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09 May 2013, 10:39 am

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What are we debating here? Whether it's ok to use the term 'Eww' if you don't fancy a person?
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Yes, the debate basically started from this point.


The debate with who? I didn't see anyone saying it was okay to use that term and you stated you had a 'debate' with me yet it couldn't be with me as nowhere did you ask me whether it's okay to use the term you did ask why I saw "I'm not attracted" and "eww/yuck" as the same my answer being both mean the person isn't attracted.



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09 May 2013, 10:43 am

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Talk to hurtloam, she might let you figure out what's your problem.

I won't debate with you any further


I have no need to talk to hurtloam I don't have a problem because I hold a different opinion. Perhaps you're more suited to talk to hurtloam and have her figure out your problem though I guess it's projection and thinking you're always right.

This wasn't a debate. You asked me for my opinion, I gave it saying we hold different opinions, and you argue and argue basically telling me it's stupid and wrong for me to think differently than you.



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09 May 2013, 10:46 am

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It's my observation that attractive people get cheated on a lot

They tend to have more generic (and often very annoying) personalities and when a better looking person comes along it's therefore easy for a person to jump ship to another generic good looker

If you have good looks and all around you are less attractive people, your partner will likely stay as they will see you as the best one but if there are lots of equally good looking or better looking people around why should they stay? (this is when looks are important to the person) Yes some people want looks and to be faithful but a lot jump around if they can

That's how it comes across to me anyway

As for saying things like 'Eww' and 'Yuck' about people - some people are just more mature than others

In fact I often look at some of the men who are partners with standardly attractive women and while these men aren't ugly I can't see anything attractive/desirable in their features and try to imagine myself kissing them and think I just couldn't, so what is found sexually attractive definitely varies a lot!


And the answer to my question: "Are those people you find strongly focused on looks also have none to little focus on personality/compatibility?" in regards to your statement that people strongly focused on looks will prefer to trade in their partner.

Different opinions as I don't think eww/yuck is a matter of maturity seems to be more like a matter of different sensitivities and offense levels.



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09 May 2013, 10:50 am

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
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It's my observation that attractive people get cheated on a lot

They tend to have more generic (and often very annoying) personalities and when a better looking person comes along it's therefore easy for a person to jump ship to another generic good looker

If you have good looks and all around you are less attractive people, your partner will likely stay as they will see you as the best one but if there are lots of equally good looking or better looking people around why should they stay? (this is when looks are important to the person) Yes some people want looks and to be faithful but a lot jump around if they can

That's how it comes across to me anyway

As for saying things like 'Eww' and 'Yuck' about people - some people are just more mature than others

In fact I often look at some of the men who are partners with standardly attractive women and while these men aren't ugly I can't see anything attractive/desirable in their features and try to imagine myself kissing them and think I just couldn't, so what is found sexually attractive definitely varies a lot!


And the answer to my question: "Are those people you find strongly focused on looks also have none to little focus on personality/compatibility?" in regards to your statement that people strongly focused on looks will prefer to trade in their partner.

Different opinions as I don't think eww/yuck is a matter of maturity seems to be more like a matter of different sensitivities and offense levels.


The two often go together ie strong focus on looks and a nice personality a secondary requirement to looks, which is in my opinion why a lot of couples don't get on well - they are sexually attracted to each other but their personalities aren't matched

If you don't think saying 'Eww' or 'Yuck' about a person's looks/hair colour is immature that says a lot about you

Also what if you are the person sitting on your own hearing a group of others saying 'Eww' about how you look?
How does it make you feel?



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09 May 2013, 11:01 am

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The two often go together ie strong focus on looks and a nice personality a secondary requirement to looks, which is in my opinion why a lot of couples don't get on well - they are sexually attracted to each other but their personalities aren't matched

If you don't think saying 'Eww' or 'Yuck' about a person's looks/hair colour is immature that says a lot about you

Also what if you are the person sitting on your own hearing a group of others saying 'Eww' about how you look?
How does it make you feel?

Vastly different experiences as I find most couples who follow the attraction (looks) + appeal (personality) tend to get on well as they are sexually attracted to each other and enjoy the other's personality. I tend to find a lot of couples don't get on well when they forgo focus solely on attraction or appeal such as going just for appeal and then end up resenting your partner as you're repulsed by enduring sex with them or going just for attraction and liking what they look not who they are.

