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Aristophanes
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28 May 2017, 4:57 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
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I assure you that it's all about the sex appeal.

Sex appeal is subjective, hence the reason someone can be attractive to one person and repulsive to another. That doesn't explain why she's had problems with virtually everyone.


It's not as subjective as you think.

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Most people often agree what's sexy and what's not - same for the sex appeal.
Some people are sexually attractive to the majority of the opposite sex while others aren't.

And there's strong cultural influence to it.

You are exaggerating the human uniqueness in all this.

Well you hit it on the head: cultural influence, which is not innate, it's a learned behavior, hence the reason so many variations across the world, and if you even cared to look probably in your own culture as well, since there are sub-cultures inside of cultures.



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03 Jun 2017, 12:51 am

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The dates don't really mean a whole lot if they don't lead to anything though. Most of the guys that I met lost interest once they met me and 1 stood me up. The 2 that stayed interested seemed desperate. I also have over 800 likes (not sure if it's really that many or not), but they don't really seem to mean much either. A lot of the ones that like me don't send messages. I tried initiating with a few and only one replied, but the conversation didn't last. A lot of them initiate and talk a little, but eventually stop. Then there were some that I didn't feel interested in or I wouldn't know what to say to them. Part of it might be that I sometimes take a while to reply or I lose track, but I think there's something missing in me that makes other women attractive for this to happen so much.

Also, I've never had a guy give me a gift on a first date. I did thank him and everything, but it doesn't feel quite right. How could he know if he would like me to even buy me a gift? It feels like something that I shouldn't get unless it's from someone who knows that they like me. It also makes me really uncomfortable when I feel like I'm being put up on a pedestal. Especially by someone who hardly even knows me.



800 :o
I barely have 30 and non reply to me and most might just be fake profiles

Flowers aren't really a gift . It part of getting you to like him by showing romance and appreciation of your time.
Did you not get valentines growing up in school? Also with online dating if your profile is filled out and you talk for while first most guys will already know if they like you before the date if they didn't they would go on the date.

How does it put you on. A Pedestal?



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03 Jun 2017, 12:54 am

Aristophanes wrote:
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Also, I've never had a guy give me a gift on a first date. I did thank him and everything, but it doesn't feel quite right. How could he know if he would like me to even buy me a gift? It feels like something that I shouldn't get unless it's from someone who knows that they like me. It also makes me really uncomfortable when I feel like I'm being put up on a pedestal. Especially by someone who hardly even knows me.


As I said earlier, tradition. Back before the 1960s flowers were practically mandatory: it showed the guy had true interest, and the type of flowers indicated his personality. It seems weird for you since you've never been socially trained for that to happen, but he probably came from a very traditional background and is probably something he does on all his dates. Sure, he needs to get with the times, but there's no reason to be creeped out by it, unless you're creeped out by traditional dudes in general. Also, in the current age I wouldn't be concerned about being put on a pedestal we're an increasingly grotesque culture that likes debased things, I'd be more concerned about someone playing you more than someone worshiping you.


From my research both online and asking people I know locally most women find getting flowers to still be highly romantic and show a man cares for them unlike other guys who just don't care and expect women to give their time. I truest hope we don't get to a stage will romance is considered outdated.



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03 Jun 2017, 12:38 pm

sly279 wrote:
800 :o
I barely have 30 and non reply to me and most might just be fake profiles

Flowers aren't really a gift . It part of getting you to like him by showing romance and appreciation of your time.
Did you not get valentines growing up in school? Also with online dating if your profile is filled out and you talk for while first most guys will already know if they like you before the date if they didn't they would go on the date.

How does it put you on. A Pedestal?


I would mostly get small pieces of candy or cards that were passed out to the whole class, unless it was from family members or something.

Maybe that wasn't the best word, but it doesn't feel right if someone would give me things when they don't even know whether they like me or not. I feel like they are giving the flowers to a made up version of me in their head instead of me because we didn't really talk that much.



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03 Jun 2017, 4:36 pm

Ok, then put in your profile that you don't like flowers or gifts on first dates.



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03 Jun 2017, 4:58 pm

I have maybe a different and negative perspective. Maybe its a tendency of mine to be skeptical and wonder about underlying intentions.
I do think its possible the OP's initial reaction was more muted than the guy was hoping he would get. Maybe this and her entire "in-person demeanor" made him realize that the she was not the type that would jump into a quick physical relationship. Maybe the glaring was because of that disappointment?



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03 Jun 2017, 5:04 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I assure you that it's all about the sex appeal.

Sex appeal is subjective, hence the reason someone can be attractive to one person and repulsive to another. That doesn't explain why she's had problems with virtually everyone.


It's not as subjective as you think.

:roll:


Most people often agree what's sexy and what's not - same for the sex appeal.
Some people are sexually attractive to the majority of the opposite sex while others aren't.

And there's strong cultural influence to it.

You are exaggerating the human uniqueness in all this.

Well you hit it on the head: cultural influence, which is not innate, it's a learned behavior, hence the reason so many variations across the world, and if you even cared to look probably in your own culture as well, since there are sub-cultures inside of cultures.


Actually, this is why I date Asians in my culture, so I did even care to look.

But hey, the cultural influence is even stronger than the the innate things, I will show you in another thread how hive-minded humans are when it comes to what's attractive and what's not.