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08 Oct 2013, 2:57 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
and I don't think those women know him that deeply in order to sense those intangible lackings you're talking about, based on his post, they're neither his best friends nor his gfs.

For first impression women judge on tangible things (and tongue-smoothness is quite visible too) like what he does for life, his car, his... shoes, I knew girls who assume guys' statuses by shoes models and cleaniness (and not fo the size thing)


The shoes does seem to count for something, when I bought them new, people noticed, especially the women had something to say about it.



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08 Oct 2013, 3:05 am

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If he's speaking about his dating life with them, they're bound to notice something.

And I guarantee you most women are going to refuse to date a guy if he can't deal with, or stand up to, his own mother and keep his boundaries with her. Most women just won't go there. That may be something intangible, but it's also something that can stop a budding relationship in it's tracks.


True, I have problems with my parents. Although there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. They are just the way they are. Interfering, meddling and over protective parents. My mother, could be family of Temple Grandin. When my gfs goes to my parent's place, I always get comments about how strange my mother is. I thought it would be best if I just avoid the whole parents thing in the first place. That didn't go well either.

So Kjas could be right, from another angle. I don't know how to deal with it. My understanding of maturity is also coming under fire now.



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08 Oct 2013, 3:07 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Kjas wrote:
If he's speaking about his dating life with them, they're bound to notice something.

And I guarantee you most women are going to refuse to date a guy if he can't deal with, or stand up to, his own mother and keep his boundaries with her. Most women just won't go there. That may be something intangible, but it's also something that can stop a budding relationship in it's tracks.



and here we're back to the trio - tada!


How those who don't know him that well would know he can't stand up to his own mother: Simple, if he doesn't live in his own place and still living with his parents.

If he also relies on others for transportation then it's another obvious sign.

No need to talk about financial indepedence.

Annnd it's all tangible.


Not necessarily. Conversations with people can tell you all of these things. If you make plans and then mama calls and now he has to go get her a loaf of bread or something stupid like that.


I guess I have the inverse problem of this, because I don't do anything for my parents.



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08 Oct 2013, 3:27 am

People, especially women love to play games, and can never say whats REALLY on their mind. (We are all grown-ass adults here, right?)
I understand your frustration ...ohhh man oh man, trust me. :evil:

But yo dawg, you gotta' have a car, a job, and some independence (unless you're in college, or the mom's house situation isn't permanent for a long time)



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08 Oct 2013, 3:49 am

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People, especially women love to play games, and can never say whats REALLY on their mind. (We are all grown-ass adults here, right?)
I understand your frustration ...ohhh man oh man, trust me. :evil:

But yo dawg, you gotta' have a car, a job, and some independence (unless you're in college, or the mom's house situation isn't permanent for a long time)


I have a place, but it isn't finished yet, I am living in it though. So I figured it doesn't count.



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08 Oct 2013, 4:05 am

Stalk wrote:
FunkMasterMike wrote:
People, especially women love to play games, and can never say whats REALLY on their mind. (We are all grown-ass adults here, right?)
I understand your frustration ...ohhh man oh man, trust me. :evil:

But yo dawg, you gotta' have a car, a job, and some independence (unless you're in college, or the mom's house situation isn't permanent for a long time)


I have a place, but it isn't finished yet, I am living in it though. So I figured it doesn't count.


It should count, unless it's horribly unfinished.



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08 Oct 2013, 4:11 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Stalk wrote:
FunkMasterMike wrote:
People, especially women love to play games, and can never say whats REALLY on their mind. (We are all grown-ass adults here, right?)
I understand your frustration ...ohhh man oh man, trust me. :evil:

But yo dawg, you gotta' have a car, a job, and some independence (unless you're in college, or the mom's house situation isn't permanent for a long time)


I have a place, but it isn't finished yet, I am living in it though. So I figured it doesn't count.


It should count, unless it's horribly unfinished.


It's horrible :)



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08 Oct 2013, 4:19 am

Stalk wrote:
FunkMasterMike wrote:
People, especially women love to play games, and can never say whats REALLY on their mind. (We are all grown-ass adults here, right?)
I understand your frustration ...ohhh man oh man, trust me. :evil:

But yo dawg, you gotta' have a car, a job, and some independence (unless you're in college, or the mom's house situation isn't permanent for a long time)


I have a place, but it isn't finished yet, I am living in it though. So I figured it doesn't count.


So just wait some time until its finished, or bearable?



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08 Oct 2013, 4:40 am

^ I am glad to see another member being pragmatic and down to earth, and talking about real stuff instead of vibes, chakra and other such nonsense buzz.

Talking about pragmatism, FunkMasterMike please don't use this pic on FB or dating site.



