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So what have you done regarding her so far, Otaku?

Oh, I'm not upset. I simply won't go out of my way to help somebody who thinks I'm lazy because I chose to be a housewife and mother rather than go to work outside the home everyday. Your lovely little assumption and my answer back to you is on the basic income thread. Go take a look at it if you are wondering what you did to cause me to withdraw my offer.

I had an idea to actually facilitate your meeting friends and girls who you could date. It would have been a hands on actual help type thing, and I've done this for a couple of other people and it works great. I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner, but when I remembered it I offered it to you. Till you blew it with your "lazy" comment.

I never assumed. i was only replying about your idea that everyone would stop working if they didn't have to. which most conservatives call such people lazy. I get called lazy because I am on ssi and despite my best efforts and the goverments theres always someone with more experience, well I have none so guess that makes sense.

my mom was and is a housewife, minus the wife since my dad is a monster who hasn't been in our lives since I was 1 luckily. I was only saying that cause usually when people say such things as everyone would do _____ its barbecue they would do that and assume everyone is like them. I didn't mean it as a insult. sorry If I upset or hurt you. I just was frustrated because I'm not super lazy and like to work. men can't be househusbands. cleaning is hard work I did it professionally at a college. so I don't think you're lazy it was just a comparative sorry <o.o>

more to life then money. I really don't care for money if I could work and still have the stuff I like and need paid for ie the standard income for just living I would. unfortunately the place I work can't afford to have everyone work full time. though lately the coworkers haven't been best to work around.

Sly, I know you're not the least bit sexist but now do you see how saying women have it easier can be misinterpreted?

That isn't at all what I'm talking about.

I never said everyone would stop working. I said a good number of people in certain fields and certain income levels would.

Also men can be househusbands. I know a couple of guys who do that. When someone is going to stay home with the kids then it's usually the partner who makes less money at work who does it. It's more common for the woman to do that but men can do it too.

Remember the guy who I've mentioned who I knew in school who was in the group of people that helped me learn how to act when I was about 13? He was extremely popular, handsome, played varsity ball, etc. He was the guy whose parents worked for the carnival and he went with them in the summer and I also went with them once and worked at the carnival for a while and travelled with them. He's the one who did a few porn movies and actually turned tricks with older women as customers because he was good looking, charming, and good in the sack. Well, know what he does now? He's a "manny". Yep. He's with this girl who has young kids and he stays at home and takes care of them.

Another guy I know who is married to a girl who has a good career quit his job as a librarian to stay home with their kid. He was a househusband. He was good at it too.

Mine tried that for a while during the first Gulf war when construction jobs were few and far between. I talked myself into a job I wasn't qualified for and did great at it and worked at a vets office doing actual procedures etc on the dogs and cats. They taught me how to do things and I did great. I supported us financially while my husband stayed home with the one child we had at the time. He sucked at it. He just sat around all day long. He would pick up the house and do the dishes and occasionally a load of laundry but that was it. I'd have to come home and do the work. I sent him back to work asap and quit my job and stayed back at home with my kid where I needed to be at the time.

However, to be a househusband you do need a little bit more of a manly personality and such or you will come across like a weak and whiny guy. I don't know why that is, but it's true.

As for the place you work for not having people work full time, thats probably because if you did work full time they may have to provide you with benefits. Keeping you part time is easier for the company. Have you ever considered doing something else? Labor type jobs or assemblyline type jobs pay more than retail and are easy to learn. My two boys do that for a living. My 26 year old has tons of construction skills and my 20 year old doesn't have many practical skills but they both make a good living working at plants that make car parts. They got those jobs through temp companies. Why not call a temp agency and see what they have for you?

I respect people who are househusbands; I know I am not qualified for the position.

You mean there's even more to housework than that? Dishes and laundry is already hard enough as it is. What other horrors could housework entail?

Many people, at spring time, do what's called "spring cleaning."

