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03 Apr 2015, 6:39 pm

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You can't judge a person based off of a video session. People have multiple personalistic attributes that define who they are, and you won't be able to do that off of just one video. If you think this is possible, then I can only speculate how many people you've encountered and misjudged, being there was a potential outcome that any of said people would be new friends, or relationships.

I'm sorry, but not sorry.

Besides, the way you worded that could make someone feel pressured that they have to try to fit into meeting another's evaluation and if they aren't portraying to be themselves, then it could be seen as another misjudgment. So if she does a "video", then it won't prove anything.

I could do a video right now, but you'd only get a first impression of how I choose to speak to my audience. Good luck attempting to gauge someone for who they are, when they may just be doing it for acceptance rather than attempting to blend in.


A video isn't ideal as it's not going to represent a normal interaction but Goofy said she doesn't know anyone in real life who will be honest with her. If she wants to make one I'm happy to give my opinion -which will, of course, be one persons opinion.
I don't personally care what people look like or what their mannerisms are like etc so long as they are a good person but most people, in my experience, do judge people based on those things.


But Rabbers, why aren't you PMing me?



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03 Apr 2015, 6:41 pm

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But Rabbers, why aren't you PMing me?

maybe PM her?



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03 Apr 2015, 7:38 pm

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I'm really REALLY tired of feeling lonely, confused, frustrated, and jealous. I feel so defective because no one wants to have a romantic relationship with me. I do my best to be nice and talk to people, but nothing ever seems to be enough.

I've tried many times to get to know guys I've had crushes on, and they never like me back. Why am I such a turnoff? I've been told by guys that I "talk too much," but if I don't talk to people, they ignore me. How am I going to have any relationships with anyone if I don't talk?

I admit, I'm jealous of other people who can find people who are more than willing to go out with them, when all I get are "friends." It's frustrating, and I'm tired of being stuck like this. My self-esteem is already pretty low, and it lowers when I look at myself in the mirror.

What really confuses me is that many people online have told me I look beautiful, but I don't get told that as much outside of the internet.

Will someone please explain why this is happening to me? I'm really depressed and stressed out. Please give me an answer. I don't know what to do anymore. :cry: I feel like giving up on life as a whole.



Well first of all, if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone!


Yes I've been in this situation and as you might've seen, there are many threads started by tortured souls like you here on WP and many, many other people in this world who are in the same boat.

Forget that new-age, love-yourself, self-help/self-esteem bollocks! What really helps when you feel this way is to find others who also feel the same way. When you do, it really seems to make one feel a lot better and a lot less lonely. Loneliness comes from being disconnected with people and the perception that there isn't anyone else going through the same thing and/or who feels the same way. Breaking out of that perceived isolation is BY FAR the best way to boost your self-esteem.

Now for the practical side: Since you're female, I wonder if it has to do with how you dress and groom yourself. IDK what clothes you wear or if you wear makeup but for women, improving your wardrobe and wearing more makeup can reeeeeeeallllly help.



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03 Apr 2015, 7:44 pm

what matters most, is if one can live up to the adage, "be who you are and say what you feel, because the people who matter don't mind, and the people who mind don't matter."



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03 Apr 2015, 7:45 pm

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I'm really REALLY tired of feeling lonely, confused, frustrated, and jealous. I feel so defective because no one wants to have a romantic relationship with me. I do my best to be nice and talk to people, but nothing ever seems to be enough.

I've tried many times to get to know guys I've had crushes on, and they never like me back. Why am I such a turnoff? I've been told by guys that I "talk too much," but if I don't talk to people, they ignore me. How am I going to have any relationships with anyone if I don't talk?

I admit, I'm jealous of other people who can find people who are more than willing to go out with them, when all I get are "friends." It's frustrating, and I'm tired of being stuck like this. My self-esteem is already pretty low, and it lowers when I look at myself in the mirror.

What really confuses me is that many people online have told me I look beautiful, but I don't get told that as much outside of the internet.

Will someone please explain why this is happening to me? I'm really depressed and stressed out. Please give me an answer. I don't know what to do anymore. :cry: I feel like giving up on life as a whole.



Well first of all, if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone!


Yes I've been in this situation and as you might've seen, there are many threads started by tortured souls like you here on WP and many, many other people in this world who are in the same boat.

Forget that new-age, love-yourself, self-help/self-esteem bollocks! What really helps when you feel this way is to find others who also feel the same way. When you do, it really seems to make one feel a lot better and a lot less lonely. Loneliness comes from being disconnected with people and the perception that there isn't anyone else going through the same thing and/or who feels the same way. Breaking out of that perceived isolation is BY FAR the best way to boost your self-esteem.

