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18 Dec 2015, 12:34 pm
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
wilburforce wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is like saying all radical feminists are fat, hairy legged, lesbian, bitter manhaters. I mean... disproportionately... 
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
Blaming women for internalised sexism makes as much sense as blaming kidnapping victims for developing Stockholm Syndrome. When there is a vastly imbalanced power dynamic, you can't really blame those with less power trying to work with the system being imposed on them the best they can in an attempt to survive having less power.
No group has power, individuals have power, we don't have a big patriarchy club meeting to discuss this months oppression. As mentioned, women compete with each other much the same as men if not mire so following the same logic of this thread then would it be wrong to link the radical man-hating feminists to unsuccessful undesirable bitter women? Internalized sexism is a funny term, that's like a feminist version of calling someone a Uncle Tom and makes about as much sense. I believe women have played a great deal in shaping our society and culture, I guess that makes me a misogynist shitlord.
If you're not willing to see that being male has had advantages because our culture for a long time was set up to not recognise women as people who should have the same rights as men and that still effects how men and women interact with each other to this day, then there is no point in trying to have a conversation with you. If you're not willing to acknowledge reality there is no hope for decent dialogue. You're not interested in understanding women's lives--you're interested in scoring points. It's very tiresome as a woman to have to try to reason with people who refuse to be reasonable because I don't have a penis. And you're all closed-minded to women in the same way, so women end up having the same conversations over and over again with guys that go nowhere because the guy they are talking to really doesn't care to try to understand where you are coming from because you are female and they can't deal with their own bias. So tiresome...and this is why we often give and up and just don't bother trying anymore with you guys. We are wasting words on you because you don't want to listen, and many of us are just not going to bother anymore.
You do not ever have "dialogue" with anyone, you do this almost every time somebody disagrees with you. You are a very poor debater and resort mostly to ad hominem retorts with the occasional link to a blog post, you've literally posted probably a hundred different iterations of this post. I don't know if you have a penis or not(your profile says you're male) but it doesn't change how I interact with you. Would you prefer kid gloves? I am glad you speak for every woman, you like to do this a lot. Why is wrong to hold someone accountable for how they interact with another person? I see women as fully sentient individuals responsible for their own words and actions, I guess I didn't know they were less than that. Critical theory is Marxist pseudoscience, no I won't agree with your argument before you make it.
This is what happens when people embrace an ideology: They disregard their critical thinking skills and resort to rhetoric, ridicule(of their opponents), ad hominems and other logical fallacies!
Ideologies are like religions. People subscribe to them because they need something to believe in. Regardless of what this ideology is, leftwing or rightwing, their behavior is the same.
18 Dec 2015, 2:44 pm
18 Dec 2015, 2:59 pm
Jacoby wrote:
This is like saying all radical feminists are fat, hairy legged, lesbian, bitter manhaters. I mean... disproportionately...
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
No one's on a high horse. That's your perception of people.
18 Dec 2015, 5:09 pm
Varelse wrote:
AR1500 wrote:
This is what happens when people embrace an ideology: They disregard their critical thinking skills and resort to rhetoric, ridicule(of their opponents), ad hominems and other logical fallacies!
Ideologies are like religions. People subscribe to them because they need something to believe in. Regardless of what this ideology is, leftwing or rightwing, their behavior is the same.
Ideologies are like religions. People subscribe to them because they need something to believe in. Regardless of what this ideology is, leftwing or rightwing, their behavior is the same.
At the risk of making myself somewhat unpopular with you, I would suggest that it is much more difficult to spot this in oneself, than in someone else.
That's certainly true.
In the past when I was in my teens and early 20s I got suckered into these ideologies until I started to look at the world around me and realize all the inconsistencies and began to ask questions. That's how you spot it in yourself: By always questioning everything.
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18 Dec 2015, 5:16 pm
cavernio wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is like saying all radical feminists are fat, hairy legged, lesbian, bitter manhaters. I mean... disproportionately...
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
Women police themselves more than any man in every culture. Do you know in countries that practice female circumcision it is usually the FEMALE relatives that administer it? The biggest sexists are other women, ones that can be probably described as the most socially successful.
It's two sides of the same bitter coin gals, get off your high horse
No one's on a high horse. That's your perception of people.
Your perception is that I am talking directly to you or anyone in this thread or on this forum, it's a generalization just like the one this thread was started on. No one is on their high horse in the entire world? I don't believe that.
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