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The_Face_of_Boo
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22 Oct 2017, 4:58 pm

War(Reboot).



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22 Oct 2017, 5:33 pm

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
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...You clearly don't get it OP...

You are failing to see the bigger picture. Once you stop isolating your issues to the bible belt, and start understanding how love and attraction works, you wouldn't need to ask questions like this one.
I would never ask a question like this one. Because the 3 times I've had girlfriend was a result of understanding how to build attraction(aka redpill™)


What's with the wish-washiness from you?

I was never told to see the big picture. In fact, no one ever used those words to me. All I was told was "God has a plan for you!" and I was expected to believe in that. They basically told me that God had everything planned out and I was heading that direction whether I felt like it or not.


God also wants you to have free will as well and come to him through that. So, again, not really sure where you are going with this. You are trying to make your side the only views that matter. For example saying God controls my life totally and dictates what I do and don't and how far I make it is a strange view to have. Because if you are supposed to have free will this cannot be the case.

HOWEVER You can say God has placed resources in the world that I live in and if I choose to use my free will to take advantage of that in order to further myself as well as put myself in a position to further serve him and spread his love and compassion to others thus bringing them closer to him.......well that sounds like a free will based answer.

You need to get out of your own head and start doubting what you believe, open your mind up to OTHER possibilities and that is how you not only REINFORCE what you believe, or strive to make it a better version of what it currently is.

Or don't I mean what do I care. OOH AND AS far as the I know people who would kill trans people? Ok. I know redpill men who wouldn't and say it's your choice to live your live. It doesn't make you a redpill man to kill a transperson AT ALL. It makes you so insecure in your own sexuality and who you are that you clearly havn't payed enough attention to the redpill to only focus on you, so you care so much how others view you that you feel threatened by someone who is trans and must "slit their throat."


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You have the worst reading comprehension known to humanity. It's not my belief that God is controlling my life. The Bible Belt shoved that idea down my throat. I oppose the idea that God controls me and is working me towards a "plan" that nearly the entire Bible Belt goes on and on about. It played a role in destroying my happiness and made me depressed. Why do you think I hate the Bible Belt culture so much? How could you miss that I don't have any faith in God?

Get a membership on love-shy.com and view the forums. They praise the redpill mentality like bro gamers praise the latest CoD game and your paradigm will get shattered. Ones like Oldboy would call you a humanoid cockroach (His term for black people) who is confused (How he views transpeople) and should've been aborted. You are not thinking very thoroughly about the people who you are cheerleading for.

Where did I ever say I hated transpeople, felt threatened by them, and wanted to kill them? Again, more terrible reading comprehension. I was saying that about the people you are cheerleading for. Stop the stupidity and get a clue already.

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What if the God's plan to keep you single? :| :|


I don't worship God anymore.



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22 Oct 2017, 5:55 pm

In answer to your question about the damage being reversed - I believe it can.

It will take time and energy but it can happen if you are receptive to it.

You may need the right therapist for this though or a very non-judgemental compassionate friend who listens well.



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22 Oct 2017, 5:59 pm

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You don't live in a f****d up culture, you live in a f****d up world, because news flash it's not just the bible belt that has these beliefs and it's unfortunate that men who suffer from AS struggle with these concepts.

[slow clap]

I’ve managed to make a modest life for myself in the Bible Belt. The trouble with that mentality is while Marknis makes some good points on Southern culture, there really is a lot of diversity here. It’s no paradise on earth, it does tend to be Christian friendly, but it’s no black abyss, either. I have and have had students in my clasroom into anime, filmmaking/animation, obscure musical micro genres like vaporwave, mixed media art, Broadway theater, and, of course, the full spectrum of the commercial mainstream. It’s not all 4-wheelers and pickup trucks. And that’s here in the Mississippi Delta where a large part of the population is destitute or barely above it.

If you can’t get out, I get it. You’re stuck. If I had my way, I’d be working in Nashville long before now. We get stuck in life. When that happens, you have to go with what’s available. If you hate being stuck and you hate the Bible Belt, I sincerely doubt you are alone. SOMEONE around you feels the same way, I promise.

The Delta has kept me alive, but it’s been cruel at times. I’m in the worst career slump I’ve had to this point, I’m facing some work pressures, and I have church people trying to have conversations with me that make me uncomfortable. Time to form an exit strategy. I can work things out nicely in two years and be done if that’s what end up being best.

