Do you find love when you stop looking? Why?
Me too.
But it's worse for us aspie guys because we are just less social.
The advice only seems to apply to people who already have a group of friends and acquaintances and people to talk to.
I think some of us here have nothing. No friends, no acquaintances, etc.
Me, I'm lucky to actually have a decent number of people to socialize with and interact with, so it increases my chances. But it doesn't guarantee anything.
Plenty of NTs with high number of friends who still somehow remain single for years and years.
Maybe some aren't looking for a relationship but I know for a fact that there are some that are.
This is why the advice only annoys me more.
I actually know NT males in real life who aren't looking and haven't got a relationship. These are guys with plenty of both male and female friends but they have no relationship and some have never had one.
I just think if it hasn't worked for them, what's the point of trying to be more social to their level?
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I met my 1st girlfriend online when I was not looking for a relationship. We became close friends & she made the 1st move. I met my 2nd & current girlfriend here on these forums when I was really desperate & kept posting about it alot. I believe sometimes one can find love when they're not looking but other times being desperate works too if you no how to play it; like talk about your good qualities, how your personality is within a relationship & the way you treat a partner.
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many of us dont' know how our personalities are in a relationship.
I don't know how I'll be in a relationship I've never had one. so I get anxious that I'll be bad and at time feel I should just never have one. but I could be great. its unknown.
The most common counter-argument I've head to this (which I disagree with) is that when you are desperate, you will be much less choosy and could end up in a poor relationship.
Yes, this did happen to me. I had an 'online relationship' but I refuse to consider it a relationship because of how terrible it was. If anyone asks I say I have never had one, and will continue to say this.
But people act like it is ALWAYS the case when no it is not.
You're right sir, desperate isn't the worst thing in the world and I don't understand all the hate/criticism for it.
If you can present it in the right way than maybe it can benefit you.
Sometimes you can even hide your desperateness but present your good qualities so that people can recognize it, if you know what I mean.
Like most of the time I am obsessed with the idea of a relationship, some would say I'm desperate but I dislike considering myself desperate, but anyway I do not show it at all I have asked friends and they say I come across as the exact opposite - content.
That's one reason I disagree with that you find love when you stop looking.
I don't actually look like I am looking to others, I do not give off a desperate vibe, I don't even appear to be interested in a relationship at all (or friendship) unless you actually get to know me as a good friend first, which is when I will begin to feel comfortable talking about it.
That is what they say. 'Just stop focusing on finding love, just LIVE YOUR LIFE, just do your own thing, and people will notice you for your confident energy/vibe you give off.' well this is what i have been doing.
Like I said I come across as content I literally appear to be the type of guy satisfied with his life, happy, confident in himself, etc. not insecure or not depressed or pretending to be someone they are not.
Self-assured, self-confident, etc.
But, you know what, while typing this message, after thinking about it, I found a little success by doing both. Mixed results really.
When I wasn't looking 3 girls had crushes on me in the 8th grade. But I literally WASN'T INTERESTED.
But when I was looking, 1, possibly 2, had crushes on me. This was 10th grade and last year (11th).
And also this year I went on 3 dates, again I WAS looking.
So yeah...not sure which one of these is more successful. When I was looking 2 girls liked me, the girl I dated didn't feel the same.
When I wasn't looking 3 girls liked me...
Which one sounds more successful?
What do you mean? Easy because we don't have to wait, I haven't heard that one before?
All I've heard is that us males most often have to be the pursuers, but most of us do not like it and we feel we are forced to do it (which is what I believe).
And if the female is the one that have feelings for the male she may not pursue she will probably just hint her feelings and still get him to be the one to go after her.
But not just this but depending on the female this means some have lots of pursuers and can be choosy and pick someone else over you.
If she doesn't get that much male attention she still might enjoy playing games with you/messing with you when she could simply be open and honest with you.
And if you pursue her but she just doesn't feel the same she still has the ultimate decision in the end yes.
But we have the choice if a female has feelings for us and we do not feel the same. It is our choice if we are interested in her enough to ask her out or if we just want to reject her or 'friendzone' her.
And no it's not bad for male to reject female it natural if you don't want to go out with her.
But yeah it's more like we either pursue or she sets us up to pursue rarely are we pursued.
The most we are 'pursued' is just her continued effort to give us the hint instead of asking us out herself.
We might not pick it up, or if we do it's our choice to ignore/reject her advances so we do have the choice but the choice only exists if you are the one on the recieving end of someone else's feelings.
Which is rare anyway because if she likes us and we like her back but she makes us pursue her then it means we've given her all the power again.