Now for the practical side: Since you're female, I wonder if it has to do with how you dress and groom yourself. IDK what clothes you wear or if you wear makeup but for women, improving your wardrobe and wearing more makeup can reeeeeeeallllly help.


You should already know what I look like. I posted photos in this thread.



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03 Apr 2015, 7:49 pm

goofygoobers wrote:
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goofygoobers wrote:
I'm really REALLY tired of feeling lonely, confused, frustrated, and jealous. I feel so defective because no one wants to have a romantic relationship with me. I do my best to be nice and talk to people, but nothing ever seems to be enough.

I've tried many times to get to know guys I've had crushes on, and they never like me back. Why am I such a turnoff? I've been told by guys that I "talk too much," but if I don't talk to people, they ignore me. How am I going to have any relationships with anyone if I don't talk?

I admit, I'm jealous of other people who can find people who are more than willing to go out with them, when all I get are "friends." It's frustrating, and I'm tired of being stuck like this. My self-esteem is already pretty low, and it lowers when I look at myself in the mirror.

What really confuses me is that many people online have told me I look beautiful, but I don't get told that as much outside of the internet.

Will someone please explain why this is happening to me? I'm really depressed and stressed out. Please give me an answer. I don't know what to do anymore. :cry: I feel like giving up on life as a whole.



Well first of all, if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone!


Yes I've been in this situation and as you might've seen, there are many threads started by tortured souls like you here on WP and many, many other people in this world who are in the same boat.

Forget that new-age, love-yourself, self-help/self-esteem bollocks! What really helps when you feel this way is to find others who also feel the same way. When you do, it really seems to make one feel a lot better and a lot less lonely. Loneliness comes from being disconnected with people and the perception that there isn't anyone else going through the same thing and/or who feels the same way. Breaking out of that perceived isolation is BY FAR the best way to boost your self-esteem.

Now for the practical side: Since you're female, I wonder if it has to do with how you dress and groom yourself. IDK what clothes you wear or if you wear makeup but for women, improving your wardrobe and wearing more makeup can reeeeeeeallllly help.


You should already know what I look like. I posted photos in this thread.



Yer cute! :D

No srsly. The only suggestions I would give is don't put a picture of yourself in a mud mask online. And that bright pink lipstick doesn't look that good on you. I would go for crimson red lipstick and the best photos are the ones where you look more srs and aren't smiling. Or if you do smile, avoid showing teeth. Also definitely try wearing eyeliner and even some eyeshadow but go easy on it.

Since none of those photos show your full body I can't give you any more beauty tips other than I would try wearing short dresses and high heels and see if that gets menz attention(pretty damn sure it will).



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03 Apr 2015, 7:55 pm

Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
I'm really REALLY tired of feeling lonely, confused, frustrated, and jealous. I feel so defective because no one wants to have a romantic relationship with me. I do my best to be nice and talk to people, but nothing ever seems to be enough.

I've tried many times to get to know guys I've had crushes on, and they never like me back. Why am I such a turnoff? I've been told by guys that I "talk too much," but if I don't talk to people, they ignore me. How am I going to have any relationships with anyone if I don't talk?

I admit, I'm jealous of other people who can find people who are more than willing to go out with them, when all I get are "friends." It's frustrating, and I'm tired of being stuck like this. My self-esteem is already pretty low, and it lowers when I look at myself in the mirror.

What really confuses me is that many people online have told me I look beautiful, but I don't get told that as much outside of the internet.

Will someone please explain why this is happening to me? I'm really depressed and stressed out. Please give me an answer. I don't know what to do anymore. :cry: I feel like giving up on life as a whole.



Well first of all, if it makes you feel any better, you're not alone!


Yes I've been in this situation and as you might've seen, there are many threads started by tortured souls like you here on WP and many, many other people in this world who are in the same boat.

Forget that new-age, love-yourself, self-help/self-esteem bollocks! What really helps when you feel this way is to find others who also feel the same way. When you do, it really seems to make one feel a lot better and a lot less lonely. Loneliness comes from being disconnected with people and the perception that there isn't anyone else going through the same thing and/or who feels the same way. Breaking out of that perceived isolation is BY FAR the best way to boost your self-esteem.

Now for the practical side: Since you're female, I wonder if it has to do with how you dress and groom yourself. IDK what clothes you wear or if you wear makeup but for women, improving your wardrobe and wearing more makeup can reeeeeeeallllly help.


You should already know what I look like. I posted photos in this thread.



