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05 Dec 2013, 11:23 am

WE men must stand up together and.... pee!

Ps: This line is stolen.


But seriously Geeko, why you have to remember to put the seat down while she doesn't have to remember to put the seat up? It is also her "birthright" to pee while sitting.

Also, do you poop before glancing at the toilet??



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05 Dec 2013, 12:07 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
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Also, the second part is a non issue. I'm a firm believer that if you can't remember to put the toilet seat down, then you don't deserve the privilege of peeing standing up in the first place. Exponentially so if you use the wardrobe instead. :wink:


What the hell?

Privilege my stripey fleas, it's your birthright!

Another lesson for a man moving in - don't 'grow a vagina'. She didn't start d'ating a wimp, so don't turn into one.

There's a difference between sensible compromise and being a doormat

Maybe it is a birthright, but with great power comes great responsiblility.


You have a responsibility to respect your partner as an equal, not put her on a pedestal.



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05 Dec 2013, 12:34 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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Also, the second part is a non issue. I'm a firm believer that if you can't remember to put the toilet seat down, then you don't deserve the privilege of peeing standing up in the first place. Exponentially so if you use the wardrobe instead. :wink:


What the hell?

Privilege my stripey fleas, it's your birthright!

Another lesson for a man moving in - don't 'grow a vagina'. She didn't start d'ating a wimp, so don't turn into one.

There's a difference between sensible compromise and being a doormat

Maybe it is a birthright, but with great power comes great responsiblility.


You have a responsibility to respect your partner as an equal, not put her on a pedestal.

This argument would only work if men were required to stand up in order too pee. They are not. If this were an equality issue, the truly fair thing would nobody standing. But it's not an equality issue, it's a courtesy issue.

I don't always stand up too pee, but when I do, I remember the toilet seat. If I ever did forget(occasionally justifiable) I would apologize and not react with indignation. What I find particularly ironic is how it's the men on this thread that are making a biggger deal of the issue than the women. As if being expected to use his penis responsibly is some slight against their manhood.

Maybe I'm just more mature and responsible than the average guy. Either that or I'm just comfortable enough in my sexuality that showing common courtesy doesn't destroy my manhood.



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05 Dec 2013, 12:36 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
WE men must stand up together and.... pee!

Ps: This line is stolen.


But seriously Geeko, why you have to remember to put the seat down while she doesn't have to remember to put the seat up? It is also her "birthright" to pee while sitting.

Also, do you poop before glancing at the toilet??


hey, jarhead, have you actually ever in your whole life cleaned a toilet?



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05 Dec 2013, 12:41 pm

leafplant wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
WE men must stand up together and.... pee!

Ps: This line is stolen.


But seriously Geeko, why you have to remember to put the seat down while she doesn't have to remember to put the seat up? It is also her "birthright" to pee while sitting.

Also, do you poop before glancing at the toilet??


hey, jarhead, have you actually ever in your whole life cleaned a toilet?


Yes, I clean my toilet, I am not some pig who bathes in poop. :lol:



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05 Dec 2013, 12:42 pm

In the end though, It's never about the toilet seat. If the toilet seat is an issue, It's merely indicative of a larger problem in the relationship. I think a person's reaction to this issue says a lot about someone's emotional maturity and ability to live with others.

If a girl finds the toilet seat up occasionally and goes on the warpath over it, she's seriously overreacting. If a guy leaves the toilet seat up and can't be bothered to apologize but rather reacts with indignation and defensiveness, then he's being an immature prick. If neither of them is capable of swallowing thier pride on this non-issue, what's going to happen to this couple when an actual real problem comes up?



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05 Dec 2013, 12:46 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
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Geekonychus wrote:
Also, the second part is a non issue. I'm a firm believer that if you can't remember to put the toilet seat down, then you don't deserve the privilege of peeing standing up in the first place. Exponentially so if you use the wardrobe instead. :wink:


What the hell?

Privilege my stripey fleas, it's your birthright!

Another lesson for a man moving in - don't 'grow a vagina'. She didn't start d'ating a wimp, so don't turn into one.

There's a difference between sensible compromise and being a doormat

Maybe it is a birthright, but with great power comes great responsiblility.


You have a responsibility to respect your partner as an equal, not put her on a pedestal.

This argument would only work if men were required to stand up in order too pee. They are not. If this were an equality issue, the truly fair thing would nobody standing. But it's not an equality issue, it's a courtesy issue.

I don't always stand up too pee, but when I do, I remember the toilet seat. If I ever did forget(occasionally justifiable) I would apologize and not react with indignation. What I find particularly ironic is how it's the men on this thread that are making a biggger deal of the issue than the women. As if being expected to use his penis responsibly is some slight against their manhood.

Maybe I'm just more mature and responsible than the average guy. Either that or I'm just comfortable enough in my sexuality that showing common courtesy doesn't destroy my manhood.



But it's not an equality issue, Geeko, any person, male or female, who always sit on the toilet before even glancing on it or turning on the light in case it's night, is someone who has a bad habit, a stupid habit I may say, of sitting on toilet without looking.