To answer your OP - One of the methods of occult/new age "positive thinking" is to let go and stop thinking of what you want, to just trust it will come. Whether you believe in the far-out nature of that or not, I think it is good advice for all things. Desperate people rarely get what they want, and if they do they don't enjoy it. I find in my own life a lot that when I work on not needing something and being complete without it that is when I end up getting it. I think being relaxed and "let go" makes things come easier, makes you a person people want to give their time to
You need to look but in a laid back "what the heck" way, not caring is it works out this time or not
You need to look but in a laid back "what the heck" way, not caring is it works out this time or not
yeah can't think of any sitation where people really really really wanted something then got it and were ssuper happy. oh way yes I can because its very very very common.
ambition, desperate, two names for the same thing. its desire.
I really wanted a ps4. i saved up got it, I've been enjoying it greatly ever since. I've always desired/been desperate for stuff and enjoy them. honestly if I didn't need/want them i wouldn't be happy with them. I don't enjoy things I didn't want. likewise. if I didn't want a relationship I'd just reject any woman who asked me out. so not wanting it wouldn't help me get one.
i don't give my time to people who could care less if I'm around or not. i don't get why otheres would want to do that. o.O
are women like cats?
cats hate people who love them and give them attention, but they love the one person who hates cats. so the one person who doesn't want to pet the cat ends up with it on their lap rubbing them.
You need to look but in a laid back "what the heck" way, not caring is it works out this time or not
I agree sir or ma'am., but like I said in my post, this is actually what I have been doing and how I appear to others.
I guess that steps already completed.
I've concluded what I also have to do is be more social and possibly even a bit more outgoing.
Because the 'you only find love when you stop looking' rule is actually B.S for aspies and only true if you are already social on a more NT level. Which is exactly what I will do. Because if we stop looking us aspies aren't that social if we talk to no one at school/work and spend all our time on the computer at home for example then not like we'd make any worthwhile social life.
That's step 2 I guess.
At school I have been more social, doing more things and meeting more people, etc. and hope to make something come out of this more friends relationship possibly etc.
I have also now been looking into possible groups to join outside of school but barely nothing has come up. I suggested youth group to my mum for me and my little brothers and sisters because I'm still young enough for them but unsure right now.
I also do not really want to join any groups alone would rather have someone with me where me and my little brothers and sisters can all be a part of.
Am I on the right track??
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very interesting to hear
I've just realized...after talking about it with friends.
I HAVEN'T been looking for a relationship this entire time.
I was talking about it all with my friend Sarah.
I said to her when you really think about it, I don't come across as someone desperate for a relationship, I don't even come across as someone seeking a relationship at all. And she agreed.
I asked her what her honest opinion of me was and how she thinks I come across to others. She said all these wonderful things that I agree with, not just to boost my ego but she was being genuine and honest. Confident, funny, calm, friendly, etc. Very confident she said. She said to her I come across as 'in the zone', as in completely self-confident and happy with who he is, etc. Not insecure or low self-esteem or any of that.
The thing is, even if inside I want a relationship badly, I do not come across this way to others.
That's what they say.
"Stop looking for love and you will find it. Just focus on your own life. Be happy, healthy, confident person, and others will be attracted to you." etc. well I HAVE been this, I've been this all year.
No girls have liked me or been attracted to me.
I've actually been much more social and confident this year.
I seem to attract plenty of people but not in a romantic way but only friends way.
People are drawn to me. I have much more friends and aqcuaintances. Plenty of people think I'm a nice person, funny, etc. etc. etc.
Not trying to sound arrogant but this is what people actually think of me.
I'm not too annoying or weird or stupid and I'm not bullied or anything like other aspies are sometimes.
I'd even say I feel mildly popular at just how much and what kind of attention I get.
But it has all come to NOTHING.
Like I was saying earlier in this thread, there is no point being the social confident NT person because even they can't get relationships.
Well, after talking with friends I realized this WAS me and this IS me right now.
I mean, seriously. I asked Sarah what she thought of me, had great things to say. Ask a random dude in my maths class what he thinks of me, 'f*cking talented! It's crazy you can write with two hands, etc.' (I'm a trained ambi-dextrous), ask this nice female acquaintance, has nice things to say about me, ask a male classmate from English, has good things to say about me, etc.
But I havent been looking for love this year. All I ever did was went on 3 dates with this girl I liked but she only wanted to be friends. I also had a crush on this one girl and talked to her a bit but it was just talking, normal talking. And I did ask Sarah about some of her cute friends, but that's literally it...
What else do I have to do????
My social life:
Basically this is what i got:
At school:
So I got 4 different places to go. 3 groups and the library.
GROUP 1: 4 male acquaintances, females occasionally also visit the spot but not part of the group but the other group there.
