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I was texting with Ting Li and she said "In China, almost everyone has a bachelor degree, so a bachelor degree has no advantage when looking for a job. People study further to get better opportunities." That probably explains why her dad told her she has to get a master's degree. She's in the second year of her master's degree.
I suspect a master's degree is becoming the norm in China. A bachelor degree isn't good enough anymore. Yet I don't even have a bachelor degree!! God I'm far behind! If I went to China and they all had master's degrees and I told them I don't even have a bachelor degree they'd probably think I'm ret*d or maybe they'd just think I'm lazy.
This made me feel really depressed for the rest of the night. The thought I'm not only not good enough but not even close. I'm really kicking myself for not having gone to university like a normal person. It makes me substandard.
My education pales in comparison to hers. She told me about her schooling in China. She used to do 4 hours of homework per night as a 7 year old. By high school her school day was 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 12 hours at school. Then after she got home she would do homework for 6 hours before going to bed. That's an 18 hour day.
I've done 12 hour days and by the time I got home I was exhausted. I can't even imagine doing a 12 hour day and then studying for another 6 hours. She was sleeping 5 hours per night.
I couldn't handle half of that. I'm so much less than them. I'm so much weaker than the average Chinese person. I was doing normal Australian high school, which isn't nearly as hard yet got major burnout until I switched to part time high school. So my school was half as hard as hers and I had to halve it again.
She says in China they say for a happy family the husband should make three times more than the wife. She's studying finance. In Australia the average accountant's salary is $55,000 per year. She said she wants me to make three times that. That's $165,000 per year.
Most people don't make that much. The GPD per capita for China is about $8,000 so most Chinese people don't make that much yet I get the impression that most Chinese people think they can make that much is they just try harder. I think the Chinese are suffering from the temporally inconvenience millionaire syndrome. They all think they're going to be the next Elon Musk. One or two of the will be but the majority won't. The one or two who make it rich will probably take advantage of the Chinese work ethic.
They all think if they work hard enough they can make themselves rich. The truth is if they work hard enough they can make their boss rich.
Now I feel so conflicted. There's a part of me that wants to work harder, get promoted and live up to Ting Li's standard of the ideal man. Yet there's a part of me that feels like I would just be falling for the scam where I work harder to make someone else rich.
I mean, how did we get a culture in which it's bad to do something you enjoy yet it's virtuous to do something that gives you stress (in my case IT work). And the more hours you do it per day the better. 8 hours per day is merely adequate. 12 hours per day is better and 16 or more hours is the most virtuous.
Am I right or is it just my lazy side talking? There's a part of me that thinks 8 hour days aren't good enough and that I should study every night after work and there's a part of me that misses the days when I didn't have a job. Which part is correct?
I suspect a master's degree is becoming the norm in China. A bachelor degree isn't good enough anymore. Yet I don't even have a bachelor degree!! God I'm far behind! If I went to China and they all had master's degrees and I told them I don't even have a bachelor degree they'd probably think I'm ret*d or maybe they'd just think I'm lazy.
This made me feel really depressed for the rest of the night. The thought I'm not only not good enough but not even close. I'm really kicking myself for not having gone to university like a normal person. It makes me substandard.
My education pales in comparison to hers. She told me about her schooling in China. She used to do 4 hours of homework per night as a 7 year old. By high school her school day was 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 12 hours at school. Then after she got home she would do homework for 6 hours before going to bed. That's an 18 hour day.
I've done 12 hour days and by the time I got home I was exhausted. I can't even imagine doing a 12 hour day and then studying for another 6 hours. She was sleeping 5 hours per night.
I couldn't handle half of that. I'm so much less than them. I'm so much weaker than the average Chinese person. I was doing normal Australian high school, which isn't nearly as hard yet got major burnout until I switched to part time high school. So my school was half as hard as hers and I had to halve it again.
She says in China they say for a happy family the husband should make three times more than the wife. She's studying finance. In Australia the average accountant's salary is $55,000 per year. She said she wants me to make three times that. That's $165,000 per year.
Most people don't make that much. The GPD per capita for China is about $8,000 so most Chinese people don't make that much yet I get the impression that most Chinese people think they can make that much is they just try harder. I think the Chinese are suffering from the temporally inconvenience millionaire syndrome. They all think they're going to be the next Elon Musk. One or two of the will be but the majority won't. The one or two who make it rich will probably take advantage of the Chinese work ethic.
They all think if they work hard enough they can make themselves rich. The truth is if they work hard enough they can make their boss rich.
Now I feel so conflicted. There's a part of me that wants to work harder, get promoted and live up to Ting Li's standard of the ideal man. Yet there's a part of me that feels like I would just be falling for the scam where I work harder to make someone else rich.
I mean, how did we get a culture in which it's bad to do something you enjoy yet it's virtuous to do something that gives you stress (in my case IT work). And the more hours you do it per day the better. 8 hours per day is merely adequate. 12 hours per day is better and 16 or more hours is the most virtuous.