What this person should do is to fix his/her own habit instead of blaming others, if your gf always closes the lid then you can't blame her if you accidentally get yourself hurt by sitting on the lid or pooping on the lid - it's only your fault for not TAKING A LOOK at the toilet.



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05 Dec 2013, 12:48 pm

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In the end though, It's never about the toilet seat. If the toilet seat is an issue, It's merely indicative of a larger problem in the relationship. I think a person's reaction to this issue says a lot about someone's emotional maturity and ability to live with others.


No Geeko, it's simply an indicative that she has a bad habit of rushing to sit on the toilet without glancing on it or she's always preoccupied with her smartphone even while she's going there. And if you wanna go deeper, it's an indicative that she's someone who looks for fights over silly matters or always blames her owns faults on the man.



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05 Dec 2013, 12:56 pm

And oh btw, this seat thing has became a little funny obsession for me lately :lol:, I 've even called my mom about it and asked my sister what she thinks, and also my lesbian friend and they were like "wtf?", "Are they blind?". Mom thought I was drunk.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:02 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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In the end though, It's never about the toilet seat. If the toilet seat is an issue, It's merely indicative of a larger problem in the relationship. I think a person's reaction to this issue says a lot about someone's emotional maturity and ability to live with others.



No Geeko, it's simply an indicative that she has a bad habit of rushing to sit on the toilet without glancing on it or she's always preoccupied with her smartphone even while she's going there. And if you wanna go deeper, it's an indicative that "she's someone who looks for fights over silly matters or always blames her owns faults on the man."

..........And on the other side of the coin it's indicative of "a man who is too immature to simply apologize and do something extreamly minor to adjust his behavior" out of courtesy to his partner. Like I said earlier, If neither of them is capable of swallowing thier pride on this non-issue, what's going to happen to this couple when an actual real problem comes up?

The road goes both ways but you simply choose to absolve men of all responsibility. Not taking responsibility, is that a man thing? I guess I have a higher opinion of men then you because I don't think it is.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:04 pm

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In the end though, It's never about the toilet seat. If the toilet seat is an issue, It's merely indicative of a larger problem in the relationship. I think a person's reaction to this issue says a lot about someone's emotional maturity and ability to live with others.

If a girl finds the toilet seat up occasionally and goes on the warpath over it, she's seriously overreacting. If a guy leaves the toilet seat up and can't be bothered to apologize but rather reacts with indignation and defensiveness, then he's being an immature prick. If neither of them is capable of swallowing thier pride on this non-issue, what's going to happen to this couple when an actual real problem comes up?


I agree with you here if this is all about courtesy rather than lowering one's self to appease someone else.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:10 pm

All this doesn't answer the question why apparently a lot of western women (or it's just the Americans?) sit on the toilet without looking at it.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:16 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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In the end though, It's never about the toilet seat. If the toilet seat is an issue, It's merely indicative of a larger problem in the relationship. I think a person's reaction to this issue says a lot about someone's emotional maturity and ability to live with others.

If a girl finds the toilet seat up occasionally and goes on the warpath over it, she's seriously overreacting. If a guy leaves the toilet seat up and can't be bothered to apologize but rather reacts with indignation and defensiveness, then he's being an immature prick. If neither of them is capable of swallowing thier pride on this non-issue, what's going to happen to this couple when an actual real problem comes up?


I agree with you here if this is all about courtesy rather than lowering one's self to appease someone else.

The idea that appeasement (especially over such a minor issue) somehow means lowering yourself is just stupid. That kind of prideful BS ruins relationships. It doesn't make you less of a man to take your partner's feelings into account (even if they don't always make sense to you.) A relationship shouldn't be a competition. Same goes for non-romantic interpersonal relationships.

Actual men and women are capable of dealing with minor s**t without it becoming a gender war. This is only an issue for people who deep down are still boys/girls emotionally and haven't truly grown up enough to handle a real relationship.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:24 pm

If it's not an issue, why then act as if it is?

If you keep the seat up, then your partner shouldn't care, and neither should you.



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05 Dec 2013, 1:55 pm

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If it's not an issue, why then act as if it is?

If you keep the seat up, then your partner shouldn't care, and neither should you.
Oh for f**k sakes!! !! ! I'm sick of repeating myself............ Learn some reading comprehension.

Just because it's not an issue for you doesn't mean it's not for someone else. Thats self-awareness 101. Being aspies, I know a lot of us struggle with this.

This applies to nearly every living situation issue (not just the toilet seat.) Some people don't have problems with dishes left in the sink overnight or the floor not being sweeped. Others do. Should you just dismiss thier opinions because you don't think it's a big deal? No! If you have any social maturity whatsoever, you should at least try to take other people's feelings into account.

Will it really kill you to make one extreamly minor adjustment to your behavior in order to show your partner/roommate/familymember/whomever that you respect them? If you aren't capable of doing that then sorry, you are merely a boy, not a man.



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05 Dec 2013, 2:02 pm

I can read perfectly well, actually.

So according to your argument, your partner is a girl, not a woman, if she takes issue with this. Are you sure this is really where you want to go?

Also, you seem to be on the verge of some meltdown now. Just to let you know.