The value of men

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Not everyone who wants stability it a gold digger.

^^The problem is not only the gold diggers; but the financial women's financial expectations from men, like this common woman preference "I want a man who makes more money than myself" - what if this man makes money later? Her attitude toward him will change, don't try to convince me that it won't, a woman with this standard before the relationship will tell the future of her attitude if this man's income drops; or her income increases.

The wage gap varies between 10% to 20% in the world, yet many women expect men to pay 100% of dinners (even if she's the one who invited him or suggested it), outings, expensive vacations and the courting costs.

I think you have seen my other thread where there's a video talking about this female financial entitlement - and how common it is, among women.

In some countries men are obligated to pay 100% of the house - women can choose to contribute , but are not obligated.

In islamist countries for example; under the islamic law, women have no obligation to pay for anything, even if she works and earns money she can keep all the money for her own only and she can choose to not share it with anyone, even with her kids.
In fact, she can choose to let her kids die from starvation and it wouldn't be even considered a crime from her part according to Islamic law - it will in fact, punishes the father, even if he's jobless - because according to this law, he is obligated to pay for everything, including his wife's needs.

In Japan, where the non-working housewife is a common role for women, the working man gives all his salary to the wife; and the wife would give him back "pocket money" - it can be as small as 5% of his whole salary.
The working woman in Japan though, has no such obligation toward her husband.

In China, it is expected from the male child, the son, to take care of his elder parents, to feed them, to finance them, to take care of their health...diapers....
Daughters there have no financial obligation toward their elder parents. - that's why when the gov enforced the one-child policy, female infanticide happened.

http://www.japancrush.com/2012/stories/ ... urvey.html

While the average yearly salary in japan according to wiki is : $3,234,308 a year - much less than 5 million Yen.



As you can see, women's financial expectation from men is even much higher than men's expectations from themselves! So imagine the amount of obligation and the pressure these women stress on their men.

Women, do you want to become 100% equal to men in everything? First, if you work (and if you can you should), then stop being greedy toward men. Stop.Being.Greedy.Toward.Men - if you are incapable to do that, you will never achieve true equality.

Ok this is getting ridiculous. Now I'm pissed off. I don't want a man then that makes less than me because then I feel he would be using me for my income potential. It can go both ways.

I'm not a gold digger. I want someone who is my equal.

Last edited by nurseangela on 16 Jul 2015, 2:30 am, edited 1 time in total.

You mean 'equal or greater than'.

That's right. I damn well do. No one is going to use me either. If you keep finding women who only want you for your money, then don't go out with them. Simple as that. Or, here's what you can do, tell them you only make a certain amount and hide the rest. Why do they need to know what you make anyway?

Because they, like you, only like guys who make at least as much as they do. They don't want to be used.

you could let him live according to his life style, only putting in what he makes and keeping the rest you make seperate, then he wouldn't be using you. personally I wouldn't use my love.

though most women think its find if the woman doesn't work and the man works and pays for everything or if the man makes more and pays for most everything. that's not equal. lies don't make a good foundation for a relationship either.

nurseangela, thanks for telling us what you really think. Saying that people don't care about how partner looks or how much money he/she makes doesn't help anyone. We all know that's not how it really is in the real world.

The value of men to women, is like the value of ATM to the card holder - the OP is an alien case, and as I said, most women would oppose to her.

And I even highly doubt that the OP applies what she claims here in real life; therefore, maybe not so alien after all.

yep, still sad though. I wonder sometimes if the human race us worth living. like if some aliens came here they'd probably see how horrible we are to each other and just wipe us out. who knows perhaps some day someone will nuke the world. only takes one person to start the chain reaction. perhaps the post nuked survivors will be kinder and more loving to each other.

It's odd that most men here complain about her claims about the guy's income, that are understandable to some extent, without saying a word about the other much more absurd claims. He drinks a couple of glasses of wine every meal, we're gonna divorce! He smoke a couple of cigarettes everyday, we can't be together!

In the end if one falls in love, he falls in love. We can act picky as much as we want in this thread, but in most cases it's pointless.

Well, relationships are difficult. If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. but it better work this time.

My dealbreaker is intelligence. I would be interested in an ugly poor guy if he is intelligent.

Currently I find myself dumped by my long time fwb. He is moving in with a woman I don't know in August.

So feeling a bit like a loser right now. And kinda jealous as they're moving into a house with a yard, which Henry would love! I asked him if Henry could run in it and he said it would be awkward. So I think it's a serious relationship.

I really am not relationship material though. I'm not much fun.

That's a bummer, Ann.

But this guy wasn't really reliable, anyway.

You have fine qualities, I believe.

I believe you should cultivate them more.

Thanks


He was a friend though. That has changed.


Thank you.
My facilitator tells me I should spend more time on self care. I'm trying.