Thing is, I’m just facing facts here. It is what it is. I can accept it, adapt, work with it, grow, and make progress, or I can simply cut my losses. Neither is “right” nor “wrong.” And if I complain about it, in the end it’s my responsibility which path I take. So I choose not to complain because complaining doesn’t make it any better.

And it won’t make your situation any better, either. Move or make the most of what you have. If you want advice, there’s no shortage here. Reject mine or not, reject some else’s or not—doesn’t matter because most of what I’ve seen others give you is not bad. Please understand we want to help. However, it’s off putting when you casually dismiss or even become combative like that. Posting in the Haven might do you more good because giving advice the way we do isn’t allowed. If you aren’t really looking for advice, don’t ask for it. If you ARE, then sift out what you think is good, try out some things that look marginal, and just keep at it. Sooner or later SOMETHING will work.

I’ve laid out my “dating for n00bz” blueprint many a time. I don’t feel like doing it again. The only advice I have left is DO SOMETHING.



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22 Oct 2017, 6:03 pm

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
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30 is your prime tho. I mean if I were going to kill myself it'd probably be like 60? If I were even going to? I'd like to think I'm making it uncomfortable for the ones who make life hard for me. That my burden is silently afflicting these neurotypicals that have no care in the world for me. I don't know. Should I blame the world? If it keeps telling me I'm defective I'm bound to troll that.

But that's a cynical approach and highly inappropriate. How dare you sir??

I should just point out - were in the same boat. Your not making this any easier for me by quitting out earlier. Let's both try to get a date and at least if you get one before me - I can be sure there's some possibility. That I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.


Why is 30 a person’s prime? Seems a bit naive. Some people might not hit their prime until their mid 40s. I’m 32 and haven’t hit mine, though plenty of idiots have told me that it’s all over for me, I don’t believe them for a second.

Also, although it’s easy to fantasize how regretful and sad people will be if you kill yourself, the reality is, they won’t care. They might say “That’s a shame” then 5 minutes later they forget about it and get on with their lives. (Exception being family).

People really need to get past this “gotta make it by 30 or my life is over” mentality, it’s naive, stupid and untrue.



I completely agree, Hale_bopp, and I consider myself to be in my prime too - I am 48 next year.

I started a new career recently spending most of my early forties studying knowing I would be nearing the other end before I was qualified.

I had a 12/13 year break from boyfriends and decided last year I would get one through online dating and it worked until I found we were not so compatible and I had lost most my energy. I will probably think about love and dating again next year but for now I am concentrating on getting my mojo back and resting from all those things which have accumulated to bring me apathy and exhaustion. My next move is to do nothing but enjoyable pastimes.

My friend found love at 54(online) and the couple up the road in their 60's(local club).

Blimey when I was about 30 I was only just beginning to figure out what I wanted and what the world was all about for me. I have always loved life and it is probably easier for me to say.

So my question is the same as before - where will you find love Marknis? There is someone out there for you. You have already had a relationship regardless of whether it worked out or not - nothing is guaranteed in this world.

This is where you may need to get creative - and if you don't have this kind of thinking then use us - we are here.


Contrary to what some posters are saying, I have taken advice from others. It just never goes the way I hope it will go. A poster I was on very good terms with (Alliekit, who sadly doesn't post here anymore) suggested I call a dating agency but I was denied their services because I don't work full time. To answer your question, I don't know how to find love. I've read there are bird species that if they don't hear the mating songs of their kind during their developmental years that they will never learn the songs and never be able to find a mate. No one ever really taught me the social skills for finding love, they either said "God has a plan for you!" or "You don't need a girlfriend!" and both of those things were harmful.

I feel like I was meant to be creative but my family and the culture around me ruined that by constantly telling me I was wrong.

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^See???

Some people don’t hit their prime until they’re 50, or 60. May I go out on a limb and say you may not hit your prime until the day you die?

What are your values? What makes a person their best?

I would say true happiness, wisdom, self acceptance and acceptance of others. Learning and practicing kindness, self success, health and wellness, self achievement.

People stuck on it being about looks and who you’ve dated or whether you’ve bred..... Like you’re some fruit that starts to go rotten at 30. That’s really sad. Please for your own sake grow up. I won’t be rotting till I’m 6 feet under.


Please hear me out. In the culture I live in, if you aren't out of your parents house by 18-21 and don't have a regular love partner, you are considered a loser by the general population. They'll think you are either stupid at best or a serial killer in waiting at worst.