Am I right or is it just my lazy side talking? There's a part of me that thinks 8 hour days aren't good enough and that I should study every night after work and there's a part of me that misses the days when I didn't have a job. Which part is correct?
Honestly, ambition is nice, but having crazy expectations from men isn't.
This girlfriend, as a wife, would cause you a lot of headache and constant major blows to your self-esteem too, she will always make you feel like a loser your entire life unless you are a millionaire and 6 figures earner.
Husband must make three time the wife for her to be happy? Seriously? So if she gets promoted and her salary gets closer to her husband's then her man must run to get promoted asap otherwise she won't be happy?
Then it's better for her to be a housewife, she would guarantee the 3x expectation then - all the time.
Women like these are NOT wife materials.
Same here for Bachelor's degree, it's nothing, everyone has one.
The choice of the major is a more important factor.
We talked about it tonight and she says she doesn't care that I don't have a degree. Honestly a lot of the negativity about me not having a degree comes from inside my own head. I think it might be a sign of laziness.
And in a way I feel obligated to sacrifice for her since she agreed to go on a diet for me until she gets down to 45 kilos. I requested she do this because I want to have the stereotypical, skinny hot Asian girlfriend. If she's skinnier and hotter than my friends girlfriends I'll feel validated.
In previous years I always felt ashamed within my social circle as the guy with the fat girlfriend. Now I want to be the guy with the hot girlfriend.
Since she's gone on a very restrictive diet for me I now feel I should do something in return for her. Getting any girlfriend at all is hard enough for aspie guys but getting a hot girlfriend is extremely difficult for aspie guys so I should make it up to her.
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RetroGamer87 wrote:
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RetroGamer87 wrote:
I was texting with Ting Li and she said "In China, almost everyone has a bachelor degree, so a bachelor degree has no advantage when looking for a job. People study further to get better opportunities." That probably explains why her dad told her she has to get a master's degree. She's in the second year of her master's degree.
I suspect a master's degree is becoming the norm in China. A bachelor degree isn't good enough anymore. Yet I don't even have a bachelor degree!! God I'm far behind! If I went to China and they all had master's degrees and I told them I don't even have a bachelor degree they'd probably think I'm ret*d or maybe they'd just think I'm lazy.
This made me feel really depressed for the rest of the night. The thought I'm not only not good enough but not even close. I'm really kicking myself for not having gone to university like a normal person. It makes me substandard.
My education pales in comparison to hers. She told me about her schooling in China. She used to do 4 hours of homework per night as a 7 year old. By high school her school day was 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 12 hours at school. Then after she got home she would do homework for 6 hours before going to bed. That's an 18 hour day.
I've done 12 hour days and by the time I got home I was exhausted. I can't even imagine doing a 12 hour day and then studying for another 6 hours. She was sleeping 5 hours per night.
I couldn't handle half of that. I'm so much less than them. I'm so much weaker than the average Chinese person. I was doing normal Australian high school, which isn't nearly as hard yet got major burnout until I switched to part time high school. So my school was half as hard as hers and I had to halve it again.
She says in China they say for a happy family the husband should make three times more than the wife. She's studying finance. In Australia the average accountant's salary is $55,000 per year. She said she wants me to make three times that. That's $165,000 per year.
Most people don't make that much. The GPD per capita for China is about $8,000 so most Chinese people don't make that much yet I get the impression that most Chinese people think they can make that much is they just try harder. I think the Chinese are suffering from the temporally inconvenience millionaire syndrome. They all think they're going to be the next Elon Musk. One or two of the will be but the majority won't. The one or two who make it rich will probably take advantage of the Chinese work ethic.
They all think if they work hard enough they can make themselves rich. The truth is if they work hard enough they can make their boss rich.
Now I feel so conflicted. There's a part of me that wants to work harder, get promoted and live up to Ting Li's standard of the ideal man. Yet there's a part of me that feels like I would just be falling for the scam where I work harder to make someone else rich.
I mean, how did we get a culture in which it's bad to do something you enjoy yet it's virtuous to do something that gives you stress (in my case IT work). And the more hours you do it per day the better. 8 hours per day is merely adequate. 12 hours per day is better and 16 or more hours is the most virtuous.
Am I right or is it just my lazy side talking? There's a part of me that thinks 8 hour days aren't good enough and that I should study every night after work and there's a part of me that misses the days when I didn't have a job. Which part is correct?
I suspect a master's degree is becoming the norm in China. A bachelor degree isn't good enough anymore. Yet I don't even have a bachelor degree!! God I'm far behind! If I went to China and they all had master's degrees and I told them I don't even have a bachelor degree they'd probably think I'm ret*d or maybe they'd just think I'm lazy.
This made me feel really depressed for the rest of the night. The thought I'm not only not good enough but not even close. I'm really kicking myself for not having gone to university like a normal person. It makes me substandard.
My education pales in comparison to hers. She told me about her schooling in China. She used to do 4 hours of homework per night as a 7 year old. By high school her school day was 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM. 12 hours at school. Then after she got home she would do homework for 6 hours before going to bed. That's an 18 hour day.
