Men's Looks Matter More Than Women Admit, Study Shows
The only time when women have ever shown disdain for me was when I gave out a "desperate" vibe in my early 20s.
Women don't mind it if I flirt with them a little.
Sometimes you younger guys on the forum should listen to those here who have more life experience.
Kraftie is making a good point. I see not stereotypically attractive men in relationships on a daily basis.
People vibe with those they can relate to. Mark zuceburg and bill gates are both married.
It's amazing what 10 billion in the bank account can do for someone's attractiveness.
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The only time when women have ever shown disdain for me was when I gave out a "desperate" vibe in my early 20s.
Women don't mind it if I flirt with them a little.
Sometimes you younger guys on the forum should listen to those here who have more life experience.
Kraftie is making a good point. I see not stereotypically attractive men in relationships on a daily basis.
People vibe with those they can relate to. Mark zuceburg and bill gates are both married.
It's amazing what 10 billion in the bank account can do for someone's attractiveness.
It also should be noted that Bill Gates and Mark Z. got married to smart types of women, not to supermodels.
Well there's not really a whole lot to discuss, facts are facts.
I think we all agree that looks, money and status are the three things women are most attracted too. Which of the three is most important is where we disagree.
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Melinda Ann does not sound like a gold digger, it was Bill who asked her out, and they dated for six years before getting married. Also it was Melinda who founded the donation foundation ; a gold digger isn't likely to be that much philanthropist.
Priscilla Chan sounds similar too, she became Mark's gf back in college BEFORE he gets wealthy; and it seems it's her who inspired him to donate most of their wealth.
Both women look normal.
So....no, with their money they could get any golddiger supermodels but those two picked their wives well instead.
The only time when women have ever shown disdain for me was when I gave out a "desperate" vibe in my early 20s.
Women don't mind it if I flirt with them a little.
Sometimes you younger guys on the forum should listen to those here who have more life experience.
Kraftie is making a good point. I see not stereotypically attractive men in relationships on a daily basis.
People vibe with those they can relate to. Mark zuceburg and bill gates are both married.
Any advice on figuring out who your actually compatible with and the right type of person for you would be best?
I agree, birds of a feather flock together, when they actually have the chance to meet each other.
People who are compatible are really good at coincidentally meeting 'their kind'.
Dunno what type of person I am, what girls to go for, where they would be, what things about myself I'd have to change (but still being true to myself) to be more attractive to them.
Well there's not really a whole lot to discuss, facts are facts.
I think we all agree that looks, money and status are the three things women are most attracted too. Which of the three is most important is where we disagree.
Man, if that's what you really believe I wish you all the luck in the world on getting into a long term loving relationship. You're gonna need it.
Well there's not really a whole lot to discuss, facts are facts.
I think we all agree that looks, money and status are the three things women are most attracted too. Which of the three is most important is where we disagree.
Man, if that's what you really believe I wish you all the luck in the world on getting into a long term loving relationship. You're gonna need it.
Thanks, but I don't actually need it. I have more relationship experience than most guys my age.
Well there's not really a whole lot to discuss, facts are facts.
I think we all agree that looks, money and status are the three things women are most attracted too. Which of the three is most important is where we disagree.
Man, if that's what you really believe I wish you all the luck in the world on getting into a long term loving relationship. You're gonna need it.
Thanks, but I don't actually need it. I have more relationship experience than most guys my age.
That's a bold statement, mist NT guys also have quite a few relationships under their belt by your age.
Whats your issue with relationships anyway?
I agree with you about the looksabd status thing and also agree relationships are a business transaction but why's it a problem?
LIFE is a business transaction - you get out what you put in, you give a little and get a little.
Our friendships and family relations aren't unconditional either.
But you're oversimplifying it. Men and Women look for value above all else, a person needs to offer value in some way and this can be subjective what is valuable and what isnt, and ho valauble x vs y is, but most people have the same general opinion on whats valuable and attractive.
But many women date hypergamously so a man doesn't have to be good looking, rich and successful, but only relatively better than his competition, e.g. an upper middle class young guy with nice car and clothes, job, studying etc. The whole plain white teeth etc. He's perfectly average by his private school peers standards but he is super attractive and successful to redneck women whos usual options are unhygienic, rough mannered, alcoholic trailer park boys, etc.
Well there's not really a whole lot to discuss, facts are facts.
I think we all agree that looks, money and status are the three things women are most attracted too. Which of the three is most important is where we disagree.
Man, if that's what you really believe I wish you all the luck in the world on getting into a long term loving relationship. You're gonna need it.
Thanks, but I don't actually need it. I have more relationship experience than most guys my age.
That's a bold statement, mist NT guys also have quite a few relationships under their belt by your age.
Whats your issue with relationships anyway?
I agree with you about the looksabd status thing and also agree relationships are a business transaction but why's it a problem?
LIFE is a business transaction - you get out what you put in, you give a little and get a little.
Our friendships and family relations aren't unconditional either.
But you're oversimplifying it. Men and Women look for value above all else, a person needs to offer value in some way and this can be subjective what is valuable and what isnt, and ho valauble x vs y is, but most people have the same general opinion on whats valuable and attractive.
But many women date hypergamously so a man doesn't have to be good looking, rich and successful, but only relatively better than his competition, e.g. an upper middle class young guy with nice car and clothes, job, studying etc. The whole plain white teeth etc. He's perfectly average by his private school peers standards but he is super attractive and successful to redneck women whos usual options are unhygienic, rough mannered, alcoholic trailer park boys, etc.