I've read stories by both male aspies and NTs who struggled with the dating world and they mentioned being stereotyped as "weird" for being in their late 20's and still haven't dated or their dates cut things off when they found out. One poster on here a long time ago even told me I should wait until I am 30 to commit suicide and on another forum, someone who suffered from love-shyness mentioned his plan to commit suicide at 30.

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
Can we at least agree this should be his last thread on this subject? If he is unwilling to take any advice due to wanting to preserve his individuality and realizes that will cause him to be alone in the current state of the world probably, can we AT LEAST prevent him from making more threads of this nature. I've seen so many by this guy in my short time here its insane.

I hate putting people in that box but w.e. Some people can play league of legends for years and stay bronze aka the bottom 60% for years and some people can play and reach the top 1% in a year. Guess OP is just bronze at life, unwilling to change, grow adapt and has a robot mentality.


:roll: And yet you keep following my threads. Chichikov does the same despite claiming to hate what my threads are about.

Bronze at life? Who the f**k are you to decide that about me? I just live in a f****d up culture that is based around herd conformity and is brainwashed by mainstream Christianity. Robot mentality? That's stupid. I do not model myself off of anyone.


Lol. You are bronze because you refuse to look within yourself and see the problem might be you compared to everyone else. You can't accept that women have certain desires in a partner that you don't meet naturally, and don't strive to in bettering yourself reach those standards. You don't live in a f****d up culture, you live in a f****d up world, because news flash it's not just the bible belt that has these beliefs and it's unfortunate that men who suffer from AS struggle with these concepts. And yes you have a robot mentality and the main reason I say that is you have a desire not to conform, not to be like everyone else, and to hold what you think is being true to you, but in doing so you reject the possibility that you yourself could be wrong.

But hey leme put this in simple terms to explain why your a robot in a sense. Famous quote bear with me.
René Descartes - I think, therefore I am.

AKA If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.”

And in refrence to you, your the robot because you refuse to doubt your own beliefs about the world and open your eyes up to meeting some possible middle ground between what you believe and what clearly mainstream women and other people are taking to be reality. That is why you fail, and that is why you will continue to fail because you are bronze/a robot/a person who cannot doubt his own beliefs but instead rejects EVERYTHING else presented to you.

No one said you had to totally conform, no one said you had to become this ALPHA slays p**** guy, no one said you had to abuse women or be a jerk, but learning how women's brains work to a degree, learning how to keep them in the mood, learning how to work on your own self before seeking anything, and how to be happy with yourself THAT would be a good step towards a middle ground. But no........

Your "TOTALLY" not a robot.

ggwp?


Thanks for the update Morpheis.



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22 Oct 2017, 6:07 pm

And the preaching goes on and on and on. And then on and on again. I think I will have a little sleep.



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22 Oct 2017, 6:10 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
...You clearly don't get it OP...

You are failing to see the bigger picture. Once you stop isolating your issues to the bible belt, and start understanding how love and attraction works, you wouldn't need to ask questions like this one.
I would never ask a question like this one. Because the 3 times I've had girlfriend was a result of understanding how to build attraction(aka redpill™)

I’m not really up for redpill. Not that familiar with it, and really kinda past the point in my life that matters. But I like this: “Once you stop isolating your issues to the bible belt”.

You could come full stop there and it would work. It’s a bigger problem than just where you live. Try packing up and moving to Toronto and see just how much better it gets. You’d get better diversity, bigger population means more likely to find someone like yourself, it’s Canada, so not even the same culture exactly... But I guarantee if you have trouble meeting girls and forming lasting relationships where you are, you’ll end up no better even if you leave the country.



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22 Oct 2017, 6:18 pm

Marknis wrote:
Please hear me out. In the culture I live in, if you aren't out of your parents house by 18-21 and don't have a regular love partner, you are considered a loser by the general population. They'll think you are either stupid at best or a serial killer in waiting at worst.

I've read stories by both male aspies and NTs who struggled with the dating world and they mentioned being stereotyped as "weird" for being in their late 20's and still haven't dated or their dates cut things off when they found out. One poster on here a long time ago even told me I should wait until I am 30 to commit suicide and on another forum, someone who suffered from love-shyness mentioned his plan to commit suicide at 30.


I understand. The culture is the same here. Maybe a good goal for you before finding someone is focusing on your independence for your self confidence. It's probably a bit different there, as houses are so expensive, people have started living with their parents in their 30s.

Do you enjoy your part time work? I can also PM you some websites if you are fluent in English that you can earn extra money from. Perhaps it will help you in your goal of independence. Are you open with living with others for a short period of time?

