Serious issues with L&D Forum

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I agree. Opinions are just that....opinions.

They should be presented as such.

There should be qualifiers: "I believe....", or "It seems to me......" or "Based upon my observation....." inserted into opinions which could cause conflict.

Ultimately, I don't think it is possible to stop disparaging generalizations. The most practical response may be for users to 'police themselves', and avoid responding to such threads or gently remind the posters that their statement(s) might be offensive to folks. Perhaps a 'rotten tomato' button can be made available that will allow readers to rate posts anonymously? A certain amount of rotten tomatoes and the post is removed? The point being to encourage the poster to think about why folks are objecting, and anonymous in order to prevent retaliatory posts that may not be warranted.

If somebody says they don't want to talk to you, you have to stop talking to them. That's what I mean.

If somebody sees "let's agree to disagree," this means they don't want to argue any more. And that should be respected.

I actually believe that debate and discussions is conducive to the growth of all persons.

It looks like this thread is derailing a little.

I'm proud of you, Sly, for staying around, and discussing this with us.

This IS the topic.

We have to try to discuss and argue without abusing each other personally.

We have to have slightly more stringent standards than that found in PPR.

I'm proud of Sly because he stayed around, and offered his opinion, instead of just feeling sorry for himself.

We should probably make use of the sticky found in PPR pertaining to the Forum Rules. But make it slightly more stringent, like I said, than PPR.

As a general guideline for this forum and contentious issues generally, this principle adds value:

When what you are doing isn’t working, avoid doing more of it with greater intensity. 

I think we should have a lively ongoing debate--but I think we should respect each other as people.

If we are restricted from having that lively debate, we don't learn much.

We are people of intelligence. We have opinions. Sometimes, they don't agree with other opinions. That's part of life.

I hope there will be a focus on solutions in this thread - we are all very aware of what the problems are.

One solution, I believe, would be to place a sticky, similar to the one within PPR, within L & D.

The wording should be changed somewhat in order to make it somewhat more stringent than PPR, though not as restrictive as the Haven.

Somebody else offered another solution: If somebody wants to "rant," they should go to the "random" Subforum, and "rant" under either "rants" or "raves."