Yer cute! :D

No srsly. The only suggestions I would give is don't put a picture of yourself in a mud mask online. And that bright pink lipstick doesn't look that good on you. I would go for crimson red lipstick and the best photos are the ones where you look more srs and aren't smiling. Or if you do smile, avoid showing teeth. Also definitely try wearing eyeliner and even some eyeshadow but go easy on it.

Since none of those photos show your full body I can't give you any more beauty tips other than I would try wearing short dresses and high heels and see if that gets menz attention(pretty damn sure it will).


Ummm.... Unless you want me to look like hot mess. There's a reason why I don't wear much eye makeup, and that bright pink lipstick looks fine. Plus most dresses don't flatter my body type and I can only wear wedge sneakers and heeled ankle boots. If I wear any other kind of heels, I fall in them. Short dresses also don't flatter me either.



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03 Apr 2015, 8:58 pm

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what matters most, is if one can live up to the adage, "be who you are and say what you feel, because the people who matter don't mind, and the people who mind don't matter."


You could have at least credited Dr. Seuss :roll:



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04 Apr 2015, 12:03 am

I will be honest here.

You are sufficiently good looking without any type of makeup, that your relationship ills likely don't have anything to do with your looks, nor does it have anything to do with not being nice enough.

It's likely due to the social deficits that tend to come along with being on the spectrum, combined with aspects of your personality and how you interact with the world.

There are two things that have been scientifically proven to turn men off.
1. Crying women.
2. Depressed women.

In other words, men don't like damsels in distress. They don't want someone they have to re-assure has value as a person all of the time. These types of women are emotionally exhausting for men. If, when you approach a man, you are giving off "please accept me!" vibes, there is a chance you will push him away.

Men generally like energetic women who give the impression of being fun to be with. That is my observation anyway.



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04 Apr 2015, 1:35 am

I'd hate to be the bearer of bad news nearly every time, but I think that is a generalized statement on whether or not men dislike depressed women, or as you so put it: damsels in distress.

Sometimes I allow myself to conjure up the thought that every person has individuality, and people can find solace in every type of behavior when it comes to relationships.

A lot of people are drawn to different things, but because there is a high influx of those that are interested in others where they prefer someone with stability, a person with an "abstract" mind can also be of great potential as well.

Being depressed, or mainly I'd take a stake it's depression, is due to reasons that triggered it, either from inheriting from your parents or it could be environmental. Those who choose to see on the superficial standpoint are not those you want in your life.

Allow those you feel comfortable with to see what's beyond the broken smile, and perhaps the real beauty will emanate from within.

Once you find someone who accepts you, for you, then I'm certain your despondency will be inverted for better.

(Speaking from experience.) :heart:



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04 Apr 2015, 4:48 am

you look very nice goofy :)
no need to feel bad when you look in the mirror now...
For that particular pictures..I don't like the blue mascara because it doesn't match with anything else-you don't have that color anywhere else
And your hair looks better when it's a bit curly , not fixed on your head
I don't see what could be wrong with the lipstick :mrgreen:


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04 Apr 2015, 7:29 am

Have you tried Okcupid, Goofy?



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04 Apr 2015, 9:54 am

don't try it :D

[I mean it's just a personal opinion... dating sites..noh.....]


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04 Apr 2015, 11:06 am

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I will be honest here.

You are sufficiently good looking without any type of makeup, that your relationship ills likely don't have anything to do with your looks, nor does it have anything to do with not being nice enough.


I agree. And I was only trying to give her suggestions that would help her look even better.


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It's likely due to the social deficits that tend to come along with being on the spectrum, combined with aspects of your personality and how you interact with the world.

There are two things that have been scientifically proven to turn men off.
1. Crying women.
2. Depressed women.

In other words, men don't like damsels in distress. They don't want someone they have to re-assure has value as a person all of the time. These types of women are emotionally exhausting for men. If, when you approach a man, you are giving off "please accept me!" vibes, there is a chance you will push him away.

Men generally like energetic women who give the impression of being fun to be with. That is my observation anyway.


To some extent....But there are also a lot of men out there who want a woman they think looks good, even if she is a mopey gal who cries a lot. But one thing is true: Men really DO tire of women who constantly mooch for reassurance about themselves.



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04 Apr 2015, 5:55 pm

goofygoobers wrote:
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Nice old wiseman advices here...

but let's get pragmatic and not too in philosophy.

OP, first of all, post a photo of yourself; and let the ladies give you tip how look more attractive.

THEN we go into the other matters.


http://imgur.com/a/vKeK6
http://imgur.com/ZYQUVbK

Here's a few pictures.


you're pretty, depending on interesting and personality I'd date you, though in rl I'd never ask you out, just too pretty to think i'd have a shot. perhaps people in your area feel the same.

interesting colored eyelashes how did you do that?