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08 Oct 2013, 5:58 am

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Talking about pragmatism, FunkMasterMike please don't use this pic on FB or dating site.


You took the words right out my mouth/off my fingertips!

I looked at that photo and thought how without the silly arm pose, you'd really look quite attractive, but with it, uh uh .... no!



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08 Oct 2013, 6:40 am

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If he also relies on others for transportation then it's another obvious sign.


What about people who are legally unable to drive because of their sight?

I fall into this category.



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08 Oct 2013, 6:52 am

Tequila wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
If he also relies on others for transportation then it's another obvious sign.


What about people who are legally unable to drive because of their sight?

I fall into this category.



Good luck, you'll need it.



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08 Oct 2013, 7:40 am

Stalk wrote:
Kjas wrote:
If he's speaking about his dating life with them, they're bound to notice something.

And I guarantee you most women are going to refuse to date a guy if he can't deal with, or stand up to, his own mother and keep his boundaries with her. Most women just won't go there. That may be something intangible, but it's also something that can stop a budding relationship in it's tracks.


True, I have problems with my parents. Although there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. They are just the way they are. Interfering, meddling and over protective parents. My mother, could be family of Temple Grandin. When my gfs goes to my parent's place, I always get comments about how strange my mother is. I thought it would be best if I just avoid the whole parents thing in the first place. That didn't go well either.

So Kjas could be right, from another angle. I don't know how to deal with it. My understanding of maturity is also coming under fire now.


Women are always going to want to meet your parents if you expect to advance the relationship. It's another thing they judge you on. Sad but true.

The best thing to do might be to move out of state if you could somehow afford to do that.



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08 Oct 2013, 7:49 am

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No, it's not Boo. Women place more value on social skills including the above as described than you realize. It is one of the things many aspies guys struggle with, even the guys who otherwise would pretty much have it made. Often things such as this is one of the last things that hold them back. It's something that women notice, but as it's not obvious and tangible to many men, they discount it.

I have noticed you in particular like to discount things that are not tangible to you.


Could it not also be due to a bunch of ableist bigotry? For example, I've seen some women on dating forums claim that they would never date an aspie because they all have the "emotional maturity of 15 year old", and they generalise about the label.



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08 Oct 2013, 1:46 pm

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Talking about pragmatism, FunkMasterMike please don't use this pic on FB or dating site.


You took the words right out my mouth/off my fingertips!

I looked at that photo and thought how without the silly arm pose, you'd really look quite attractive, but with it, uh uh .... no!


The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ I am glad to see another member being pragmatic and down to earth, and talking about real stuff instead of vibes, chakra and other such nonsense buzz.

Talking about pragmatism, FunkMasterMike please don't use this pic on FB or dating site.


Actually I don't have a FB (the place where its a clique-ish popularity contest) and I deleted my dating profiles. I didn't use this pic for any of them, though. (Both are a complete waste of time)
I've lost 85 lbs, whats wrong with displaying my hard work? :lol:
But now that you mention it, I'll change it since I've had more results in the past few weeks.

Let me get back on topic. It's easier to talk to a general audience when everyone can understand. With so many religions, beliefs and diversity, there can usually be a middle ground that can be met by both parties.



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08 Oct 2013, 2:05 pm

this is a terribly confusing thread. I'm usually able to work out the nuances even in the most complex scenarios but this one I am not sure at all.

Let's have a go anyway..(please correct if wrong):

a) You liked one or two girls and mentioned this to your female friend(s) who are already married or in a relationship.
b) this woman or women friend(s) told you 'You are not ready' in response to you expressing a romantic interest in these other women (descriptions of which have not been given)
c) you have dated in the past and have introduced girlfriends to your parents in the past
d) you have been hearing 'You are not ready' in response to expressing interest in dating various females since the age of 10
e) we can only assume you were not told You are not ready when expressing interest in the females who ended up being your girlfriends in the past - but this is an important point so please clarify


Off the top of my head I would say that people who are not on the spectrum have absolutely no chance of knowing how you think or how you cannot think and would therefore base their advice on their own personal experience which in this case would seem to suggest they felt you were not in the correct place emotionally and maybe even intellectually to engage in a relationship with those particular women. Some people require a much higher degree of investment on all fronts in order to have a relationship with them and some are not as demanding. These friends of yours were just making a comparison assessment based on their knowledge of you and their knowledge or observation of those women you liked and concluding that you don't have what it takes to go out with those particular women in that particular moment in time. The fact they didn't say 'forget about it' or 'don't even go there' would suggest to me that they thought that given some attitude or belief changes on your part, you would stand a chance.

my 2 cents..