single women are getting most attention from single men?


take online dating, you have 30 guys go after 1 woman, and now times that by 3, so now you have 90 guys going after 3 women.
so you have 87 women that are not getting chase by any of these men.

and in real life, you have single woman who getting hit on by tons of men, and alot of single women who are getting ignored.
and of course it going to be tough for men, because if alot of these single men are chasing after a small percent of single women, then these single women
can be picky and choosy.


and now men have to compete with other men to get a date, you ask a women out, only to find out, she been asked out by 10 men all ready.
so, now it's a competion between the 9 other men, and there can only be one winner and 9 losers.

and online dating is even worst, when you have to compete against 30 other guys to get a date.



Fat/ Morbidly obese or just grotesque looking women are the ones being ignored on dating sites. They will find a date however, but they won't have large numbers of 'quality' men hitting on them.

Any woman that is average to good looking will have an unlimited number of men going after her online. For example I created a fake online dating profile of a girl using just pictures of a very average looking woman. She was thin but nothing special or hot. I got 22 messages the first day and within a week my inbox had reached 100. After 1 month the inbox was at full capacity (500 messages). This was guys sending me first response messages, I never replied to the guys.

Now if that is what an average woman gets, can you imagine what a good looking girl gets? She must get 1000's of messages a month. How can she possibly pick 1 guy from that lot? Let alone reply to them all.

The competition online is immense for any non-fat girl. How can any guy possibly get a date when your competing against 100+ men a week for 1 girl?

You have 1 in 100 chance of a reply, and a lower rate at winning a date with her.


and that why I don't do online dating



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15 Apr 2013, 9:30 am

billiscool wrote:
Ratae wrote:
billiscool wrote:
do, anyone believe that a small percent of single women are getting most attention from single men?


take online dating, you have 30 guys go after 1 woman, and now times that by 3, so now you have 90 guys going after 3 women.
so you have 87 women that are not getting chase by any of these men.

and in real life, you have single woman who getting hit on by tons of men, and alot of single women who are getting ignored.
and of course it going to be tough for men, because if alot of these single men are chasing after a small percent of single women, then these single women
can be picky and choosy.


and now men have to compete with other men to get a date, you ask a women out, only to find out, she been asked out by 10 men all ready.
so, now it's a competion between the 9 other men, and there can only be one winner and 9 losers.

and online dating is even worst, when you have to compete against 30 other guys to get a date.



Fat/ Morbidly obese or just grotesque looking women are the ones being ignored on dating sites. They will find a date however, but they won't have large numbers of 'quality' men hitting on them.

Any woman that is average to good looking will have an unlimited number of men going after her online. For example I created a fake online dating profile of a girl using just pictures of a very average looking woman. She was thin but nothing special or hot. I got 22 messages the first day and within a week my inbox had reached 100. After 1 month the inbox was at full capacity (500 messages). This was guys sending me first response messages, I never replied to the guys.

Now if that is what an average woman gets, can you imagine what a good looking girl gets? She must get 1000's of messages a month. How can she possibly pick 1 guy from that lot? Let alone reply to them all.

The competition online is immense for any non-fat girl. How can any guy possibly get a date when your competing against 100+ men a week for 1 girl?

You have 1 in 100 chance of a reply, and a lower rate at winning a date with her.


and that why I don't do online dating


This isn't really accurate. I recently learned I am rated only slightly above average on OKC--and with awful photos-- and have had no trouble getting lots of dates on that site. I'm sure it depends on where you live, though. My city has lots of single women, and OKC is very popular here.

I know other guys who are not Matt Bomer, by any means, who have been successful here too. But I personally think that clubs/our bar reviews in Austin are far more efficient for picking up women. But it's easier to find compatible qualities on a dating website.



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15 Apr 2013, 10:07 am

Ratae wrote:
billiscool wrote:
do, anyone believe that a small percent of single women are getting most attention from single men?


take online dating, you have 30 guys go after 1 woman, and now times that by 3, so now you have 90 guys going after 3 women.
so you have 87 women that are not getting chase by any of these men.

and in real life, you have single woman who getting hit on by tons of men, and alot of single women who are getting ignored.
and of course it going to be tough for men, because if alot of these single men are chasing after a small percent of single women, then these single women
can be picky and choosy.


and now men have to compete with other men to get a date, you ask a women out, only to find out, she been asked out by 10 men all ready.
so, now it's a competion between the 9 other men, and there can only be one winner and 9 losers.

and online dating is even worst, when you have to compete against 30 other guys to get a date.



