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08 Jun 2013, 5:19 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:
Leagues exist. It's a sad fact of life that no one can debunk.


Sorry, but that's just not the case. I've had people tell me that I could do much better, and I've had people tell me that I'm goddamn lucky to have what I have. I tend to agree with the second group but, the point is, opinions about what does or doesn't make a desireable partner vary pretty wildly.



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08 Jun 2013, 5:26 am

Well if you go through life, like me, being told that the other person can do better because you're ugly or don't have enoguh money, and you have it happen enough times, you'll think like me too.

And it's not even just me. Any unattractive person (males especially) will have a tough time getting even the women who are considered "unattractive." How many times have you read on here, for example, that perfectly fine guys had to act differently or gain muscle to get attention from women? That's proof that leagues exist right there, when people have to betray themselves to get even a little attention from the opposite sex.


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08 Jun 2013, 5:34 am

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Well if you go through life, like me, being told that the other person can do better because you're ugly or don't have enoguh money, and you have it happen enough times, you'll think like me too.

And it's not even just me. Any unattractive person (males especially) will have a tough time getting even the women who are considered "unattractive." How many times have you read on here, for example, that perfectly fine guys had to act differently or gain muscle to get attention from women? That's proof that leagues exist right there, when people have to betray themselves to get even a little attention from the opposite sex.


I agree but people experience life in different ways and many people will find ways of explaining things to themselves to make them feel ok eg someone who takes a dislike to them will be an idiot rather than it being due to them being unattractive. Hence in some peoples' worlds the concept of the league won't exist but it will for others. It's all a matter of perception.


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08 Jun 2013, 6:51 am

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Hmm. Ok. I mean choice in who'd be interested to date or anything.

But it's not that I think ''well, this guy has a car.... but that one's got a house and he looks so good, oh, and the other one is such a loser, never an option for me!'' <== Isn't that the league thing? That you think in such ways?


You said you do have some choice. Not everybody can say that.

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We are all desirable to somebody.


That’s simply false.


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08 Jun 2013, 7:34 am

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Hmm. Ok. I mean choice in who'd be interested to date or anything.

But it's not that I think ''well, this guy has a car.... but that one's got a house and he looks so good, oh, and the other one is such a loser, never an option for me!'' <== Isn't that the league thing? That you think in such ways?


You said you do have some choice. Not everybody can say that.

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We are all desirable to somebody.


That’s simply false.


I don't see how you can prove it either way as you can't possibly meet every other person on the planet to check if it's true or not

Thinking it's true is a far better strategy than thinking it isn't though as it gives hope


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08 Jun 2013, 7:42 am

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Its part of the reason why I think leagues is something people should truly consider. As bad as the idea of classing people from best to worst is, to a degree its a necessary evil in our society. Wish it weren't so though.

And hat said, there's a lot more to leagues than looks. Social status and financial status have very important values in determining a league for oth genders.


Quoted for truth.

One should knows his/her league before going to war... I mean for dating.



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08 Jun 2013, 7:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Its part of the reason why I think leagues is something people should truly consider. As bad as the idea of classing people from best to worst is, to a degree its a necessary evil in our society. Wish it weren't so though.

And hat said, there's a lot more to leagues than looks. Social status and financial status have very important values in determining a league for oth genders.


Quoted for truth.

One should knows his/her league before going to war... I mean for dating.


I agree too. Having your own house stands you in good stead as well as being good at admin and sensible, as you will be able to keep yourself and the other person out of debt etc


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08 Jun 2013, 9:53 am

I think it's all subjective, and at least in my case, it's on a person-by-person basis. People can pretend they have their little check-list of what they want in a mate all they want, but a lot of times the person they fall madly in love with is completely out of left field, at least that's what I've observed. I've rejected lots of "handsome" men because I found their personalities to be a complete turn off, and I've dated lots of "plain" men because who they were made them handsome to me.

Bottom line: everyone gets rejected, stop whining. If you don't like who you are, work on changing it or liking it. Nothing is more repulsive from a dating standpoint than a whiny person who feels sorry for themselves all the time, male or female. :roll:


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08 Jun 2013, 9:54 am

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YES. THANK YOU.

This works both ways of course, if you're not "Barbie" don't expect a "Ken".


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08 Jun 2013, 10:34 am

girly_aspie wrote:
I think it's all subjective, and at least in my case, it's on a person-by-person basis. People can pretend they have their little check-list of what they want in a mate all they want, but a lot of times the person they fall madly in love with is completely out of left field, at least that's what I've observed. I've rejected lots of "handsome" men because I found their personalities to be a complete turn off, and I've dated lots of "plain" men because who they were made them handsome to me.