This is hard work. It involves, basically, taking what's in the house apart, and putting it back together again.

I don't indulge in this!

I knew I forgot to do something this spring.

sorry I'm not the best writing or at forming thoughts. I should have said most men can't. women don't tend to like men who earn less then them so it would be hard to get such a woman to be ok with her man not working and staying at home. this is why we see such few stay at home dads. this is why women demand a guy earn a lot so when kids come she can stay at home for a while before going back to work I hear anyways.

we don't have a lot of those jobs here. I worked at a cheap labor plant(use disabled people and pay them crap to put stuff together in packaging.) we dont' make much here. also they competitive jobs because as you say they pay better. I had applied to one even though unlikely i'd be able to get to it. they rejected me. I have no experience. even the 2 years of cashier expeience which i sugess is more like 6 months doesn't count apparently. I may never get a job. which sucks. so I don't know what to do with women as non will date a guy who doens't get paid good money , they wont' date a min wage guy, so they hellls no won't date a welfare guy. been in voc rehab for almost a year now and still no job.

I really shouldn't post or talk. I just seem to say stuff wrong and upset people.

Straightening up, sweeping, mopping, vacuuming, windows, dusting, organizing, changing the beds, cleaning the tub and toilet and counters, cleaning out the fridge, cleaning the oven, mending, ironing, vacuuming under the cushions on the furniture, washing and ironing curtains twice a year, flipping mattresses, cleaning out cabinets and drawers, deep cleaning on occasion, grocery shopping, meal planning, bill paying, dr's appointments, dentist appointments, shopping for things for the kids and your spouse, car maintenance, yard maintenance, calling repairmen, litter boxes, vet appointments, repairing things around the house, replacing things around the house, changing knicknacks and such when the seasons change and seasonal decorating, keeping the outside front of the house looking nice, etc. There is a lot more to running a home than washing clothes and dishes. A whole lot more. Thats why I get so pissed off when people think I do nothing all day long. I'm also not someone who goes overboard all OCD about my home. It's kept clean and neat but I'm not obsessive about it. However, I stay on top of things and keep things nice for my family. Could you imagine the state a house would be in if the only things ever done were dishes and laundry?

I also think that people aren't taught how to do that anymore. I know my kids friends have come to me before after moving out and not knowing how to keep things done in their homes. A lot of moms never taught their kids that stuff and these girls are too embarrassed to ask their own mothers so they ask their friends mother. I'm also the only "old school housewife" mom of any of the kids friends mothers, so they come to me with the questions. I'd really like to have the time and stuff it would take to create a video series on how to run a home. I'd REALLY like to teach a class on it. Of course it would take many lessons, and would be something that would run for about six months with a once a week class, and I think there would be interest in it but I have no place to teach it or anything like that. I had to learn all this on my own because my mother couldn't do housework and while my grandmother could, I only learned cooking and hoodoo from her, not much more in the way of housewife skills. My mom was one of those 70's women who prided themselves on their lack of homemaking skills.

It's honestly not hard to run a home, but it is a lot of work. Being organized helps a lot, with certain days for certain chores and things you do weekly, monthly, yearly and seasonally. I have all that in my head but when I started out I would keep lists on paper and the calendar. If you tell me the size of your home I can tell you what you should do to keep it up. I can give you a list of chores, etc. As I said, it's not hard it's just time intensive.

Having a nice home isn't something that just happens by itself. Somebody has to keep it up and make it nice in the first place. Also, even if you aren't messy at all and pick up after yourself, there are things that still have to be cleaned because over time they just attract and gather dirt and dust. People feel much better in a nice clean home than they do one that has been haphazardly maintained. I'll be happy to help you get yours up to standard if you need to do that and want me to help you. I've taught my daughters how to do that and helped their friends do it, so I'm more than happy to help you. I think it's an important skill and one that is sadly overlooked in today's world. It's also an important job and one that doesn't get the respect that it deserves.

