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29 May 2015, 4:35 am

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only read half you s**t because you saying the standard "your bad thoughts caused you to be single" when I went into dating happy, the reality is dating caused my bad thoughts. if i'd never been treated bad never tbeen told I'm worthless or trash I wouldn't have bad thoughts.

also people put on different faces for different things. or do mililtiary personal go around with a killing mindset wherever they are?
I can be happy with friends or playing games and sad here. people are rarely the same everywhere.


Again, you're not taking any personal responsibility for yourself or your situation & instead blaming others. Others aren't thinking your thoughts or feeling your feelings. You are. Only you can possibly change them.

I find it extremely difficult to believe you're truly happy offline. Sure, you can experience happiness and be happy while hanging with friends, but over all, in general, you do not come across as a happy person.


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29 May 2015, 4:38 am

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Can you read?

They didn't get played. They got laid. This is not the 1950's. Women aren't afraid of being horny sexual beings with needs & desires every bit as real as a man's. Girl's can and do make the decision to hookup with guys for their enjoyment. Again, if just because it's not happening with you doesn't mean it's not happening.

You're mistaken. I didn't post that thread and I'm not a feminist.


Nope, they got PLAYED. And it's not their own non-existent sex drive these women are so terrified of, it's social consequences and loss of status they'll suffer within their circle of friends for giving out sex to a man and not being able to extract anything that actually interests them in return.

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I find it extremely difficult to believe you're truly happy offline. Sure, you can experience happiness and be happy while hanging with friends, but over all, in general, you do not come across as a happy person.


Because he isn't, and neither am I nor I'd wager most of the men here. As for you? Well, you claim to be gay and that's the case, then that means you don't have to deal with a lot of the crap us low-status straight guys do. So maybe you are better off than us. But the fact you still feel the need to shill out for feminists also makes me think you're not as content as you're letting on. :roll:



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29 May 2015, 4:40 am

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I don't buy this. Working on yourself is great, but work on yourself for you, not for somebody else. That way if it just happens that you are going to be single, you will be happy with who you are and what could be more important than that.


I agree with this, too. Do it for yourself & don't be codependent on anyone else for happiness.

However, if what you want for yourself is a partner in life, then do it for that goal, too. Whether for love or orgasms, seeking out a partner can certainly be a self serving thing. No, I'm not suggesting it should be a completely self serving thing vs. give/take/balance, just pointing out that people partner up for their own self serving reasons.


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29 May 2015, 4:41 am

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Can you read?

They didn't get played. They got laid. This is not the 1950's. Women aren't afraid of being horny sexual beings with needs & desires every bit as real as a man's. Girl's can and do make the decision to hookup with guys for their enjoyment. Again, if just because it's not happening with you doesn't mean it's not happening.

You're mistaken. I didn't post that thread and I'm not a feminist.


Nope, they got PLAYED. And it's not their own non-existent sex drive these women are so terrified of, it's social consequences and loss of status they'll suffer within their circle of friends for giving out sex to a man and not being able to extract anything that actually interests them in return.


:lol:

This is why you can't have nice things.. like sex.


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29 May 2015, 4:44 am

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Can you read?

They didn't get played. They got laid. This is not the 1950's. Women aren't afraid of being horny sexual beings with needs & desires every bit as real as a man's. Girl's can and do make the decision to hookup with guys for their enjoyment. Again, if just because it's not happening with you doesn't mean it's not happening.

You're mistaken. I didn't post that thread and I'm not a feminist.


Nope, they got PLAYED. And it's not their own non-existent sex drive these women are so terrified of, it's social consequences and loss of status they'll suffer within their circle of friends for giving out sex to a man and not being able to extract anything that actually interests them in return.


:lol:

This is why you can't have nice things.. like sex.


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29 May 2015, 4:48 am

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only read half you s**t because you saying the standard "your bad thoughts caused you to be single" when I went into dating happy, the reality is dating caused my bad thoughts. if i'd never been treated bad never tbeen told I'm worthless or trash I wouldn't have bad thoughts.

also people put on different faces for different things. or do mililtiary personal go around with a killing mindset wherever they are?
I can be happy with friends or playing games and sad here. people are rarely the same everywhere.