Bottom line: everyone gets rejected, stop whining. If you don't like who you are, work on changing it or liking it. Nothing is more repulsive from a dating standpoint than a whiny person who feels sorry for themselves all the time, male or female. :roll:


nothing is more annoying than folks who never had trouble in dating telling people who never dated in their life ( male and female)
that they should stop whinning, and ''man up'', ''lose weight''( to women) ''stop being picky'' ( to both gender)
and how they should be so happy for being single, yeah because that so easy to say from people who never struggle in getting dates.



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08 Jun 2013, 11:03 am

girly_aspie wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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YES. THANK YOU.

This works both ways of course, if you're not "Barbie" don't expect a "Ken".


Is it just me or he looks like Bieber?

Btw you look like another member here if it's that you in the avatar.



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08 Jun 2013, 11:14 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:
Well if you go through life, like me, being told that the other person can do better because you're ugly or don't have enoguh money, and you have it happen enough times, you'll think like me too.

And it's not even just me. Any unattractive person (males especially) will have a tough time getting even the women who are considered "unattractive." How many times have you read on here, for example, that perfectly fine guys had to act differently or gain muscle to get attention from women? That's proof that leagues exist right there, when people have to betray themselves to get even a little attention from the opposite sex.


I agree with most of this. But it is true that some people have different standards as to what constitutes a "league." Some women care a lot about careers, success, power, and money in their partners. Others care about how chill, cool, or countercultural their partner is. I tend to fail both sets of tests unless I'm fake.

Looks are universal, but there is some wiggle-room as to what counts as good-looking also. Though there is near universal agreement on ugly.



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08 Jun 2013, 11:40 am

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It's not hard for lesbian women to get laid, as a general rule. I've had many many one night stands with women and I wouldn't refer to them as "slu*ty" nor do I consider myself "slu*ty" that term is pretty much a BS way to shame women for owning their bodies.


I guess you've never slept with any of the girls I've slept with, then. One of them patrolled every dating site known in Norway to find guys to sleep with and another would sleep with a new guy every week--despite claiming to be a devout christian who wished to wait until marriage.

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I can't imagine you're a gem to show to one's parents either, so I guess you can relate to the women you slept with?


Never claimed that I was one either, so what's your point? If I ever have kids, I'll pray to God that they won't do some of the stuff I've done, but I regret very little and I'm bluntly honest about it; thus, I smell cleaner than a lot of the "hollier than thou" hypocrites out there. Unlike most slu*ty girls, I've also had to put some effort into getting laid. I knew pretty much nothing about the girls I've had one-time encounters with (I don't even remember the name of everybody)--and thus didn't see them as slu*ty before I got to know them.

Lastly, because I'm both a full-time engineering student and also work a lot on the side and don't have time for a girlfriend, I deserved those one-night stands.


Haha, you think you "deserve" sex. Is that a joke or...


There are a lot of guys who post here that seem to think they deserve sex and aren't getting it. Of course there are a lot of guys who don't post here who think that too. I don't think anybody "deserves" sex, unless you pay for it explicitly. What gets me is the guys who post here with a "I deserve sex dammit but not with her, or her, or her, or her, but with that one really hot one over there who has her pick of all the guys"

I deserve sex with Vin Deisel. And the Rock. Actually I deserve a threesome with them!! ! ;-) If I ever became the richest person in the world, I bet I could make that happen! Then of course I'd be broke but it would be worth it.


Yeah, and that girl who has her pick of guys is always rejecting because "nice guys finish last" not because they have delusions about their compatibility with the girls they want or anything.


Nice guys finish last? Let me list every single man who was 'nice' and saved people from burning buildings, and got what ever woman he wanted because he worked for it. Oh wait those guys are losers, and are last in life. You must have lost all faith in humanity, you seem not to care about anything.


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08 Jun 2013, 11:49 am

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08 Jun 2013, 11:50 am

billiscool wrote:

nothing is more annoying than folks who never had trouble in dating telling people who never dated in their life ( male and female)
that they should stop whinning, and ''man up'', ''lose weight''( to women) ''stop being picky'' ( to both gender)
and how they should be so happy for being single, yeah because that so easy to say from people who never struggle in getting dates.


Well, how's whining about it working out for you so far? My dating life hasn't been a bed of roses either, but I'd rather work on myself and improving my social skills than have a pity party.


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