It was simpy a response to an incredibly condescending post, it's not something to brag about, but I was in relationships for most of my teens up until my early twenties, while most of my nt friends were not.
I don't have an issue with relationships per se, what I tend to have an issue with, is the amount of dishonesty and fiction people dish out when discussing them. There's a mountain of useless advice for the young and naive men on this forum.
It's a good point, life is in many ways a business transaction, but relationships really is the highest expression of that, and that's why I don't find them very compelling anymore. My family relations and close friendships are "closer" to being unconditional than relationships will ever be. Friends and family don't "dump" me because I earn less or have less social status than them, that's the thing about hypergamy, it only goes upwards.
Sorry if I sounded aggressive at all, I didn't intend to, Even if you dont believe I did.
I agree with you strongly.
Family and friends are more loyal, and while no love is conditional, your family certainly expect much less of you.
MosT peoples families go to great lengths to help each other unless the individual his a significant burden that drains recourses and doesn't contribute any sort of value back. I pay bills and help out with anything asked of me as well as buy my own food so in not a burden on my parents.
I have always strongly believed most women have vastly higher adore unrealistic standards than the average man.
While men mostly care about physical appearance and personality, its generally wown who care about both of those things along with wanting a man with good financial success and social status.
Now before anyone disagrees with me, keep in mins I'm not talking about LOVE, but DATING.
When two people are in love, they work very hard to stay and make things work.
But when people are dating, they are very selective, superficial and demanding, and I strongly believe most aspie men (and women) are screwed in this department.
Many aspie people cant work, drive, still live with thei parents, etc. And just one of these things is a dealbreaker to most people over 25, let alone three.
Most of us need to avoid dating altogether.
We must fall in love.
We must meet someone and get to know them and have a natural connection and mutual attraction, it could be a friend for years and yoy both dall in love or someone you met a week ago ans you both fall for each ither and develop a crush, whatever.
The point a someone needs to have a crush/love you, dating isn't love.
Dating is getting to know strangers on the regular until you get lucky enough to meet one so physically attracted to you ad enjoys spending time with you they agree to multiple dates until you can ggo steady.
Much of the advice here is 'bluepilled' rubbish.
Its just ebturelt ignorant and sugarcoasted to the harsh NT dating reality.
I don't know a better way to describe it, so I can only provide some examples if what in talking about:
1. Women are generally only attracted to fitness when its visually noticeable, a man must specifically acquire aesthetics. Just eating healthy and exercising isn't enough usually. I eat healthy and exercise but at the moment am a completely average 20% body fat skinny fat, despite slightly higher than average fitness in some areas, there are some skinny guys with good genetics who have always naturally had 6 pack abs who look better but never workout and eat like trash.
You don't have to look likwa bodybuilder but either big and strong or lean and defined skinny with 6pack.
I agree with you strongly.
Family and friends are more loyal, and while no love is conditional, your family certainly expect much less of you.
MosT peoples families go to great lengths to help each other unless the individual his a significant burden that drains recourses and doesn't contribute any sort of value back. I pay bills and help out with anything asked of me as well as buy my own food so in not a burden on my parents.
I have always strongly believed most women have vastly higher adore unrealistic standards than the average man.
While men mostly care about physical appearance and personality, its generally wown who care about both of those things along with wanting a man with good financial success and social status.
Now before anyone disagrees with me, keep in mins I'm not talking about LOVE, but DATING.
When two people are in love, they work very hard to stay and make things work.
But when people are dating, they are very selective, superficial and demanding, and I strongly believe most aspie men (and women) are screwed in this department.
Many aspie people cant work, drive, still live with thei parents, etc. And just one of these things is a dealbreaker to most people over 25, let alone three.
Most of us need to avoid dating altogether.
We must fall in love.
We must meet someone and get to know them and have a natural connection and mutual attraction, it could be a friend for years and yoy both dall in love or someone you met a week ago ans you both fall for each ither and develop a crush, whatever.
The point a someone needs to have a crush/love you, dating isn't love.
Dating is getting to know strangers on the regular until you get lucky enough to meet one so physically attracted to you ad enjoys spending time with you they agree to multiple dates until you can ggo steady.
Much of the advice here is 'bluepilled' rubbish.
Its just ebturelt ignorant and sugarcoasted to the harsh NT dating reality.
I don't know a better way to describe it, so I can only provide some examples if what in talking about:
1. Women are generally only attracted to fitness when its visually noticeable, a man must specifically acquire aesthetics. Just eating healthy and exercising isn't enough usually. I eat healthy and exercise but at the moment am a completely average 20% body fat skinny fat, despite slightly higher than average fitness in some areas, there are some skinny guys with good genetics who have always naturally had 6 pack abs who look better but never workout and eat like trash.
You don't have to look likwa bodybuilder but either big and strong or lean and defined skinny with 6pack.
No worries, I think we largely agree on these things, It's just the nature of text based communication, it's easier to misinterpret eachother, and especially misinterpret intention.
I know I am often a tad cynical on this forum, but I just want people to be in touch with reality, because I know first hand how much it will/can bite you in the ass, having a fairytale like mentality when it comes to dating. I used to be the kind of guy who would write poetry and love songs . In the end it did not service me at all, and actually lead to alot of pain. And I see this all the time, so many guys end up hurting themselves, because they refuse to believe that women are indeed humans, and not angels.
I don't know, 20% body fat is probably better than average in this day and age, depending on where you live.
I envy those guys who can stay at 10% all their lives, with visible abs without doing anything. My genetics are not very good, even when I'm at 8% my abs don't look all that great.... It is true that abs can be made in the kitchen, but great abs are made in the womb.
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