Again, you're not taking any personal responsibility for yourself or your situation & instead blaming others. Others aren't thinking your thoughts or feeling your feelings. You are. Only you can possibly change them.

I find it extremely difficult to believe you're truly happy offline. Sure, you can experience happiness and be happy while hanging with friends, but over all, in general, you do not come across as a happy person.


actually I got all this stuff from others who thought it. you think I just woke up one day and was like know what I going think I'm worthless. no it happen over the last 4 years of having others say it. fighting it at first then slowly less and less and less to where I just had to accept it. tried for so long to find women who didn't hink the same but there are almost none who aren't married or already in a relationship.

so either 90% of the women are wrong or I'm f****d up and worthless. which is morel likely, though you already expressed you think the same as them.

please go tell the women they need to go hit the gym and get thin. no right the all bodies are good movement has and is making it so its ok for women to be fat but men can't be even the tiniest bit fat.

but honestly I don't why i'd expect differently you a work out junkie and so you think everyone should be one too. I can't stand people like you. just because something works for you don't mean it will for others, why can't you just accept people are all different. or should we try to make you be straight just cause most people are. I think people should just be accepted and loved for how they are.

please just leave me alone ok.



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29 May 2015, 4:56 am

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I agree with this, too. Do it for yourself & don't be codependent on anyone else for happiness.

However, if what you want for yourself is a partner in life, then do it for that goal, too. Whether for love or orgasms, seeking out a partner can certainly be a self serving thing. No, I'm not suggesting it should be a completely self serving thing vs. give/take/balance, just pointing out that people partner up for their own self serving reasons.

I agree. And in a way, even giving (without expecting anything back) is self serving and selfish because it makes you feel better.



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29 May 2015, 4:59 am

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And in a way, even giving (without expecting anything back) is self serving and selfish because it makes you feel better.


It's a good it never happens then. :roll:



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29 May 2015, 5:04 am

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29 May 2015, 5:33 am

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please just leave me alone ok.

I'm sure goldfish didn't mean to put you down, sly. As an aspie you know how even with good intentions sympathy may come out as something mean or rude.



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29 May 2015, 10:34 am

Still it would be very much appreciated if this thread wouldn't turn into "let's give a bunch of unsolicited advice to sly, since all he knows is to blame the others", since that's misleading, off topic and invalidating towards him.

Could we please return to the topic of this thread?



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29 May 2015, 1:11 pm

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actually I got all this stuff from others who thought it. you think I just woke up one day and was like know what I going think I'm worthless. no it happen over the last 4 years of having others say it. fighting it at first then slowly less and less and less to where I just had to accept it. tried for so long to find women who didn't hink the same but there are almost none who aren't married or already in a relationship.

so either 90% of the women are wrong or I'm f****d up and worthless. which is morel likely, though you already expressed you think the same as them.

please go tell the women they need to go hit the gym and get thin. no right the all bodies are good movement has and is making it so its ok for women to be fat but men can't be even the tiniest bit fat.

but honestly I don't why i'd expect differently you a work out junkie and so you think everyone should be one too. I can't stand people like you. just because something works for you don't mean it will for others, why can't you just accept people are all different. or should we try to make you be straight just cause most people are. I think people should just be accepted and loved for how they are.

please just leave me alone ok.


No one can make you think thoughts - you think them. In my journey, I discovered that thoughts can certainly be influenced by biochemical factors and that detoxing some things and eating other foods had a profound improvement on my brain chemistry, and in turn my thoughts. But as for thoughts in general, we think them.. others don't think them for us.

You're only "f****d up and worthless" if you believe it. Change your beliefs about yourself and your whole attitude changes and you will instantly become more attractive to others.