You can lie about whether you've dated. If it's about virginity, you might benefit from seeing a sex worker once. If it's about dating, just say to people you've dated before. Trust me, looking at the completely clueless guys I know with dating experience, no-one will dispute it.

Who ever told you the suicide advice is someone whose advice you should CHOOSE to ignore. They are stupid and naive. You don't need them in your life.



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22 Oct 2017, 6:51 pm

Marknis wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
What if the God's plan to keep you single? :| :|


I don't worship God anymore.


Face of boo is just being cheeky.



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22 Oct 2017, 7:47 pm

"Crawling in my skin, these wounds they will not healllllllllahhhhhhhhhhhh!! !! !! !!"

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That's what I think of the white noise.


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22 Oct 2017, 9:40 pm

Rather than explain how the many points of your post showed you didn't read mine in fact in thinking I was speaking about you in certain parts I'll just post this.


This site has long strayed from it's intended purpose. A good number of posters here aren't even really "love-shy" but rather identify as something called "incel". This has become a derogatory term on much of the web because as you've pointed out, these people tend to blame women for their problems rather than try to improve themselves. They are mostly a lost cause and it's best to just ignore them, at least until they decide that they want to try and help themselves. Amidst the noise there are a few decent people here but with all the general unpleasantness of this place only a select few stick around long term. There have been some positives to this forum over the years but generally speaking it's a good example of "this is why we can't have nice things". Regardless this particular subforum isn't meant for this kind of discussion so I will lock this thread, but feel free to bring up the issue in the forums for registered members

And that's an administrator from the shy forums. Why would you even bother going to a cesspool like that. Whelp, we have reached the point where it's the end.



you are challenged in some way that is causing you to reject everything despite asking for help. Or you are actually just really bad at playing your own life. I don't know what it is but r incels, is where you should go imo to feel at home.



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22 Oct 2017, 9:47 pm

SilverBoltsisWmax wrote:
Rather than explain how the many points of your post showed you didn't read mine in fact in thinking I was speaking about you in certain parts I'll just post this.


This site has long strayed from it's intended purpose. A good number of posters here aren't even really "love-shy" but rather identify as something called "incel". This has become a derogatory term on much of the web because as you've pointed out, these people tend to blame women for their problems rather than try to improve themselves. They are mostly a lost cause and it's best to just ignore them, at least until they decide that they want to try and help themselves. Amidst the noise there are a few decent people here but with all the general unpleasantness of this place only a select few stick around long term. There have been some positives to this forum over the years but generally speaking it's a good example of "this is why we can't have nice things". Regardless this particular subforum isn't meant for this kind of discussion so I will lock this thread, but feel free to bring up the issue in the forums for registered members

And that's an administrator from the shy forums. Why would you even bother going to a cesspool like that. Whelp, we have reached the point where it's the end.

You either suffer from severe brain damage, or you are boosted as f**k.

Aka you are either mentally ill, challenged in some way that is causing you to reject everything despite asking for help. Or you are actually just really bad at playing your own life. I don't know what it is but r incels, is where you should go imo to feel at home. You want yes men advisora not real help.



:roll:

I am not incel and I would not feel at home on any of their forums. I don't post on the love-shy forum at all, I was just showing you the truth of the redpill nonsense you keep cheerleading like a performing clown for. Your post was clearly aimed at me since you quoted me and wrongfully assumed I was upholding a belief that God was in control of my life. Thank you once again for proving me right that you have terrible reading comprehension and are deluded.
I don't support the incel community. They think the Bible Belt is a love-shy/incel utopia. The ones from more liberal areas actually think if they move here, they'll get women to perform fellatio on command for them.

You'll be back since you are so wishy-washy.



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22 Oct 2017, 9:50 pm

Mark, man up. I'm tired of reading this beating yourself up nonsense. What you seem to be doing now is that you are giving yourself reasons to feel depressed and down to get attention.



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22 Oct 2017, 9:59 pm

I am protecting myself, not beating myself up. SilverBolt is resorting to personal attacks and has been reported.

Why do you look at my threads if you claim to be sick of them? You don't have to look at them.



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22 Oct 2017, 10:15 pm

It doesn't look like you are protecting yourself.



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22 Oct 2017, 10:19 pm

Read what he posted to me just one page back and look at my response. Oddly, he's claimed more than once he's sick of seeing my posts but yet he keeps coming back.