I know mine didn't and it's not just girls who need such skills. They could come in handy for a bachelor such as myself.About 650 square feet.I'll be happy to hear your advice. Heaven knows the number of times I've tried to scrub something clean and after some time see it in the same state as when I started. Please tell me the secrets of getting this house really clean. I'd feel much more comfortable here if it was clean.

I'm not very good at square footage, so I'd probably need something along the lines of 1bedroom, 2 bedrooms, etc. I'm assuming yours is a one bedroom because 650 seems really small. My house is 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, living room, formal dining room, den, eat in kitchen, laundry room. The rooms are decent size, so it's fairly big. I can tell you what I do here and you can do your place the same way and it should work for you really well. As for the scrubbing and then not seeing results, I would need to know what exactly you are trying to clean. Different things require different techniques so if you ask specifically about a particular thing I can help you with it. This is how I keep my place clean.

Every day;

1. Pick up the house and straighten up. This means putting things away and putting them in the rooms they go in and in the proper place for them in those rooms. Just walk through and put things away and where they belong.
2. Gather up all garbage and take it out if the garbage can is full. This means the garbage in the bathroom and bedroom as well as the livingroom and kitchen. Also, if you have a cat, scoop out of change the litter box and change or clean any pet cages.
3. Wash dishes and put away afterwards
4. Make bed
5. Light dusting with a feather duster or dry cloth. This just means wiping off the flat surfaces and lampshades so no dust collects. Wipe up any spills, etc.
5. Sweep the floors if you don't have carpet. You don't have to vacuum if you have carpet unless an area looks dirty. Sweep and damp mop the kitchen floor. Damp mopping means going over it with just a wet mop and no soap. Also sweep the front porch and steps and back porch and steps if you have them.
6. Make sure all laundry is in the hamper or the place where you put dirty laundry. If you have a load to wash, wash it and put it away.

Things to do weekly so you don't get overwhelmed;

Monday - sweep and mop with soap all floors that aren't carpeted and vacuum floors that do have carpet. Also, run the broom around the where the ceiling meets the wall and over door frames and by light fixtures so you get any cobwebs that are forming.

Tuesday - Dust. You want to use something like Pledge and dust all wooden surfaces, and use a dry cloth or feather duster on lampshades and pictures on the walls. Also wipe off knicknacks that are sitting around and any hanging light fixtures. Wipe down the blades on ceiling fans. If you have wooden cabinets in the kitchen and bath, wipe them with Pledge too. Wipe of glass or metal tables, etc with windex and wipe off the kitchen table with soap and water.

Wednesday - Windows and glass. Using paper towels and windex, clean the inside of the windows, mirrors, monitors for the tv and desktop computers. Also wipe down windowsills.

Thursday - Bathrooms. Scrub the sink, toilet and tub and shower area. If the shower curtain needs washing, do it now. Replace hanging towels with clean ones. If you need to scrub the floor around the toilet, do it now. Wash bathroom rugs or toilet lid covers if they need it.

Friday - Beds. Change your sheets and wash light blankets.

Saturday - Outside work. Anything you need to do in the yard like cut grass, trim hedges, etc.

That's really the basics, there is a lot more but start on this and see how this works for you for a few weeks and then we can add more things later on.

Good luck!

Nothing too much so far just subtling flirting back and taking my time and too shy to just jump out and ask her out!

OliveOilMom I will try to implement your plan as best I can. I thank you for your advice.

AspieOtaku, you'd best get a move-on so you don't spend the next 50 years regretting your inaction and wondering what might have been. My success with women has been rather limited but it was always the result of me taking initiative.

If she wants you to ask her out she'll be glad you did. If she rejects you you've lost nothing since she wouldn't have gone out with you no matter what you did. In my personal experience most girls will let guys down gently.

Don't be afraid to take things to the next level. If you go to far, too fast with a woman, she will respond with gentle redirection, not outright hostility.