I'd feel nothing if other were saying eww about how I look as I don't care what others think of me and I'm way way way less emotional than others generally viewing things logically so I'd understand they're judging my looks not who I am as a person so I wouldn't be offended or see a reason for me to be hurt. Them not being attracted to me is not a reason for me to get all butthurt.



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09 May 2013, 11:32 am

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
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The two often go together ie strong focus on looks and a nice personality a secondary requirement to looks, which is in my opinion why a lot of couples don't get on well - they are sexually attracted to each other but their personalities aren't matched

If you don't think saying 'Eww' or 'Yuck' about a person's looks/hair colour is immature that says a lot about you

Also what if you are the person sitting on your own hearing a group of others saying 'Eww' about how you look?
How does it make you feel?

Vastly different experiences as I find most couples who follow the attraction (looks) + appeal (personality) tend to get on well as they are sexually attracted to each other and enjoy the other's personality. I tend to find a lot of couples don't get on well when they forgo focus solely on attraction or appeal such as going just for appeal and then end up resenting your partner as you're repulsed by enduring sex with them or going just for attraction and liking what they look not who they are.

I'd feel nothing if other were saying eww about how I look as I don't care what others think of me and I'm way way way less emotional than others generally viewing things logically so I'd understand they're judging my looks not who I am as a person so I wouldn't be offended or see a reason for me to be hurt. Them not being attracted to me is not a reason for me to get all butthurt.


Well I think this is mainly hypothetical as I think you probably haven't had this happen very often and hence think you'd deal with it better than you actually would

Take it from me, most people do not take kindly at all to their looks being criticised



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09 May 2013, 11:34 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Talk to hurtloam, she might let you figure out what's your problem.

I won't debate with you any further


I have no need to talk to hurtloam I don't have a problem because I hold a different opinion. Perhaps you're more suited to talk to hurtloam and have her figure out your problem though I guess it's projection and thinking you're always right.

This wasn't a debate. You asked me for my opinion, I gave it saying we hold different opinions, and you argue and argue basically telling me it's stupid and wrong for me to think differently than you.


The fact that you see them the same means that you're ok with the eww.

It also means that you have low constraints in manners, so you would say eww(or anything offensive) in front of your friends without feeling guilt and taking into account your friends' feelings

I didn't ASSume anything about your social status and life, I said I had no idea how sociable you are, so you might be popular and all today but this mentality of yours *will* bite you back in ASS one day.

Have a nice ASSY day.



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09 May 2013, 12:02 pm

Also AnonymousGIrl, you being immune against insulting expressions and being butthurt doesn't mean you should be ok with such behavior.


I am also immune against anything what strangers would tell me, I don't give a s**t - for example, I don't give a s**t what you and many WPers think of me, I am basically a jerk :lol:.

But I would be hurt if some friend or supposed friend says something degrading about me.

And I would be feel guilty if I say something degrading about others.

For instance, and this really happened here and nessa would remember it, I said once something degrading about women on dating sites, it was an anger moment and I said something degrading and ill-thought (i don't recall the exact wording) but it was like: "women on dating sites are crazy and obese!" maybe it was even worse than that.

This caused a series of anger reactions by some users here, I stubbornly defended my stand at first but then some reply made me realized that what I said was very insensitive and jerky (and not really true) and it did really hurt people: It hurt the women who are using dating sites, it hurt people with mental disorders, it also hurt overweight women. I felt guilty and unfair so I've apologized to all users.

But for you, this would be ok, and you do something similar yourself without apologizing or feeling regret, that's your problem.

That's the difference between me and you.



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09 May 2013, 12:03 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The fact that you see them the same means that you're ok with the eww.

It also means that you have low constraints in manners, so you would say eww(or anything offensive) in front of your friends without feeling guilt and taking into account your friends' feelings

I didn't ASSume anything about your social status and life, I said I had no idea how sociable you are, so you might be popular and all today but this mentality of yours *will* bite you back in ASS one day.

Have a nice ASSY day.

The fact I see them as same in the sense both are not being attracted to the person means I see eww as not being attracted to the person.

