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15 Aug 2017, 5:52 am

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We are not socially independent and single as the result of some feminist ideology. We are socially independent and single because we have autism spectrum disorders and lack the social programming that those on the spectrum were born with.

I should think that should have been apparent from the subject matter of the website.


You make it sound so simple, but I don't think it is that simple. People actually are not single because of communication difficulties, repetitive interests or social programming, as those traits are relatively independent of relationship traits.


Well there are many factors. I don't think we can pinpoint 2 or 3 and say ah ha that's the cause.

It depends on luck a lot of the time. The odds of meeting someone you fancy and get along with who feels the same.

That's actually quite difficult if you are atypical.


For better or worse, I do think being an aspie makes us compatible with a much smaller percentage of the population.



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15 Aug 2017, 6:17 am

Closet Genious wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
rdos wrote:
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We are not socially independent and single as the result of some feminist ideology. We are socially independent and single because we have autism spectrum disorders and lack the social programming that those on the spectrum were born with.

I should think that should have been apparent from the subject matter of the website.


You make it sound so simple, but I don't think it is that simple. People actually are not single because of communication difficulties, repetitive interests or social programming, as those traits are relatively independent of relationship traits.


Well there are many factors. I don't think we can pinpoint 2 or 3 and say ah ha that's the cause.

It depends on luck a lot of the time. The odds of meeting someone you fancy and get along with who feels the same.

That's actually quite difficult if you are atypical.


For better or worse, I do think being an aspie makes us compatible with a much smaller percentage of the population.


It depends. After all, 10-15% of the population being ND means there are still many millions of NDs. So I don't think it comes down to numbers. It's more about how you identify them (or not), how much you have bought into NT concepts that typically won't work for you (mostly dating) and things like that.

In my experience and being just an odd-ball before the big rise in diagnosis, getting no education about how sex and relationships were expected to work, I think I worked it out pretty well on my own and found two or three ND girls while still in school. While many other pupils that knew about it regarded it as kind of crazy, the girls enjoyed it.

Given that today's diagnosed population received a lot of (often misguided) sex and relationship education, it seems many of them are not as lucky. Which puts doubt on whether this actually is beneficial or not.



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15 Aug 2017, 10:20 am

I think too many people are just afraid to be alone I guess. For me it doesn't matter one way or another because I pretty much know I'll probably be alone for the rest of my life. I got anime and games though, so I'm pretty content :P



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15 Aug 2017, 2:41 pm

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I think too many people are just afraid to be alone I guess. For me it doesn't matter one way or another because I pretty much know I'll probably be alone for the rest of my life. I got anime and games though, so I'm pretty content :P


How dare you try to be content without a man! You've obviously been corrupted by feminism.



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15 Aug 2017, 2:45 pm

So hurtloam, you're anti-feminism for wanting a boyfriend and expressing how lonely you're feeling.

Traitor...



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15 Aug 2017, 2:52 pm

For those ignorant of what feminism is, it's about women having choices--choices to be alone, or be with men, or with other women, or whoever they want, to have children or not, to get married or not, etc. Women can desire to be in a relationship or they can desire to live on their own, because they have those choices now that they didn't have before. Feminism and the struggle for women's rights gave them those life choices.



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15 Aug 2017, 2:54 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So hurtloam, you're anti-feminism for wanting a boyfriend and expressing how lonely you're feeling.

Traitor...


Pfttt. Like I don't already know that.

In all seriousness though, even Jessica Valenti is married.

Feminists and MRAs both have adherants that don't hate the other gender and then there's those who oppose relationships. Most of us live somewhere in the middle.



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15 Aug 2017, 2:58 pm

For some of the trolls here: hence why whether wanting or not wanting a man doesn't define one's level of feminism.
It's totally normal not to be content for not having a relationship while still being feminist.



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15 Aug 2017, 3:05 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
For some of the trolls here: hence why whether wanting or not wanting a man doesn't define one's level of feminism.
It's totally normal not to be content for not having a relationship while still being feminist.


And conversely one can be a normal feminist in a relationship.

Ok, so we are all on the same board.

There's really no answer to this thread. I think we all, male and female go through phases of feeling lonely and phases of being ok on our own. That's just human nature.

Sometimes it really get me down, other times I'm really glad that I've gained this life experience on my own. I don't think I would have travelled around so much if I had been tied to relationships. I've met loads of interesting people on the way to where I am now and I've had a lot of different jobs, some good, some bad, but it's given me experience. I've been free to move on and try something different when I've felt like it. It's not all bad to be on your own.

Still sometimes when it's quiet at night I wonder if I'll ever find someone and I wonder what that would be like.



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15 Aug 2017, 4:05 pm

hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
For some of the trolls here: hence why whether wanting or not wanting a man doesn't define one's level of feminism.
It's totally normal not to be content for not having a relationship while still being feminist.


And conversely one can be a normal feminist in a relationship.

Ok, so we are all on the same board.

There's really no answer to this thread. I think we all, male and female go through phases of feeling lonely and phases of being ok on our own. That's just human nature.

Sometimes it really get me down, other times I'm really glad that I've gained this life experience on my own. I don't think I would have travelled around so much if I had been tied to relationships. I've met loads of interesting people on the way to where I am now and I've had a lot of different jobs, some good, some bad, but it's given me experience. I've been free to move on and try something different when I've felt like it. It's not all bad to be on your own.

Still sometimes when it's quiet at night I wonder if I'll ever find someone and I wonder what that would be like.

I like this post.



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15 Aug 2017, 6:37 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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I think too many people are just afraid to be alone I guess. For me it doesn't matter one way or another because I pretty much know I'll probably be alone for the rest of my life. I got anime and games though, so I'm pretty content :P


How dare you try to be content without a man! You've obviously been corrupted by feminism.


Strawman...



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15 Aug 2017, 6:49 pm

I like hurtloam's post also.
And, definite Strawman :P


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15 Aug 2017, 7:18 pm

You guys are all in a hurry to generalize about women and argue them off the forum, and then you wonder why you have trouble getting women to want to be around you. The lack of self awareness is truly stunning sometimes.

You push us away, constantly. That is why we don't go on dates with you. The latent hostility boiling just below the surface pushes women away.



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15 Aug 2017, 7:23 pm

karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
The latent hostility boiling just below the surface pushes women away.

Oh my God, she's still here... :x
Keep pushing, men!! !! Push with all your might!


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15 Aug 2017, 7:30 pm

TheSpectrum wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
The latent hostility boiling just below the surface pushes women away.

Oh my God, she's still here... :x
Keep pushing, men!! ! ! Push with all your might!


This is exactly what I'm talking about. You think you're being funny and scoring points, but when you act like this in life all it serves to do is push people away. Life is not a video game where scoring points on people is a good way to get by. In real life if you are hostile to people it pushes them away.



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15 Aug 2017, 7:38 pm

In this one instance, I can comfortably live with that. :lol:
Someone who refuses to take a joke in the name of scoring points of their own is not normally worth my time. But I should at least honour you with -one- dignified response:

There are guys and girls in this section alike who make very good points and offer very helpful advice. One of their positive traits is their ability to look at things from a gender-neutral standpoint.

It is when the people focus on gender like the OP and you have done, tensions rise.
You and the OP are not dissimilar. You have gripes with behaviour you've observed in the opposite gender yet give a free pass to your gender. It's identity politics 101 for the tumblr brigade. I don't think it's very helpful if I'm honest. It only serves to self congratulate.


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