Group 2: Sarah and her group of friends. Mostly girls but two guys. 7 females 2 males. Friends with one female, acquaintance with 3 females.
Group 3: Barely ever hang out with these guys only just starting to yet but basically big group lots of people male and female. Have 1 female acquaintance here.
Library: Male friend to play chess with.
Out of school: 3 friends online, used to live in same place as them before moving. 3 best friends. male.
I definitely SEEM social enough when you think about it. But no apparently not.
The first girlfriend I had (age 21), I got because I actually started looking, and started ignoring all that stuff on how "it will happen when you least expect it". The social intuition of most aspies is so crippled that we need to mechanically learn how to flirt, need to seek out women, and need to make a lot of mistakes along the way.
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I totally get where you're coming from. I've been divorced for nearly 1.5 years and I have yet to be asked out on a date. I've gotten a lot more socially active, my confidence has grown, and I'm otherwise feeling pretty decent about myself. I believe that I have a lot of positive things to offer somebody.
NT guys just aren't interested for whatever reason and Aspie guys tend to get scared and run.
There's a part of me that wishes I could turn off my desire to have a special man in my life. At least it would save me from disappointment and/or heartbreak when things do y work out with a guy I'm interested in. No expectations, no disappointments.
I've got a good many girlfriends, but with busy schedules, we don't have a lot of time to get together.
I've nearly gotten to the point of "Why bother?" when it comes to social activities.
"No expectations, no disappointments" may very well become my new mantra.
Just had to vent.
I HAVEN'T been looking for a relationship this entire time.
I was talking about it all with my friend Sarah.
I said to her when you really think about it, I don't come across as someone desperate for a relationship, I don't even come across as someone seeking a relationship at all. And she agreed.
I asked her what her honest opinion of me was and how she thinks I come across to others. She said all these wonderful things that I agree with, not just to boost my ego but she was being genuine and honest. Confident, funny, calm, friendly, etc. Very confident she said. She said to her I come across as 'in the zone', as in completely self-confident and happy with who he is, etc. Not insecure or low self-esteem or any of that.
The thing is, even if inside I want a relationship badly, I do not come across this way to others.
That's what they say.
"Stop looking for love and you will find it. Just focus on your own life. Be happy, healthy, confident person, and others will be attracted to you." etc. well I HAVE been this, I've been this all year.
No girls have liked me or been attracted to me.
I've actually been much more social and confident this year.
I seem to attract plenty of people but not in a romantic way but only friends way.
People are drawn to me. I have much more friends and aqcuaintances. Plenty of people think I'm a nice person, funny, etc. etc. etc.
Not trying to sound arrogant but this is what people actually think of me.
I'm not too annoying or weird or stupid and I'm not bullied or anything like other aspies are sometimes.
I'd even say I feel mildly popular at just how much and what kind of attention I get.
But it has all come to NOTHING.
Like I was saying earlier in this thread, there is no point being the social confident NT person because even they can't get relationships.
Well, after talking with friends I realized this WAS me and this IS me right now.
I mean, seriously. I asked Sarah what she thought of me, had great things to say. Ask a random dude in my maths class what he thinks of me, 'f*cking talented! It's crazy you can write with two hands, etc.' (I'm a trained ambi-dextrous), ask this nice female acquaintance, has nice things to say about me, ask a male classmate from English, has good things to say about me, etc.
But I havent been looking for love this year. All I ever did was went on 3 dates with this girl I liked but she only wanted to be friends. I also had a crush on this one girl and talked to her a bit but it was just talking, normal talking. And I did ask Sarah about some of her cute friends, but that's literally it...
What else do I have to do????
NT guys just aren't interested for whatever reason and Aspie guys tend to get scared and run.
There's a part of me that wishes I could turn off my desire to have a special man in my life. At least it would save me from disappointment and/or heartbreak when things do y work out with a guy I'm interested in. No expectations, no disappointments.
I've got a good many girlfriends, but with busy schedules, we don't have a lot of time to get together.
I've nearly gotten to the point of "Why bother?" when it comes to social activities.
"No expectations, no disappointments" may very well become my new mantra.
Just had to vent.
I HAVEN'T been looking for a relationship this entire time.
I was talking about it all with my friend Sarah.
I said to her when you really think about it, I don't come across as someone desperate for a relationship, I don't even come across as someone seeking a relationship at all. And she agreed.
I asked her what her honest opinion of me was and how she thinks I come across to others. She said all these wonderful things that I agree with, not just to boost my ego but she was being genuine and honest. Confident, funny, calm, friendly, etc. Very confident she said. She said to her I come across as 'in the zone', as in completely self-confident and happy with who he is, etc. Not insecure or low self-esteem or any of that.