Seems you're having enough of an ASSY for everyone as you again make more ASSumptions while lying that you don't:
means you're ok with the ewww....ASSuming what I'm okay with
means that you have low constraints in manners, so you would say eww(or anything offensive) in front of your friends without feeling guilt and taking into account your friends' feelings...ASSuming what I would do as well as assuming that eww would be offensive to my friends and something that needs to be taken into account for them...just because you feel it is offensive /= everyone else does
this mentality of yours *will* bite you back in ASS one day...ASSuming to know what my future holds



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09 May 2013, 12:08 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The fact that you see them the same means that you're ok with the eww.

It also means that you have low constraints in manners, so you would say eww(or anything offensive) in front of your friends without feeling guilt and taking into account your friends' feelings

I didn't ASSume anything about your social status and life, I said I had no idea how sociable you are, so you might be popular and all today but this mentality of yours *will* bite you back in ASS one day.

Have a nice ASSY day.

The fact I see them as same in the sense both are not being attracted to the person means I see eww as not being attracted to the person.

Seems you're having enough of an ASSY for everyone as you again make more ASSumptions while lying that you don't:
means you're ok with the ewww....ASSuming what I'm okay with
means that you have low constraints in manners, so you would say eww(or anything offensive) in front of your friends without feeling guilt and taking into account your friends' feelings...ASSuming what I would do
this mentality of yours *will* bite you back in ASS one day...ASSuming to know what my future holds


True, I am assuming stuff about you but i don't think I am being mistaken.

The fact is that you see eww as simply not being attracted to the person, it wouldn't require rocket science to correctly assume that you are ok with the eww.



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09 May 2013, 12:15 pm

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True, I am assuming stuff about you but i don't think I am being mistaken.

The fact is that you see eww as simply not being attracted to the person, it wouldn't require rocket science to correctly assume that you are ok with the eww.

You're also assuming stuff about my friends. Why don't you think you're mistaken? Can you see into the future to tell me what *will* happen to me? Do you know my friends would be offended by eww and need their feelings taken into account?

Egh more like it'd only require an ASSumptous someone with projection issues to get that and think it's correct.



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09 May 2013, 12:19 pm

Can I ask how old you are AnonymousGIrl?



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09 May 2013, 12:25 pm

AnonymousGIrl wrote:
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True, I am assuming stuff about you but i don't think I am being mistaken.

The fact is that you see eww as simply not being attracted to the person, it wouldn't require rocket science to correctly assume that you are ok with the eww.

You're also assuming stuff about my friends. Why don't you think you're mistaken? Can you see into the future to tell me what *will* happen to me? Do you know my friends would be offended by eww and need their feelings taken into account?

Egh more like it'd only require an ASSumptous someone with projection issues to get that and think it's correct.


Your friends might be insensitive like you, it could be, friends sometimes share similar mentalities/values, but your life isn't just about you and your friends, you have and you're gonna have new coworkers, neighbors, colleagues, relatives, new friends, acquaintances...etc.

I am not ASSuming your future, I am telling about something inevitable to happen if you live a long life - if you keep thinking like you think today.

I am starting to find this ASS thing amusing, do you have ASS fetish or something?



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09 May 2013, 12:27 pm

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Can I ask how old you are AnonymousGIrl?


Yes you can ask whether I'll answer is a no as I'm guessing this will be some maturity bit/lecture.

Though ironic to me considering I'm not the one stating they're making correct assumptions about a person's social status and life, future, what they'd do, what would be okay for them, how they'd feel, and more. Not unsurprising though as it seems not being offended by something others are tends to have one piled upon.



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09 May 2013, 12:31 pm

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Can I ask how old you are AnonymousGIrl?


Yes you can ask whether I'll answer is a no as I'm guessing this will be some maturity bit/lecture.



You are ASSuming that she'll give you some maturity lecture if you tell her your age :lol:.



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09 May 2013, 12:36 pm

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Can I ask how old you are AnonymousGIrl?


Yes you can ask whether I'll answer is a no as I'm guessing this will be some maturity bit/lecture.



You are ASSuming that she'll give you some maturity lecture if you tell her your age :lol:.

I'm guessing and I even state so.