Oh girls have it so much worse....

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Oh. And how about the rape comment? That was going a little overboard if you ask me. Not hearing anything about emotions in that comment, yet no other guy picked up on what he said and said how out of line that was. Explain that.

I'm afraid, at this point, you're blatantly distorting our words. Presumably, the "I'd have to end a relationship with a religious girl if I wasn't getting any sex for that reason" is about me. Well, I'd rather not get into that relationship in the first place. If she showed her true colors only later, then I'd leave her simply for deceiving me.

And The_Face_of_Boo's comment was criticizing rdos's dismissal of sexual compatibility by referring to the "good old days", in which a man didn't need his wife's consent to have sex with her. If you're asexual, of course sexual compatibility won't be an issue for you, but it is for the rest of us, and I'm not going to accept a sexually frustrating relationship. If I'm going to remain sexually frustrated, I'm better off staying single and free to look for someone truly compatible.

That's just it - it wasn't "the good old days" for the wife back then was it?
And I'm not going to stay with someone who can't fill my emotional void either so I guess we can all just stay single and right now I'm just fine with that. I'll just get my emotional needs filled by Waldo.

Well I do not mean it as guys are generally more likely to abuse, but statistically females have a higher risk of ending up in an abusive relationship...doesn't mean because someone is male they are more likely to be abusive, or because someone is female they are less likely to be abusive. There are relationships where both parties abuse each other.

Then of course within homosexual relationships there can also be abuse. Both males and females with neurological conditions like autism, mental disorders, mental illness ect have a higher risk of ending up in abusive relationships/situations than people without said conditions also.

Also people with such conditions in general have a harder time dating including women contrary to threads that seem to argue that 'all' women have it easier than 'all' men when it comes to dating.

P.S I don't really think girls have it so much worse...seems my sarcasm was lost on some, I put that title because I was making fun of all the generalizing that happens in this section lol.

Oh IDK, depends on the psychological abuse....but yes I think part of it is due to males typically being stronger/larger than females it would be easier for a male to abuse a female than a female to abuse a male in general of course not in all cases. But for instance I experienced a lot of bullying growing up most of it was verbal I had a couple physical incidents but yes I still have issues because of it...so the psychological stuff is very serious and can become very difficult to get out of as well. I do recall girls always being meaner bullies than boys..though typically it was more psychological stuff.

Again, if you say that women statistically have an higher risk of getting into an abusive relationship, that necessarily implies that men have an higher chance of being abusers. Doesn't it?

It just seems people forget females on the spectrum also have trouble reaching out to other people...I mean it almost feels like some guys here have spite towards females on the site, like its our fault they have trouble dating just because it so happens social norms for years have dictated its more normal for a guy to ask a girl out...so der since females aren't 'expected' to do the approaching a woman on the spectrum might have an easier time getting an initial date or having a guy come talk to them. That doesn't mean the guys going to be accepting once he finds out the woman is autistic or has any other conditions, he might lose interest and even insult her on top of it.

But then if a guy doesn't find a women initially attractive he is less likely to ask her out....and its seems for a woman to be deemed 'attractive' by the general populace they got to do a lot more work you know make up, doing something with their hair, getting prettied up a guy's just gotta run a comb through their hair, shave and maybe throw on some cologne and wear something clean. I also think part of the issue with many on the spectrum is not getting out much, I mean that is going to narrow down the pool of people you interact with.

Not the way you are thinking....it does NOT imply that if you put a male and female next to each other you could safely assume the male is more likely to be an abuser simply because he is male. It doesn't even mean there are more male abusers than female abusers really. All it is is females are more vulnerable to getting into an abusive relationship. Thing with statistics is you cannot infer any other points aside from the main one since they don't account for all the variables and such.

Not sure if there is a statistic on whether there are more male or female abusers but a specific statistic study would need to be done for that....it cannot just be assumed from the statistic of women being more vulnerable to abuse that there are more male than female abusers.

I feel quite similarly about people...boring and hard to understand, and most I hang out with would probably say the same. I mean its like I will be with a group of like my brother and some of our friends and we will make a point to 'get away from people' . I also don't care about those social norms like I don't think girls have to wear make up and dress 'pretty' to be attractive, I don't think guys have to have short hair, a clean shave and avoid wearing make up to be attractive. I think people should just dress how they want and decide for them-self if they like make up or not male or female. Seems society/media tries to dictate otherwise lol I don't really wear make up and typically just wear jeans and a t-shirts of bands I like, I have kind of a gender neutral style whilst my brother and a few guy friends like to wear make up and spend a lot longer on their looks than me. So to me deviation from social norm is kind of normal.