The thing is, even if inside I want a relationship badly, I do not come across this way to others.
That's what they say.
"Stop looking for love and you will find it. Just focus on your own life. Be happy, healthy, confident person, and others will be attracted to you." etc. well I HAVE been this, I've been this all year.
No girls have liked me or been attracted to me.
I've actually been much more social and confident this year.
I seem to attract plenty of people but not in a romantic way but only friends way.
People are drawn to me. I have much more friends and aqcuaintances. Plenty of people think I'm a nice person, funny, etc. etc. etc.
Not trying to sound arrogant but this is what people actually think of me.
I'm not too annoying or weird or stupid and I'm not bullied or anything like other aspies are sometimes.
I'd even say I feel mildly popular at just how much and what kind of attention I get.
But it has all come to NOTHING.
Like I was saying earlier in this thread, there is no point being the social confident NT person because even they can't get relationships.
Well, after talking with friends I realized this WAS me and this IS me right now.
I mean, seriously. I asked Sarah what she thought of me, had great things to say. Ask a random dude in my maths class what he thinks of me, 'f*cking talented! It's crazy you can write with two hands, etc.' (I'm a trained ambi-dextrous), ask this nice female acquaintance, has nice things to say about me, ask a male classmate from English, has good things to say about me, etc.
But I havent been looking for love this year. All I ever did was went on 3 dates with this girl I liked but she only wanted to be friends. I also had a crush on this one girl and talked to her a bit but it was just talking, normal talking. And I did ask Sarah about some of her cute friends, but that's literally it...
What else do I have to do????
That plus I think sometimes when you ARE confident, social happy etc. you actually come across as INTIMIDATING to others, which just has the opposite effect of what you want.
Anyway I have an update. There is a new girl I have a crush on and to be honest we're only friends right now but things aren't going too bad. And this happened when I stopped looking and just decided to be natural.
But, that's actually a complete lie and the truth is I am only TRYING and PRETENDING to make it all look natural, effortless, etc. like it's just happening when truth is no I am putting in maximum effort...
NT guys just aren't interested for whatever reason and Aspie guys tend to get scared and run.
There's a part of me that wishes I could turn off my desire to have a special man in my life. At least it would save me from disappointment and/or heartbreak when things do y work out with a guy I'm interested in. No expectations, no disappointments.
I've got a good many girlfriends, but with busy schedules, we don't have a lot of time to get together.
I've nearly gotten to the point of "Why bother?" when it comes to social activities.
"No expectations, no disappointments" may very well become my new mantra.
Just had to vent.
I HAVEN'T been looking for a relationship this entire time.
I was talking about it all with my friend Sarah.
I said to her when you really think about it, I don't come across as someone desperate for a relationship, I don't even come across as someone seeking a relationship at all. And she agreed.
I asked her what her honest opinion of me was and how she thinks I come across to others. She said all these wonderful things that I agree with, not just to boost my ego but she was being genuine and honest. Confident, funny, calm, friendly, etc. Very confident she said. She said to her I come across as 'in the zone', as in completely self-confident and happy with who he is, etc. Not insecure or low self-esteem or any of that.
The thing is, even if inside I want a relationship badly, I do not come across this way to others.
That's what they say.
"Stop looking for love and you will find it. Just focus on your own life. Be happy, healthy, confident person, and others will be attracted to you." etc. well I HAVE been this, I've been this all year.
No girls have liked me or been attracted to me.
I've actually been much more social and confident this year.
I seem to attract plenty of people but not in a romantic way but only friends way.
People are drawn to me. I have much more friends and aqcuaintances. Plenty of people think I'm a nice person, funny, etc. etc. etc.
Not trying to sound arrogant but this is what people actually think of me.
I'm not too annoying or weird or stupid and I'm not bullied or anything like other aspies are sometimes.
I'd even say I feel mildly popular at just how much and what kind of attention I get.
But it has all come to NOTHING.
Like I was saying earlier in this thread, there is no point being the social confident NT person because even they can't get relationships.
Well, after talking with friends I realized this WAS me and this IS me right now.
I mean, seriously. I asked Sarah what she thought of me, had great things to say. Ask a random dude in my maths class what he thinks of me, 'f*cking talented! It's crazy you can write with two hands, etc.' (I'm a trained ambi-dextrous), ask this nice female acquaintance, has nice things to say about me, ask a male classmate from English, has good things to say about me, etc.
But I havent been looking for love this year. All I ever did was went on 3 dates with this girl I liked but she only wanted to be friends. I also had a crush on this one girl and talked to her a bit but it was just talking, normal talking. And I did ask Sarah about some of her cute friends, but that's literally it...
What else do I have to do????
why do they get scared and run?
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