20% of men get 80% of women?

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16 Mar 2016, 12:28 pm

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But what about sexuality? Did a man and woman stayed "married" for good? Does all males have equal chances of mating? or is it based on some male performance in something?


I think one's ability to provide (food) as well as protect was probably a biggie.



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16 Mar 2016, 12:59 pm

This study suggests that the marriage system in hunter-gatherer society is limited polygynous: Better quality men can have more wives.

http://rsos.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 2/5/150054

Take that, alpha-deniers :p.



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16 Mar 2016, 1:09 pm





This thread reads like satire. Humans aren't elephant seals

I think it's safe to say that 95%+ of the human population today is pretty damn monogamous. There isn't an elite class of "top 20% males" that go around and a sire all of the worlds children :roll:, I'd know about it :P



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16 Mar 2016, 1:47 pm

The fall of conservative traditionalism has lead to a society that is uninhibited and liberal when it comes to sex. Sexually transmitted disease rates are soaring with apps as such as Tinder and Grindr, you only have to do a Google search to find evidence of this.

I have encountered women that have slept with many women in a year of using dating websites and women that were willing to cheat on their husbands with me without any knowledge of it.



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16 Mar 2016, 1:52 pm

Ergo 20% of the men get 80% of the STDs?



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16 Mar 2016, 1:59 pm

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Also some of you have mentioned levels of attractiveness, and even where you stand on the scale...Can someone please link me to this universal scale of attractiveness so I can determine whether me and my boyfriend are attractive or not. I think he's attractive and he thinks I am but according to this attractiveness scale people seem to go by that I can't wrap my head around maybe we're both super ugly.



Attractiveness has kind of a dual nature: It is subjective but there is some statistical objectivity to it. Bear in mind that you are only ONE PERSON and your preferences don't necessarily reflect statistical patterns(there are always outliers, you very well might be one of them).

But when it comes to women, I think I can say that for more than 50% of men, extreme body types are a turn-off. If you're exceedingly skinny or morbidly obese. What guys like is when your waist circumference is noticeably smaller than that of your hips. If your waist is much, much larger than your hips or your waist/hip ratio appears to be 1:1 that is unappealing to most men.


I am aware my preferences don't necessarily reflect statistical patterns, but it still does not make sense to say x amount of women have this preference so guys who don't fit x preference have no chance with women...so then men who lack said trait convince themselves they are to be forever alone because average women might not give them a chance. A lot of women aren't given a chance by average men, maybe they'll get the pleasure of a one night stand but that doesn't mean they are seen as 'relationship material'. Androgynous metalhead women such as myself aren't really attractive to most guys, I don't think. Basically if one is an outlier what 'average' people find attractive is somewhat irrelevent as you'd likely have a better chance with other outliers if that makes sense.


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16 Mar 2016, 2:15 pm

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There isn't an elite class of "top 20% males" that go around and a sire all of the worlds children :roll:, I'd know about it :P


Right. Me too. They might get a lot of sex, but since we have contraceptives, casual sex will create no children. So they are just wasting their semen. :mrgreen:



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16 Mar 2016, 2:25 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Which probably means that you find most men significantly unattractive.

Guess what? I don't think dating people while thinking of them as significantly less attractive that you would lead to a healthy and balanced relationship - I very highly doubt that.



Your guess as to what portion of men I find "significantly unattractive" is completely wrong.

I didn't just think of those men as being less physically attractive. They were. I dated much less physically attractive men. I dated them because I was attracted to their personalities, not their looks. It was commented to me a few times that other people thought of them as unattractive. Some people wondered why I was even dating them at all.

I find many men physically attractive. My standards aren't that high in that regard. But I have not usually dated men that most people think of as physically attractive.

The physically attractive men that I have dated have been either 1: not intelligent, or 2: arrogant womanizers. Or both.

I'm not going to date a man less intelligent than I am. It leads to all sorts of problems, as I have found out. And I'm not going to date an arrogant, dishonest, or unkind man. So that leaves a lot of men out right there.



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16 Mar 2016, 2:31 pm

TentofMot wrote:
Ergo 20% of the men get 80% of the STDs?



The self preservation and dignity is what we have lost when people become famous from a sex tape or pornography.

I believe marriage is a good institution and monogamy is a valuable idea to strive for but Boo is right, people are driven by emotion and desire when it comes to sex. It takes discipline and commitment to be truly devoted to monogamy, that's why divorce rates are so high and less people are marrying.



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16 Mar 2016, 3:15 pm

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Life is simpler if you are an Ameoba. When you feel the urge to procreate, you just divide in half. I wonder if it hurts?



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16 Mar 2016, 6:47 pm

I heard once before from a woman: "I doubt he will cheat, besides he is not that attractive".

That is an interesting idea, that being less attractive makes you less likely to cheat, or be successful at it. However they are going out with them. :?



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16 Mar 2016, 7:33 pm

^ I have heard people say (men and women) that they want a partner that is less attractive than themselves, so that they have more power in the relationship and their partner will be less likely to cheat. Makes sense.



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16 Mar 2016, 7:45 pm

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20-80 looks way too balanced to be true to me. I'd expect something more like 5-95.


Why are people pulling figures out of the air?

It is a poor hypothesis that does that. It is irrelevant what something 'seems like'.



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17 Mar 2016, 1:37 am

TentofMot wrote:
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Life is simpler if you are an Ameoba. When you feel the urge to procreate, you just divide in half. I wonder if it hurts?


The answer to your question is NO. Amoeba's have no nervous system and that is a prerequisite for feeling pain.



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17 Mar 2016, 1:55 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
20-80 looks way too balanced to be true to me. I'd expect something more like 5-95.


Why are people pulling figures out of the air?

It is a poor hypothesis that does that. It is irrelevant what something 'seems like'.



The figure is silly, the title should be more like "Smaller % of Men dating larger % of women?" - I am sure it is a Yes as an answer for this question.

Again, this is about sex, hookup, affairs and casual dating - everything outside marriage - it's not about marriage which enforces monogamy.



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17 Mar 2016, 1:57 am

0_equals_true wrote:
I heard once before from a woman: "I doubt he will cheat, besides he is not that attractive".

That is an interesting idea, that being less attractive makes you less likely to cheat, or be successful at it. However they are going out with them. :?


Hmm...Well I do know that I won't date a man more attractive than I am for that reason. I'd think he'd be able to find better looking women fairly easily, and so I'd have more to worry about. Not smart to date out of one's league, in my opinion.

Money and status are two things that will allow an unattractive man to find attractive women, so a man being physically unattractive with a beautiful wife may find it easy to cheat on her regardless.