Fat/ Morbidly obese or just grotesque looking women are the ones being ignored on dating sites. They will find a date however, but they won't have large numbers of 'quality' men hitting on them.

Any woman that is average to good looking will have an unlimited number of men going after her online. For example I created a fake online dating profile of a girl using just pictures of a very average looking woman. She was thin but nothing special or hot. I got 22 messages the first day and within a week my inbox had reached 100. After 1 month the inbox was at full capacity (500 messages). This was guys sending me first response messages, I never replied to the guys.

Now if that is what an average woman gets, can you imagine what a good looking girl gets? She must get 1000's of messages a month. How can she possibly pick 1 guy from that lot? Let alone reply to them all.

The competition online is immense for any non-fat girl. How can any guy possibly get a date when your competing against 100+ men a week for 1 girl?

You have 1 in 100 chance of a reply, and a lower rate at winning a date with her.


Sorry, but what are you comparing? Gratulation to your great test, if you would have tested further then you would have gotten the information that about 98% of the guys who wrote you, simply wanna have a cheap whore. So you get nothing and no respond for your request, as long as you were not in search for a guy that hopes to save his money for prostitutes. If I want to meet a men with an interest for an hornoest relationship, and 522 idiots are responding that simply want my bodies help for unemotional ejaculating, because they are to lazy to use their own arm and to get themself some playboys for the bathroom, then the woman definitely didnt get 522 responds. Only the ones, matching what she is seeking for are responses. The rest is spam, and molesting.

I also have been on such profiles as a teenager. In my profile I was searching for Email friends, normal contacts for normal friendship and interest for earnest but slowly relationship. I got ZERO responds. I got lots of messages by pervert idiots, that didnt even have so much interest in me to read at least my profile before writing me, where I want to meet. As had been written nowhere, as long as I dont have Email cotnact before, I feel comfortable with, never. I even got a married couple, that wanted me to join them for a love triangle. So do you think, this was a respond for my search for Emailfriends, normal friends or earnest relation ship partner? Or none of the mentioned, which leads us to the knowledge that this has not been a respond.

Because if I search for something, and meet something that talks about something completely different, this is no respond. If you are in search for something to eat, and I go to the toilette. you never would think that this could be a respond about your request for eating. Because you searched for food, while I responded with offering s**t. But you dont want s**t. So this is no respond to your request. It would simply be a insult against you.

If you are gay and searching for a partner for a lifelong relationship, what benefit do you have from 200 guys responding that they would be happy to meet you, because the male prostitutes are so expensive? When you are in search for an earnest partner, the only thing that is a respond is of a person who has at least, read your profile, and that agrees with you to be searching for an earnest relationships. Thousand idiots in search for someone that helps them to relax their arm muscles, is no respond.

So I read the responses the first weeks, but after that it was too dumb for me, I didnt want to waste any more time on idiots, simply searching for some pounds of flesh with a hole. Its not that I am prude. I also had some one night stands as a teen and so on. But if I write into a contact plattform, that I would be interested in people that are interested on being normal Emailfriends, or normal friends, or earnest relationships and you get as respond couples that need an additional toy for their bedroom, these people cant be interested in what I am interested. And I am not interested in people that are not interested in me. Which means interested in my interests, not my physical appearance.

According to the threads, that always ends with these explanation you could think, that the real problems of these men are, that they cant read. Thousend horny guys without money for a prostitute and willing to jump upon everything, are no help for a woman, seeking a partner. We all know that there are lots of these guys out there. But I simply dont understand, why the hell you think this misadvantage would be an advantage, when you are seeking a partner. Instead of searching a very long time until finally people are responding that are really, really interested, you get lots of spam you have to sort out. When you are getting dumb Emails about products you are not interested in like the 25. Viagra offer in the week, are you happy that someone offered you something you are not interested in or are you pissed off, because this spam is messing your Email account?