I've done 12 hour days and by the time I got home I was exhausted. I can't even imagine doing a 12 hour day and then studying for another 6 hours. She was sleeping 5 hours per night.
I couldn't handle half of that. I'm so much less than them. I'm so much weaker than the average Chinese person. I was doing normal Australian high school, which isn't nearly as hard yet got major burnout until I switched to part time high school. So my school was half as hard as hers and I had to halve it again.
She says in China they say for a happy family the husband should make three times more than the wife. She's studying finance. In Australia the average accountant's salary is $55,000 per year. She said she wants me to make three times that. That's $165,000 per year.
Most people don't make that much. The GPD per capita for China is about $8,000 so most Chinese people don't make that much yet I get the impression that most Chinese people think they can make that much is they just try harder. I think the Chinese are suffering from the temporally inconvenience millionaire syndrome. They all think they're going to be the next Elon Musk. One or two of the will be but the majority won't. The one or two who make it rich will probably take advantage of the Chinese work ethic.
They all think if they work hard enough they can make themselves rich. The truth is if they work hard enough they can make their boss rich.
Now I feel so conflicted. There's a part of me that wants to work harder, get promoted and live up to Ting Li's standard of the ideal man. Yet there's a part of me that feels like I would just be falling for the scam where I work harder to make someone else rich.
I mean, how did we get a culture in which it's bad to do something you enjoy yet it's virtuous to do something that gives you stress (in my case IT work). And the more hours you do it per day the better. 8 hours per day is merely adequate. 12 hours per day is better and 16 or more hours is the most virtuous.
Am I right or is it just my lazy side talking? There's a part of me that thinks 8 hour days aren't good enough and that I should study every night after work and there's a part of me that misses the days when I didn't have a job. Which part is correct?
Honestly, ambition is nice, but having crazy expectations from men isn't.
This girlfriend, as a wife, would cause you a lot of headache and constant major blows to your self-esteem too, she will always make you feel like a loser your entire life unless you are a millionaire and 6 figures earner.
Husband must make three time the wife for her to be happy? Seriously? So if she gets promoted and her salary gets closer to her husband's then her man must run to get promoted asap otherwise she won't be happy?
Then it's better for her to be a housewife, she would guarantee the 3x expectation then - all the time.
Women like these are NOT wife materials.
Same here for Bachelor's degree, it's nothing, everyone has one.
The choice of the major is a more important factor.
We talked about it tonight and she says she doesn't care that I don't have a degree. Honestly a lot of the negativity about me not having a degree comes from inside my own head. I think it might be a sign of laziness.
And in a way I feel obligated to sacrifice for her since she agreed to go on a diet for me until she gets down to 45 kilos. I requested she do this because I want to have the stereotypical, skinny hot Asian girlfriend. If she's skinnier and hotter than my friends girlfriends I'll feel validated.
In previous years I always felt ashamed within my social circle as the guy with the fat girlfriend. Now I want to be the guy with the hot girlfriend.
Since she's gone on a very restrictive diet for me I now feel I should do something in return for her. Getting any girlfriend at all is hard enough for aspie guys but getting a hot girlfriend is extremely difficult for aspie guys so I should make it up to her.
I don't really know what to say. The negativety comes from her talking so damn much about education and money, if she didn't, you probably wouldn't give it as much thought.
It seems like you're both throwing subtle punches at eachother to be honest. I don't know if it's healthy as a foundation, to want to change eachother in the beginning stages of a relationship. I suspect not.
kraftiekortie wrote:
45 Kilos? That might be too thin for me.
My preference is for Jewish girls who are a little zaftig. I married one.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Check this out: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -students/
So that's how they are getting on the top ranks in STEM education.
The US has benefited substantially by its ability to attract and absorb élite immigrants. In the past we welcomed millions of Jewish immigrants who were treated as animals in Europe. Subsequent history has proven the wisdom of this policy.So that's how they are getting on the top ranks in STEM education.
My son owes a lot of his success to having attended high school with a lot of Asian immigrants and competed with them. I personally don't care if every student at MIT and Caltech is Asian.
sly279 wrote:
She must be desperate or low self-esteem to lose wieght so she can be your eye candy. I’m digusted you asked her to do that.
I kind of agree with sly.
I hope she’s a petite girl, that’s really the only time 45kgs is a healthy weight.
You sound like you have an ego problem retrogamer, and that’s not healthy.
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I don't really know what to say. The negativety comes from her talking so damn much about education and money, if she didn't, you probably wouldn't give it as much thought.
Actually I thought about it all the time for years before I met her
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hale_bopp wrote:
sly279 wrote:
She must be desperate or low self-esteem to lose wieght so she can be your eye candy. I’m digusted you asked her to do that.
I kind of agree with sly.
I hope she’s a petite girl, that’s really the only time 45kgs is a healthy weight.
You sound like you have an ego problem retrogamer, and that’s not healthy.
I probably do have an ego problem. I'm always worried about what people will think of me.
She is a petite girl. Her father wants her to get down to 40 kg but her and I agreed that would be too thin. She says in China, 40 kg is the normal goal weight for most women.
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