My worst favorite people are probably squares and yuppies(upper middle class people that grew up in the hippie generation and went super normal but still try to act all socially aware(whilst being some of the first people to look down their nose at someone worse off) and might sport some tie-die here and there and their spawn if you aren't familiar with the term) though much of the time if a person is one of those they are both.

You clearly have interpretation problems; I was stating a fact and criticizing what he is calling old good days.

An enforced marriage on a woman, which was common in the old days; means that she will have sex with someone she doesn't even fancy - that's enforced sex, aka rape.

And the laws back then didn't even consider these situations; as long the woman is formally married to the man, he could do anything (enforced) sexual to her without being punished for.

Did I say almost all women get raped?

Also sort of depends on the nature of the sex and dates...I mean if one has never dated how are they in any position to claim never having a date is worse than having a number of bad dates and sex that just makes you feel used? I mean I have been in the position of attempting a few relationships and being single...well from my perspective I prefer single to crappy(by god I've been used) relationships. So for another person to claim 'you know being single is worse than crappy relationships/dates.' when they have not been in a relationship of getting used just comes off as asinine, you don't know how much that hurts or that its 'lesser' than being alone and its not a pissing contest. Being single when you want a relationship sucks, getting a crappy relationship sucks, getting into a relationship you think is good later to find out you've just been used sucks. But none of those are necessarily harder or hardest...also it probably depends on the individual some people might find being single more painful than getting used.

So no getting sex and dates is better...is not logic its simplifying a much more complex issue whilst not considering any potential variables. And if I could go back in time to pre-birth and choose my sex I'd rather be male.

^this, is what I have been trying to get at....you've however worded it clearer I think.

Again, you didn't understand what I was saying.

Read my post again, and you will see that the six months or more(of her not making the relationship develops sexually) would lead to me thinking she doesn't like me and isn't attracted to me - that's an EMOTIONAL void.

I wouldn't date a very religious girl btw - but I was saying I understand that religious people have religious reasons to not have sex so it would be unfair to expect it from a religious girl if I ever was dating one.

But if she's doing an extreme policy like a six months of non-kiss then I would assume the same as if she's an atheist girl who is doing a non-sex policy.... again, the reason for that is purely emotional.

You quoted me so I am not sure if you are referring to me. I don't hate women on the spectrum at all, as I said I think they have an equal chance of getting a date as men on the spectrum. If there is someone on WP I am sometimes not nice to, that's the guys who can't get a date, not WP women.

And that can happen to a neurodiverse guy too.

Oh come on I am not gonna answer to that, I thought we were talking about serious problems here. If this is your problem consider yourself lucky.

Yes we agree!

Who says that? You see, men are expected to be less vulnerable just because they are men. That's stereotypical and not true.

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So? It can be difficult for some people to have a relationship without sex but it doesn't mean that they don't want the other things. Women want an emotional connection, men want an emotional connection. Men want sex, women want sex. So, I'm not seeing a lot of difference between the genders here.

I don't doubt it sucks being single when its not your choice to be single. But to assume you will forever be single and never, ever get a single opportunity just seems like a good way to create a self fulfilling prophecy...I mean if one convinces them-self of that I can see how they easily might than miss opportunities that do present themselves.

And I know that pressure females have of how to look is more dictated by society not even just males specifically...of course I know its not created by guys who have trouble getting relationships or haven't been in one per say. Though I think it is possible there are guys that haven't dated who if given the opportunity might be picky and just as shallow as a picky shallow guy who has dated. I just cannot assume any guy who hasn't dated is going to automatically be more open minded and not judge females on looks as much simply because they haven't dated.

Also though there are guys who find an unshaven female body disgusting....even if they may not care what the women they are cuddling with is wearing they might care about that. Of course I think with a lot of guys the sight of the naked chick over-rules that even if its something they think would turn them off. But yeah I have not had anyone shout out about how hot I am just was looking at a meme about that and it occurred I know that does happen to a lot of women. I guess it would depend on how they went about it if it happened....but I just find it creepy to use cutesy names with strangers like whilst driving by. If a guy whistled or something I don't really think that would bother me but if they call me 'baby' its like 'no I ain't your baby'. Almost glad I am not super attractive I would not know what to do with that...seems stressful, my sister was the one all the guys in gradeschool through highschool wanted to be with I was quite the opposite.