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15 Apr 2013, 10:17 am

Ratae wrote:
billiscool wrote:
do, anyone believe that a small percent of single women are getting most attention from single men?


take online dating, you have 30 guys go after 1 woman, and now times that by 3, so now you have 90 guys going after 3 women.
so you have 87 women that are not getting chase by any of these men.

and in real life, you have single woman who getting hit on by tons of men, and alot of single women who are getting ignored.
and of course it going to be tough for men, because if alot of these single men are chasing after a small percent of single women, then these single women
can be picky and choosy.


and now men have to compete with other men to get a date, you ask a women out, only to find out, she been asked out by 10 men all ready.
so, now it's a competion between the 9 other men, and there can only be one winner and 9 losers.

and online dating is even worst, when you have to compete against 30 other guys to get a date.



Fat/ Morbidly obese or just grotesque looking women are the ones being ignored on dating sites. They will find a date however, but they won't have large numbers of 'quality' men hitting on them.

Any woman that is average to good looking will have an unlimited number of men going after her online. For example I created a fake online dating profile of a girl using just pictures of a very average looking woman. She was thin but nothing special or hot. I got 22 messages the first day and within a week my inbox had reached 100. After 1 month the inbox was at full capacity (500 messages). This was guys sending me first response messages, I never replied to the guys.

Now if that is what an average woman gets, can you imagine what a good looking girl gets? She must get 1000's of messages a month. How can she possibly pick 1 guy from that lot? Let alone reply to them all.

The competition online is immense for any non-fat girl. How can any guy possibly get a date when your competing against 100+ men a week for 1 girl?

You have 1 in 100 chance of a reply, and a lower rate at winning a date with her.


What's your definition of a 'quality' man?



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15 Apr 2013, 10:32 am

billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.



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15 Apr 2013, 10:34 am

Schneekugel wrote:
According to the threads, that always ends with these explanation you could think, that the real problems of these men are, that they cant read. Thousend horny guys without money for a prostitute and willing to jump upon everything, are no help for a woman, seeking a partner.


There are men who also genuinely seek a relationship but there are also casual daters. I got a lot from dating sites, girlfriends, friends, sex but my dilemma is that my girlfriend I met from a dating website wants sex and I don't really want it anymore outside of marriage because I don't really have high desire for sex anymore and I feel like I don't want meaningless sex because I'm starting a Christianity explored course soon at a church so that should help. I would much rather be in the gym working out is my natural high plus I have lots of other interests that keep my time like drawing, tattoo art, murals, painting, reading, exploring architecture or scenery, playing video games or watching a film.



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15 Apr 2013, 10:40 am

So yes, I'm in a situation most guys want to be in except I have no desire for someone with a high sexual drive. Now someone with a drive to express themselves creatively and to share valued opinions, that's what I look for in a woman.

Maybe what I could say to these horny guys or pick up artist wannabes is to learn from the mistakes of others, although the damage is done, people can change and so can Mystery if he is willing to give his heart to a greater cause.



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15 Apr 2013, 10:48 am

Geekonychus wrote:
billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.


Edit post was seen as sexist when it wasn't meant to be.

Basically Natalie Portman or Emma Watson.

Edit: & someone you can hang out with like one of the guys but actually in a hot girls body, playing videogames, watching sci-fi films, going to the gym or book store together.



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15 Apr 2013, 11:58 am

Geekonychus wrote:
billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.
I like bill's threads. They normally have the most lulz. Though if there is something serious to take out of them, give it time and he will make some self discovery and progress, which is what we'd want for everyone here really (I hope).

Statistics might help validate a situation but don't do much in the way of fixing it. Information is useless if you do not use it to your advantage. For example this information would help a guy figure out what women are being ignored, and his chances are with the ones that aren't being ignored. It would also be a good starting point in figuring out which of the ignored women are ones a guy might like, and what qualities the guy has that might interest them.



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15 Apr 2013, 2:55 pm

JanuaryMan wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.
I like bill's threads. They normally have the most lulz. Though if there is something serious to take out of them, give it time and he will make some self discovery and progress, which is what we'd want for everyone here really (I hope).

