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22 Jun 2016, 2:16 pm

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Yeah probably time to heal and move on.


How can you be sure?

You have a lot to write about her, but she has very little to say to you or about your interactions.
She flakes on you, for reasons likely to change.

I've been that guy. I know.


"she has very little to say to you"
Did you read the post? She wrote REALLY long posts, filled up the entire phone screen at several times.



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22 Jun 2016, 2:22 pm

^ Do not hope much for more.



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22 Jun 2016, 2:27 pm

Molin wrote:
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Molin wrote:
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Yeah probably time to heal and move on.


How can you be sure?

You have a lot to write about her, but she has very little to say to you or about your interactions.
She flakes on you, for reasons likely to change.

I've been that guy. I know.


"she has very little to say to you"
Did you read the post? She wrote REALLY long posts, filled up the entire phone screen at several times.


Scale comparison > you're filling up my laptop screen with monologues about her, she is filling up your phone screen with a few sentences in response to you. Maybe she does like talking to you, but if it's never progressed past talk and she's backed out of meeting up there's not much more to add to this.


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22 Jun 2016, 2:32 pm

Even if she writes back with long texts, nothing really counts online, it won't increase her bond with you.
She could have this talk in person with you, but she refused, and she didn't suggest another time.

Anyway, even if she starts to like you after these online conversations (I highly doubt it happens), the ball would be in her court, you asked her out once before.



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22 Jun 2016, 2:35 pm

Question: Did she ever text you first? Even once?



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22 Jun 2016, 2:41 pm

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Question: Did she ever text you first? Even once?


No, i initiated contact online, but does it count if i ended the conversation with a "there will always be another chance" and a few days later she came back with an apology and continued with the conversation and asking questions? And she was the one to re-suggest the date as just a walk. Maybe she legit is going through tough times and doesn't feel like meeting up and it charges down the line. If im in the friend zone now, can i get out of it?



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22 Jun 2016, 2:43 pm

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Question: Did she ever text you first? Even once?


No, i initiated contact online, but does it count if i ended the conversation with a "there will always be another chance" and a few days later she came back with an apology?


Her initiating text is 10000 times more significant than her long, poetic replies.

I am not kidding.

Long replies indicate nothing.



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22 Jun 2016, 2:45 pm

and "there will always be another chance" sounds very desperate - don't do that again.



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22 Jun 2016, 2:52 pm

Molin wrote:
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Question: Did she ever text you first? Even once?


Maybe she legit is going through tough times and doesn't feel like meeting up and it charges down the line. If im in the friend zone now, can i get out of it?


*Sigh* the youth....

Spectrum, shall we tell him the truth?



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22 Jun 2016, 2:53 pm

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and "there will always be another chance" sounds very desperate - don't do that again.


Okay, duly noted. Can i get out of the zone? Can i rectify it. We haven't had much contact outside the classes and facebook. And she seemed interested in person, chatty and initiated contact and convo.



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22 Jun 2016, 3:38 pm

Molin wrote:
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and "there will always be another chance" sounds very desperate - don't do that again.


Okay, duly noted. Can i get out of the zone? Can i rectify it. We haven't had much contact outside the classes and facebook. And she seemed interested in person, chatty and initiated contact and convo.


Listen, just keep in mind that it's not because of something sill you said, or some silly behavior you did...it's not because of that.
It's not like you got punished for something you did.

The real reason why she avoided the date is because she doesn't find you attractive in the first place, and that is usually constant, it won't change.
If she really liked you and found you attractive, then she would find time for you, even a little time.

So the truth is, she didn't "put you in the friend zone", she is simply not attracted to you.



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22 Jun 2016, 4:09 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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and "there will always be another chance" sounds very desperate - don't do that again.


Okay, duly noted. Can i get out of the zone? Can i rectify it. We haven't had much contact outside the classes and facebook. And she seemed interested in person, chatty and initiated contact and convo.


Listen, just keep in mind that it's not because of something sill you said, or some silly behavior you did...it's not because of that.
It's not like you got punished for something you did.

The real reason why she avoided the date is because she doesn't find you attractive in the first place, and that is usually constant, it won't change.
If she really liked you and found you attractive, then she would find time for you, even a little time.

So the truth is, she didn't "put you in the friend zone", she is simply not attracted to you.


Then why did she suggest a walk when i asked her out for a Movie. She seemed really interested until she sent the message that she's going through tough times. Did she change her mind. But i do think i Will keep contact and see what happens even if we don't become a couple, i do enjoy writing to her and she is responsive. Especially lately when the response times has become much tighter.



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22 Jun 2016, 4:23 pm

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Then why did she suggest a walk when i asked her out for a Movie.


The same reason I suggest a bar when my friends suggest a movie. I can't talk to them while the film is on or I just didn't fancy watching a movie.
And watching movies with a girl whose a friend unless you have an established friendship or there's some chemistry being is very very awkward, for both people!


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22 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

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Then why did she suggest a walk when i asked her out for a Movie.


The same reason I suggest a bar when my friends suggest a movie. I can't talk to them while the film is on or I just didn't fancy watching a movie.
And watching movies with a girl whose a friend unless you have an established friendship or there's some chemistry being is very very awkward, for both people!


Yes true but my point is that is she wasn't interested at all why would she re-suggest a walk, instead of not suggesting anything. She is the one that started this whole thing and i do think she was interested to some degree but either changed her mind and is not interested anymore or she doesn't feel like dating and is Okay with getting to know her online. She did aproove of a date early on.

BY the way, have you read this entire thread a nd the responses because im getting the vibe that you don't have the entire picture.



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22 Jun 2016, 4:43 pm

I've read most of the responses including the OP.

I cannot validate the answer you're looking for or provide you with confirmation bias. Needless to say, if you're asking for advice that is not an ideal thing to look for with it because it stops you taking advice that might be useful.

Maybe she was curious and changed her mind, maybe she is testing the waters first and going slow?
But to me it sounds like none of those things at the current stage you're at.

Look, while I can't offer much optimism in this case you could go and prove us wrong and take a leap of faith. Boo and myself might come across as a bit morbid but we have trodden this ground before and it might be better to hedge your bets in making more female acquaintances, preferably in an environment where you will get to hang out with the same girls more often than not, and seeing if anything comes from there.


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22 Jun 2016, 4:44 pm

This thread is being dragged since April.

Molin, if she was really into you, then this walk would have happened already...I mean how hard really to arrange a simple walk?


And all these delays in replying...couple of days every time is a sure sign that's she's not into you, a girl wouldn't wait that long to reply to a guy she fancies, nor it would take her that much time to notice the message from him (in case she receives tons). Plus she never texted you first, another sure sign of non-interest.

The time this got dragged should tell you something.