I don't understand how I could be "too pretty."

I applied colored mascara. It L'Oreal Miss Manga Mascara in Teal Craze.


auntblabby pretty much explained it. you're seen as too good for men. I've been rejected by far too many pretty women to realize that I'm just not attractive/good enough for them. so i don't bother trying to talk to them. I've suffered enough rejection. get told you're ugly by enough of any group of people and you avoid said group. if 4/5 fast food places said you not good enough to work fast food would you bother asking the 5th place?

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I don't understand how I could be "too pretty." I applied colored mascara. It L'Oreal Miss Manga Mascara in Teal Craze.

what the "too pretty" comment was about, was that some men will not approach a woman who is so pretty that she immediately seems out of their league of what they rate [deserve]. and IMHO you are just-right pretty :)


Why don't they give girls they think is "too pretty" a chance?

And thank you. ;)


giving a chance would be if they asked us out . but having to ask them out means them giving us a chance and the results have been pretty girls don't give me a chance. perhaps pretty aspie girls might , but nt pretty girls won't give a chance and pretty girls are probably 9/10 NT. they tend to see themselves as better then others and therefore have more requirements/rejection reasons. though they could likely get almost any guy if they wanted to.
really from a not super attractive/ugly guys view its just not worthy the constant rejections that beat you down. I don't know how much more i can take before I break.

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But they never know if they don't give a chance. Also, I thought some people think looks don't matter..... This is so confusing.

the "looks don't matter" meme is about not having prettiness as a determinant of whether or not a man should ask a woman out on a date. not many people can grok that, it is a Darwinian thing that takes a lot of evolvement to look past. but to get back to your question, men don't like to be rejected, so if they judge a lady to be "out of their league" [too high-class/pretty/sexy compared to themselves] they won't take the chance so as to avoid what they have calculated to be likely rejection. as you have described, it doesn't feel good to be rejected.


So what should I do about that?


ask the guys out, that you like. I suspect most would be up for a date if even just cause you are pretty.



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05 Apr 2015, 11:46 am

sly279 wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
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goofygoobers wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Nice old wiseman advices here...

but let's get pragmatic and not too in philosophy.

OP, first of all, post a photo of yourself; and let the ladies give you tip how look more attractive.

THEN we go into the other matters.


http://imgur.com/a/vKeK6
http://imgur.com/ZYQUVbK

Here's a few pictures.


you're pretty, depending on interesting and personality I'd date you, though in rl I'd never ask you out, just too pretty to think i'd have a shot. perhaps people in your area feel the same.

interesting colored eyelashes how did you do that?


I don't understand how I could be "too pretty."

I applied colored mascara. It L'Oreal Miss Manga Mascara in Teal Craze.


auntblabby pretty much explained it. you're seen as too good for men. I've been rejected by far too many pretty women to realize that I'm just not attractive/good enough for them. so i don't bother trying to talk to them. I've suffered enough rejection. get told you're ugly by enough of any group of people and you avoid said group. if 4/5 fast food places said you not good enough to work fast food would you bother asking the 5th place?

goofygoobers wrote:
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goofygoobers wrote:
I don't understand how I could be "too pretty." I applied colored mascara. It L'Oreal Miss Manga Mascara in Teal Craze.

what the "too pretty" comment was about, was that some men will not approach a woman who is so pretty that she immediately seems out of their league of what they rate [deserve]. and IMHO you are just-right pretty :)


Why don't they give girls they think is "too pretty" a chance?

And thank you. ;)


giving a chance would be if they asked us out . but having to ask them out means them giving us a chance and the results have been pretty girls don't give me a chance. perhaps pretty aspie girls might , but nt pretty girls won't give a chance and pretty girls are probably 9/10 NT. they tend to see themselves as better then others and therefore have more requirements/rejection reasons. though they could likely get almost any guy if they wanted to.
really from a not super attractive/ugly guys view its just not worthy the constant rejections that beat you down. I don't know how much more i can take before I break.

goofygoobers wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
But they never know if they don't give a chance. Also, I thought some people think looks don't matter..... This is so confusing.

the "looks don't matter" meme is about not having prettiness as a determinant of whether or not a man should ask a woman out on a date. not many people can grok that, it is a Darwinian thing that takes a lot of evolvement to look past. but to get back to your question, men don't like to be rejected, so if they judge a lady to be "out of their league" [too high-class/pretty/sexy compared to themselves] they won't take the chance so as to avoid what they have calculated to be likely rejection. as you have described, it doesn't feel good to be rejected.


So what should I do about that?


ask the guys out, that you like. I suspect most would be up for a date if even just cause you are pretty.


I have, but they always say no.