I believe women should keep themselves healthy and fit, too. But the simple fact of the matter is that it's always been the male's role to be bigger/stronger/protective etc so women look to fitter men for partners, in general. Besides, there are women out there who LIKE fat guys & find them very physically attractive. What people don't find attractive more than anything is a negative attitude.

I'm not a workout junkie. I never go to a gym. I never lift weights. I do exercise regularly and do physical work at every opportunity, but I'm not what I would consider a gym rat. Also, fyi, I'm not attracted to gym rats either. Slim/lean/skinny athletic guys (think runners, soccer players, swimmers, yogis etc), yes, but not big built strong muscular guys. Everyone has their type. Well, most people have a physical/aesthetic type, anyways.

Why can't you stand people like me? We haven't done anything to you. The only thing I've done is encourage you to take the kinds of actions in your life that will lead to you being happier, healthier, and getting what you want - which is a girlfriend/relationship. Most people may be straight, but look around... most people are not very fit or athletic at all. Not being fit isn't a reason you're single. It may contribute, but it's not the reason. Your attitude/depression plays a much bigger role I guarantee it.

Maybe you need to go surround yourself with others who think others should just be accepted and loved? Seriously. Go chill with some hippies somewhere, or go to a music festival where everyone's high as kites and cuddling one another all day and night. Maybe that's your scene and you'll find some free loving girl who really likes you.


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29 May 2015, 1:18 pm

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Maybe you need to go surround yourself with others who think others should just be accepted and loved? Seriously. Go chill with some hippies somewhere, or go to a music festival where everyone's high as kites and cuddling one another all day and night. Maybe that's your scene and you'll find some free loving girl who really likes you.


Please stop. Any further reply in those tone will be removed.

Please stick to the topic of this thread.



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29 May 2015, 1:35 pm

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And in a way, even giving (without expecting anything back) is self serving and selfish because it makes you feel better.


It's a good it never happens then. :roll:


What do you mean it never happens?

Just yesterday I was on my way to my car and saw a girl looking into the windows of her running car.. as she'd locked her keys in. Had a quick chat and she was having a terrible week.. lost her job, had just used her last free call to BCAA (roadside assistance) etc. So, even though I was on pace to beat rush hour traffic, I hadn't used ANY of my 6 free calls from my membership so offered to use mine - and did - and hung around for an hour. We burned one and had a friendly chat.

A bit more on topic: When her boyfriend came out to see me standing there with her, his body language was instantly a bit aggressive/protective. (Granted, I was standing there in running shorts & sandles soaking up some sun.) She introduced me as the guy who works around the corner and is using his membership to call BCAA and instantly his entire posture & facial expression changed to one of acceptance and gratitude. I never bothered informing them I'm gay. :lol: I thought it was actually a good thing his initial reaction was what it was - as it shows he cares about her and would fight off some other guy.

But anyways, yeah, giving w/o an expectation of getting in return happens every day. I bet if more guys adopted this approach they'd create a lot more opportunities to chat up women and potentially get a date.


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30 May 2015, 1:38 am

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fat women, ugly women, horrilbe women hot women, attractive etc. they all feel entiltled the same guy.
well off ,attractive, athletic, cowboy type.


No we don't. :roll:
Just because women won't date YOU doesn't mean we don't like a variety of men.


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30 May 2015, 2:03 am

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Um, no.

Girls I work with tell me flat out they hooked up with some guy the night or weekend before because he was hot/cute/had a nice accent etc. Not that they met some guy and are hoping it leads anywhere... that they got laid. Period.

Again, just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean that girls aren't out there having sex for he pure enjoyment of it. Because they are. Apparently just not with you - and with your know it all attitude, I can see why.


And I just told you it's an attempt to save face because they got played. Gee, lack of attentiveness is one thing but this is just getting ridiculous.

Also, I just realized you're the same guy who posted that thread titled "Toxic Masculinity". I thought you'd have realized after the thrashing you got there that no one here's buying into your feminist crap, and insulting and demeaning us is certainly not going to help in that regard. :roll:


You don't think females can play guys? Pretty sure they can and even do.


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