Statistics might help validate a situation but don't do much in the way of fixing it. Information is useless if you do not use it to your advantage. For example this information would help a guy figure out what women are being ignored, and his chances are with the ones that aren't being ignored. It would also be a good starting point in figuring out which of the ignored women are ones a guy might like, and what qualities the guy has that might interest them.


In his defense, I think he's come a long way and is no longer reflexively sexist or in bed with MRAs, which will help his prospects, I think. I bet he is dateable. If he would make an OKC profile, I bet he would have some success.



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15 Apr 2013, 4:24 pm

Well... I am not sure what to say with all this obsessive number crunching.

Lessons learned:

1. For men, to care and to try harder tends to make things worse. Apply the law of least effort and things work much easier and it's also much easier to communicate wants and needs. Secondly, it's much easier to just wait and let someone message you on dating sites. Why bother competing? Life can be enjoyable without those headaches.

2. Women over 30 are more likely to be single because almost all the good guys are taken. Of the good guys left, they were ruined by a crazy woman in the past and likely no longer have any faith in dating or relationships working out.

3. Yes, men target the 18-29 demographic for reasons mentioned in previous posts. These men are also very smart at manipulation... a PUA tried to undermine me last week and he failed because I never reacted to him. The girl he targeted was with me and she left with me anyways. And this was at a pool hall they were trying it. the women in this demographic are easier to target because they are far less serious and more intersted in having fun and doing their soulsearching. Serious guys have enough headaches dealing with this type of women and often give up.

4. Noone is ever going to go for someone they aren't attracted to. You know almost instantly when you meet someone or see their photo online for example if you find them attractive or not. Everything else either falls into place or doesn't.

5. It's obvious that women have more options in my age group. They take full advantage of their options. As soon as they figure out which one they like best, they become exclusive with that person. The good ones don't sleep with anyone until they know which one they want, but I have trouble finding that type.



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15 Apr 2013, 7:50 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.


to show how internet nice guys, and MRA guys who complain how they can't get date, because they are always chasing after a small percent of women, that every other guys wants too.
when they can't get these type of women to date them, they try to make it look like these type of women represent the entire female population.



I done some research and found out that most of what MRA and internet nice guys say is full of crap. these mra and internet nice guys get pissed off when some woman reject them, but yet these same men, reject women all the time, usually fat women, older women.

and these mra and internet nice guys, keep going after the same small percent of women, that they have no chance with. and they get same results.
'I mislead in the title, he should be more why do mra and internet nice guys go after a small percent of women''.



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15 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

billiscool wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
billiscool is always making threads like this and I still kind of wonder what the point he's trying to get at is. The only thing I've really learned by reading through this is that Average woman are big macs and high quality woman are rotting crustacians in the garbage bin........Not sure how that's supposed to help.


to show how internet nice guys, and MRA guys who complain how they can't get date, because they are always chasing after a small percent of women, that every other guys wants too.
when they can't get these type of women to date them, they try to make it look like these type of women represent the entire female population.



I done some research and found out that most of what MRA and internet nice guys say is full of crap. these mra and internet nice guys get pissed off when some woman reject them, but yet these same men, reject women all the time, usually fat women, older women.

and these mra and internet nice guys, keep going after the same small percent of women, that they have no chance with. and they get same results.
'I mislead in the title, he should be more why do mra and internet nice guys go after a small percent of women''.


Yeah man, you're figuring it out. Good job! I think even average and some nice-looking women get overlooked by these losers. I know a super f****d up aspie guy who is a 27-year-old virgin and says he is only willing to date tall skinny blondes (he's literally 5'6 and skinny). There are plenty of fine-looking, gorgeous women to get overlooked by some of these folks.



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15 Apr 2013, 9:56 pm

How is it possible that there are fewer single men than women? The numbers of men and women are approximately equal, right? And the non-hetro community is pretty small, right? So if in the majority of cases each relationship has exactly one man and one woman in it, how is it possible that there can be an imbalance like that?

I didn't read the whole thread btw, I just read that there are 80-something single men to 100 women.